" Where do the extra 20 points come from? "

" Where does the extra 20 points come from? "

After a few years of shit managers its nice to believe in someone again, but this team is miles off getting those extra point required.

Our best two players today won't be here next season, one forced one unforced. Both want to play football, Warnock wants to go direct.
We have a raw striker who will blow hot and cold throughout the season. Our two wide players can't score and rarely assist.

Warnock dodged another bullet today, not replacing a lost looking Kadeem Harris was criminal. Halford for Whitts was predictable, but his faith in Harris is concerning, as if he is a starter next season we wont be in the top 6 mix. Holiett again missed a chance a player on his salary band should be burying.

This set up is designed for the front three to terrorise the opposition with very little defensive responsibilities. I am not sure what Pilkington was doing today, because as the second striker he again proved he is turning into a player without a natural position, he really needs to move to reignite his career.

I have renewed, i am a Cardiff Cit fan, but if Warnock lets Whitts go for sweet FA and he doesn't get us into the playoffs, this will be on his head. Our chances (and goal) came from our much maligned CM's without those two we were shit.

I hope he knows what he is doing.

You make some valid points but I personally believe Warnock knows exactly what hes doing.We will definetly be a better side next season,its hard to say if it will be enough to challenge as the league is so unpredictable.Just look at Huddersfield,Reading,Brighton etc. It will be a very unpredictable summer that's for sure

I work it out if you take per game rate of points since Warnock took over from Trollope then you already have 8 points. If Warnock was selected instead of Trollope we definitely would have had 8 extra points from when he replaced him.

So since taking over there are at least another 8 points we could had had if Warnock had his own players instead of what he inherited. I'm confident Warnock has seen the weaknesses he had to take on and will either get a better value for money from them next season or simplefind better replacements.

So that leaves us short by 4. Well lets hope thes 5/6 extra players will give us that.

Easy! Improve a slow and sluggish midfield by recruiting a dynamic creative force, continue to develop Joe Ralls as a top Championship midfielder and squeeze a few more goals like we saw today out of Gunnarsson. On top of that further develop Zohore into a 15 plus goal striker, improve upon the wing positions, improve upon at least one full back and solidify the defence with another Bambaesque signing. Finally, introduce a goal hungry rookie with bags of potential from the lower/Scottish leagues until Rhys Healey returns with a vengeance later in the season.

In Warnock we trust

On points per game we'd only be 5-6 outside they play offs under Warnock.

All this with no money and several players who either don't want to be here or aren't good enough.
4-5 clever signings and we should be challenging the play offs

Easy! Improve a slow and sluggish midfield by recruiting a dynamic creative force, continue to develop Joe Ralls as a top Championship midfielder and squeeze a few more goals like we saw today out of Gunnarsson. On top of that further develop Zohore into a 15 plus goal striker, improve upon the wing positions, improve upon at least one full back and solidify the defence with another Bambaesque signing. Finally, introduce a goal hungry rookie with bags of potential from the lower/Scottish leagues until Rhys Healey returns with a vengeance later in the season.

In Warnock we trust

Yeah easy peasy.
And make sure they're 'hungry

After a few years of shit managers its nice to believe in someone again, but this team is miles off getting those extra point required.

Our best two players today won't be here next season, one forced one unforced. Both want to play football, Warnock wants to go direct.
We have a raw striker who will blow hot and cold throughout the season. Our two wide players can't score and rarely assist.

Warnock dodged another bullet today, not replacing a lost looking Kadeem Harris was criminal. Halford for Whitts was predictable, but his faith in Harris is concerning, as if he is a starter next season we wont be in the top 6 mix. Holiett again missed a chance a player on his salary band should be burying.

This set up is designed for the front three to terrorise the opposition with very little defensive responsibilities. I am not sure what Pilkington was doing today, because as the second striker he again proved he is turning into a player without a natural position, he really needs to move to reignite his career.

I have renewed, i am a Cardiff Cit fan, but if Warnock lets Whitts go for sweet FA and he doesn't get us into the playoffs, this will be on his head. Our chances (and goal) came from our much maligned CM's without those two we were shit.

I hope he knows what he is doing.

I like Warnock but believe this is a great post

Having Warnock at the helm does not automatically mean we will be challenging at the top but it certainly helps. At the end of the day he is not a miracle worker, I can see us dramatically improving our league position but as far as autos go we can forget it for now. I think we will be a lot closer to the play off action this season, probably dip in and out. All depends on how much dead wood we get rid of and who we can bring in.

I work it out if you take per game rate of points since Warnock took over from Trollope then you already have 8 points. If Warnock was selected instead of Trollope we definitely would have had 8 extra points from when he replaced him.

So since taking over there are at least another 8 points we could had had if Warnock had his own players instead of what he inherited. I'm confident Warnock has seen the weaknesses he had to take on and will either get a better value for money from them next season or simplefind better replacements.

So that leaves us short by 4. Well lets hope thes 5/6 extra players will give us that.

