Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:52 am
Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:40 am
Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:51 am
Sven wrote:I think the majority of Neil Warnock's mind has been made up for some time and only one or two will be genuinely fighting for their City futures...
The conundrum will be what to do about Ricky Lambert. He's been an absolute waste of money in footballing terms but I blame City' and maybe Paul Trollope's due diligence for that. The club may cut him loose with a pay-off but iIf he stays (and I think a fit and contracted Ricky Lambert could still do a job) then he must start earning his corn in earnest
An interesting summer ahead and (for once) it looks like we'll be at he front of the shopping queue rather than waiting for the (not so) bargain September sales!![]()
Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:57 am
Sven wrote:I think the majority of Neil Warnock's mind has been made up for some time and only one or two will be genuinely fighting for their City futures...
The conundrum will be what to do about Ricky Lambert. He's been an absolute waste of money in footballing terms but I blame City' and maybe Paul Trollope's due diligence for that. The club may cut him loose with a pay-off but iIf he stays (and I think a fit and contracted Ricky Lambert could still do a job) then he must start earning his corn in earnest
An interesting summer ahead and (for once) it looks like we'll be at he front of the shopping queue rather than waiting for the (not so) bargain September sales!![]()
Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:01 am
Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:29 am
City Slicker wrote:My take on Warnock's comments is that he has made his mind up that (apart from Mark Harris and goalkeeper) his bench is pretty poor and I agree. He believes he needs to take out 3 or 4 players from the first 11 and put them on the bench to give us options going forward. Those 3 or 4 will be replaced by better quality signing in the summer. Overall a sensible and exciting strategy I think.
Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:37 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:City Slicker wrote:My take on Warnock's comments is that he has made his mind up that (apart from Mark Harris and goalkeeper) his bench is pretty poor and I agree. He believes he needs to take out 3 or 4 players from the first 11 and put them on the bench to give us options going forward. Those 3 or 4 will be replaced by better quality signing in the summer. Overall a sensible and exciting strategy I think.
Interesting.
The players I'd get rid of who are currently in squad would be Nooone, Pilkimgton, Connolly, Whitts Add Manga (as he's leaving)
Of the Ines left, I'd look to improve in the following players' positions ( in other words, I'd bench the following players) - Morrison, Bennett, Ralls, Harris.
Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:56 am
Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:27 pm
Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:46 pm
llan bluebird wrote:The lack of goals from the front 3 is a real concern.
I have seen little evidence that the move away from a set play biased team will bear more fruits than the current system.
The problem with Whitts is he is so one dimensional (and i am a true believer) and if we play him we have to be a pass based team, but that totally exposes Gunnars lack of technique and to a lesser extent Ralls, which is why i believe they both play better without Whitts.
We know Warnock doesn't like tossing around with the ball in the our third or even the middle third, so that ginger kid form Brentford is also out the reckoning.
I have my doubts of Gunnarson. If we received a decent offer i could see him moving on. He is not enough as a stopper and a few goals have come from his defensive lapses or marking because he just isn't tall enough. So if he is not a stopper he needs to be a playmaker or a presser and Ralls is better at those thing than him.
We need goals and they cost money. Two fast direct wide forwards and another striker plus a real centre midfielder will burn his £6 million so we'll need to sell as well.
I can see Saadi, Pilkington,Noone,John,O'Keefe,Kennedy,Huws being sold.
Manga,Harris, Whitts (hopefully stays in some capacity)Amos,McGreggor not retained. I think Holiett may want too much so he may go
Lambert retired due to ongoing injuries (get the insurance lawyers going), Fred paid off.
Thats a huge blank canvas for Warnock. He did a similar thing at QPR. But in Tareet & Faurlin (spelling for both) he had two players well above championship level. Where do they come from ?
Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:49 pm
City Slicker wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:City Slicker wrote:My take on Warnock's comments is that he has made his mind up that (apart from Mark Harris and goalkeeper) his bench is pretty poor and I agree. He believes he needs to take out 3 or 4 players from the first 11 and put them on the bench to give us options going forward. Those 3 or 4 will be replaced by better quality signing in the summer. Overall a sensible and exciting strategy I think.
Interesting.
The players I'd get rid of who are currently in squad would be Nooone, Pilkimgton, Connolly, Whitts Add Manga (as he's leaving)
Of the Ines left, I'd look to improve in the following players' positions ( in other words, I'd bench the following players) - Morrison, Bennett, Ralls, Harris.
Overall I tend to agree except for Ralls. He seems to be improving game by game, especially when Whittingham isn't playing. Given his youth I think he could be an integral part of Warnock's plans next season but of course it depends upon what calibre of player can be recruited to replace him. If we can get better then I see him on the bench.
Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:15 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:City Slicker wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:City Slicker wrote:My take on Warnock's comments is that he has made his mind up that (apart from Mark Harris and goalkeeper) his bench is pretty poor and I agree. He believes he needs to take out 3 or 4 players from the first 11 and put them on the bench to give us options going forward. Those 3 or 4 will be replaced by better quality signing in the summer. Overall a sensible and exciting strategy I think.
Interesting.
The players I'd get rid of who are currently in squad would be Nooone, Pilkimgton, Connolly, Whitts Add Manga (as he's leaving)
Of the Ines left, I'd look to improve in the following players' positions ( in other words, I'd bench the following players) - Morrison, Bennett, Ralls, Harris.
Overall I tend to agree except for Ralls. He seems to be improving game by game, especially when Whittingham isn't playing. Given his youth I think he could be an integral part of Warnock's plans next season but of course it depends upon what calibre of player can be recruited to replace him. If we can get better then I see him on the bench.
I would also stick with Ralls as I can only see him improving with more game time. That said he does tend to have a mid-season blip, maybe due to tiredness, so NW would need to rest him at some point.
Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:19 am
Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:00 am
Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:38 pm
Pulisnewport wrote:Imo NW will make 5-6m on sales on top of the so called 5-6 he'd like to spend with the sales of Noonie, Pilks, John, Huws, Saadi etc.
The 5-6 youngsters on contracts should go out on loan to league 1 sides so that they get the game time they need.
Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:59 pm
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:15 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:On another note.. 5/6 millions eh? Sure, it could be done.. IF he had a better scouting range.. Spain, middle/Eastern Europe, South America etc. But he don't.
I assume those 4 quality players include the need for s quality keeper!? Another striker!? If he looses whittingham, surely he needs someone who can pass s ball and and strike a set price!? If manga goes, I think we are covered- but need a cheap 4'th option. If he wants to rid Noone and Pilkington, surely he needs another winger or two.. IMO Warnock lives In coucoo land thinking he is in anyway ready for promotion. And if he by some miracle should get it, he needs to build another squad. Becourse he ain't got one ready or able to step it up. Just like Malky.
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:19 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:On another note.. 5/6 millions eh? Sure, it could be done.. IF he had a better scouting range.. Spain, middle/Eastern Europe, South America etc. But he don't.
I assume those 4 quality players include the need for s quality keeper!? Another striker!? If he looses whittingham, surely he needs someone who can pass s ball and and strike a set price!? If manga goes, I think we are covered- but need a cheap 4'th option. If he wants to rid Noone and Pilkington, surely he needs another winger or two.. IMO Warnock lives In coucoo land thinking he is in anyway ready for promotion. And if he by some miracle should get it, he needs to build another squad. Becourse he ain't got one ready or able to step it up. Just like Malky.
Thanks for your thoughts Ole!
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:24 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:On another note.. 5/6 millions eh? Sure, it could be done.. IF he had a better scouting range.. Spain, middle/Eastern Europe, South America etc. But he don't.