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I think improving the squad will be quite difficult. Its a squad that finished 8th last season and probably would of this year if not for Trollope.

There are plenty of players named on here to move on. Problem will be bringing in better players.

Many have said to move Pilkington on who's spend the majority of his career at decent championship clubs.
Getting someone better in for around 1.5m who other clubs will be interested in and possibly offering better wages will be difficult.

I ve based the 1.5m on Warnock wanting 6 players for 6m hopefully 2 on frees, 1.5 is the minimum for a decent championship player.

Easy! Improve a slow and sluggish midfield by recruiting a dynamic creative force, continue to develop Joe Ralls as a top Championship midfielder and squeeze a few more goals like we saw today out of Gunnarsson. On top of that further develop Zohore into a 15 plus goal striker, improve upon the wing positions, improve upon at least one full back and solidify the defence with another Bambaesque signing. Finally, introduce a goal hungry rookie with bags of potential from the lower/Scottish leagues until Rhys Healey returns with a vengeance later in the season.

In Warnock we trust

Yeah easy peasy.
And make sure they're 'hungry

Have faith Paul, I can feel it in my water!

Chopra 500k
Jay. 150k
Super keV free
Roger j 150k
Loovens. Free
Scimeca 150k
Mcphail. 350k

It can be done

After a few years of shit managers its nice to believe in someone again, but this team is miles off getting those extra point required.

Our best two players today won't be here next season, one forced one unforced. Both want to play football, Warnock wants to go direct.
We have a raw striker who will blow hot and cold throughout the season. Our two wide players can't score and rarely assist.

Warnock dodged another bullet today, not replacing a lost looking Kadeem Harris was criminal. Halford for Whitts was predictable, but his faith in Harris is concerning, as if he is a starter next season we wont be in the top 6 mix. Holiett again missed a chance a player on his salary band should be burying.

This set up is designed for the front three to terrorise the opposition with very little defensive responsibilities. I am not sure what Pilkington was doing today, because as the second striker he again proved he is turning into a player without a natural position, he really needs to move to reignite his career.

I have renewed, i am a Cardiff Cit fan, but if Warnock lets Whitts go for sweet FA and he doesn't get us into the playoffs, this will be on his head. Our chances (and goal) came from our much maligned CM's without those two we were shit.

I hope he knows what he is doing.

I like Warnock but believe this is a great post

It is a great Opening Post and this kind of thing should be a sticky. That said I don't agree with it but that doesn't distract it is a fantastic talking point.

Chopra 500k
Jay. 150k
Super keV free
Roger j 150k
Loovens. Free
Scimeca 150k
Mcphail. 350k

It can be done

But they were in teams that didn't get promoted?

Chopra 500k
Jay. 150k
Super keV free
Roger j 150k
Loovens. Free
Scimeca 150k
Mcphail. 350k

It can be done

But they were in teams that didn't get promoted?

And 10 years ago players did not cost the sort of money that they cost today.

" Where does the extra 20 points come from? "

After a few years of shit managers its nice to believe in someone again, but this team is miles off getting those extra point required.

Our best two players today won't be here next season, one forced one unforced. Both want to play football, Warnock wants to go direct.
We have a raw striker who will blow hot and cold throughout the season. Our two wide players can't score and rarely assist.

Warnock dodged another bullet today, not replacing a lost looking Kadeem Harris was criminal. Halford for Whitts was predictable, but his faith in Harris is concerning, as if he is a starter next season we wont be in the top 6 mix. Holiett again missed a chance a player on his salary band should be burying.

This set up is designed for the front three to terrorise the opposition with very little defensive responsibilities. I am not sure what Pilkington was doing today, because as the second striker he again proved he is turning into a player without a natural position, he really needs to move to reignite his career.

I have renewed, i am a Cardiff Cit fan, but if Warnock lets Whitts go for sweet FA and he doesn't get us into the playoffs, this will be on his head. Our chances (and goal) came from our much maligned CM's without those two we were shit.

I hope he knows what he is doing.

Good post but disagree on Whits and Harris.I think that Warnock is intent on moving on some of the fans favourites and today you could see why.Not enough players who produce week-in week-out without fail.It looks like Harris's head has been turned and Whits is done as a regular now.I would say that NW has set himself up for a massive fall if his team doesn't produce fairly quickly next season but in order for him to be judged fairly he must be able to bring in who he wants and if that means a clerout of some well established players then so be it.

" Where does the extra 20 points come from? "

After a few years of shit managers its nice to believe in someone again, but this team is miles off getting those extra point required.

Our best two players today won't be here next season, one forced one unforced. Both want to play football, Warnock wants to go direct.
We have a raw striker who will blow hot and cold throughout the season. Our two wide players can't score and rarely assist.

Warnock dodged another bullet today, not replacing a lost looking Kadeem Harris was criminal. Halford for Whitts was predictable, but his faith in Harris is concerning, as if he is a starter next season we wont be in the top 6 mix. Holiett again missed a chance a player on his salary band should be burying.

This set up is designed for the front three to terrorise the opposition with very little defensive responsibilities. I am not sure what Pilkington was doing today, because as the second striker he again proved he is turning into a player without a natural position, he really needs to move to reignite his career.

I have renewed, i am a Cardiff Cit fan, but if Warnock lets Whitts go for sweet FA and he doesn't get us into the playoffs, this will be on his head. Our chances (and goal) came from our much maligned CM's without those two we were shit.

I hope he knows what he is doing.

I believe NW knows exactly what he is doing, 50 points from 32 games is ample proof of that, and as NW has put it himself during an interview with Blackburn last summer "Any guy can manage your team for 30 games but, it's what happens with those other 16 matches that matters".

If NW had been in charge from the start of this season we would be right in the mix for the last playoff position, that given the shortfalls in the squad he inherited if absolutely remarkable.

Given a choice I really believe that he would want Manga and Whitts with us next season but in at least one case, Manga, it's out of his hands. As regards Whitts there is still a chance and much will depend on the money he can free up by moving other players on, Lambert, Pilkington, Noone and Huws are ALL on decent contracts and moving a couple or ALL of them would give him room to offer Whitts a decent contract.

Yesterday Whitts, in my opinion, was the best footballer on the pitch and if you bear in mind before NW arrived he hadn't scored a goal then the 7 from the 24 games under NW puts him on a level with his time when DJ was manager. With better players around him and more importantly ahead of him Whitts still has loads of offer this club. Young, Hungry headless chickens will get you so far but when the pressure is on experience and quality WILL make a massive difference.

I'm really looking forward to next season and I just hope the club keeps to the promise it has given NW regarding the money to sign new players.

And I hope Whitts is still with us to enjoy the ride.

I believe NW knows exactly what he is doing, 50 points from 32 games is ample proof of that, and as NW has put it himself during an interview with Blackburn last summer "Any guy can manage your team for 30 games but, it's what happens with those other 16 matches that matters".

If NW had been in charge from the start of this season we would be right in the mix for the last playoff position, that given the shortfalls in the squad he inherited if absolutely remarkable.

Given a choice I really believe that he would want Manga and Whitts with us next season but in at least one case, Manga, it's out of his hands. As regards Whitts there is still a chance and much will depend on the money he can free up by moving other players on, Lambert, Pilkington, Noone and Huws are ALL on decent contracts and moving a couple or ALL of them would give him room to offer Whitts a decent contract.

Yesterday Whitts, in my opinion, was the best footballer on the pitch and if you bear in mind before NW arrived he hadn't scored a goal then the 7 from the 24 games under NW puts him on a level with his time when DJ was manager. With better players around him and more importantly ahead of him Whitts still has loads of offer this club. Young, Hungry headless chickens will get you so far but when the pressure is on experience and quality WILL make a massive difference.

I'm really looking forward to next season and I just hope the club keeps to the promise it has given NW regarding the money to sign new players.

And I hope Whitts is still with us to enjoy the ride.

Great to see you back to your best, fantastic stuff

It's a challenge indeed - 20 does seem an awful lot but we have come a long way in a short period.

1) Our transformation has been remarkable since Warnock arrived, and not just on the pitch. Whilst the stadium still feels pretty empty it is generally a happy place to be on match day. The mood is far better, and that will hopefully encourage people back. This is crucial in terms of genuine, supportive atmosphere and revenue.

2) We are still lacking pace and that extra bit of squad quality that gives us the cutting edge to break into the top six. We need a Graham Kavanagh type player who is both a general and a threat himself. This is likely to be expensive.

3) Overall, Cardiff City needs a deliberate club strategy that injects positivity into every corner of the club and its people - encouraging an ethos that isn't satisfied with anything other than a genuine promotion challenge. If they pretend at this or just fail to get it via investment (or disinterest) the club could be damaged further, because we are still suffering from the effects of the re-brand.

I'm really looking forward to next year.

It's a challenge indeed - 20 does seem an awful lot but we have come a long way in a short period.

1) Our transformation has been remarkable since Warnock arrived, and not just on the pitch. Whilst the stadium still feels pretty empty it is generally a happy place to be on match day. The mood is far better, and that will hopefully encourage people back. This is crucial in terms of genuine, supportive atmosphere and revenue.

2) We are still lacking pace and that extra bit of squad quality that gives us the cutting edge to break into the top six. We need a Graham Kavanagh type player who is both a general and a threat himself. This is likely to be expensive.

3) Overall, Cardiff City needs a deliberate club strategy that injects positivity into every corner of the club and its people - encouraging an ethos that isn't satisfied with anything other than a genuine promotion challenge. If they pretend at this or just fail to get it via investment (or disinterest) the club could be damaged further, because we are still suffering from the effects of the re-brand.

I'm really looking forward to next year.

needs people to stop going on and on and on and on about still suffering from the rebrand tbh.