I assume those 4 quality players include the need for s quality keeper!? Another striker!? If he looses whittingham, surely he needs someone who can pass s ball and and strike a set price!? If manga goes, I think we are covered- but need a cheap 4'th option. If he wants to rid Noone and Pilkington, surely he needs another winger or two.. IMO Warnock lives In coucoo land thinking he is in anyway ready for promotion. And if he by some miracle should get it, he needs to build another squad. Becourse he ain't got one ready or able to step it up. Just like Malky.
Thanks for your thoughts Ole!
Sure. No sense there Mr fellow fantasy island.. Wonder if he walks on water?
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:28 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:On another note.. 5/6 millions eh? Sure, it could be done.. IF he had a better scouting range.. Spain, middle/Eastern Europe, South America etc. But he don't.
I assume those 4 quality players include the need for s quality keeper!? Another striker!? If he looses whittingham, surely he needs someone who can pass s ball and and strike a set price!? If manga goes, I think we are covered- but need a cheap 4'th option. If he wants to rid Noone and Pilkington, surely he needs another winger or two.. IMO Warnock lives In coucoo land thinking he is in anyway ready for promotion. And if he by some miracle should get it, he needs to build another squad. Becourse he ain't got one ready or able to step it up. Just like Malky.
Thanks for your thoughts Ole!
Sure. No sense there Mr fellow fantasy island.. Wonder if he walks on water?
Well you certainly didnt.
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:34 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:On another note.. 5/6 millions eh? Sure, it could be done.. IF he had a better scouting range.. Spain, middle/Eastern Europe, South America etc. But he don't.
I assume those 4 quality players include the need for s quality keeper!? Another striker!? If he looses whittingham, surely he needs someone who can pass s ball and and strike a set price!? If manga goes, I think we are covered- but need a cheap 4'th option. If he wants to rid Noone and Pilkington, surely he needs another winger or two.. IMO Warnock lives In coucoo land thinking he is in anyway ready for promotion. And if he by some miracle should get it, he needs to build another squad. Becourse he ain't got one ready or able to step it up. Just like Malky.
Thanks for your thoughts Ole!
Sure. No sense there Mr fellow fantasy island.. Wonder if he walks on water?
Well you certainly didnt.
Didn't? You either do, or you don't.. Life is a continuum, and it is for mr Warnock as well.. past tense interests no one IRL..
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:39 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:On another note.. 5/6 millions eh? Sure, it could be done.. IF he had a better scouting range.. Spain, middle/Eastern Europe, South America etc. But he don't.
I assume those 4 quality players include the need for s quality keeper!? Another striker!? If he looses whittingham, surely he needs someone who can pass s ball and and strike a set price!? If manga goes, I think we are covered- but need a cheap 4'th option. If he wants to rid Noone and Pilkington, surely he needs another winger or two.. IMO Warnock lives In coucoo land thinking he is in anyway ready for promotion. And if he by some miracle should get it, he needs to build another squad. Becourse he ain't got one ready or able to step it up. Just like Malky.
Thanks for your thoughts Ole!
Sure. No sense there Mr fellow fantasy island.. Wonder if he walks on water?
Well you certainly didnt.
Didn't? You either do, or you don't.. Life is a continuum, and it is for mr Warnock as well.. past tense interests no one IRL..
Yes,,,Ok,,,whatever, Roathy.
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:49 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:On another note.. 5/6 millions eh? Sure, it could be done.. IF he had a better scouting range.. Spain, middle/Eastern Europe, South America etc. But he don't.
I assume those 4 quality players include the need for s quality keeper!? Another striker!? If he looses whittingham, surely he needs someone who can pass s ball and and strike a set price!? If manga goes, I think we are covered- but need a cheap 4'th option. If he wants to rid Noone and Pilkington, surely he needs another winger or two.. IMO Warnock lives In coucoo land thinking he is in anyway ready for promotion. And if he by some miracle should get it, he needs to build another squad. Becourse he ain't got one ready or able to step it up. Just like Malky.
Thanks for your thoughts Ole!
Sure. No sense there Mr fellow fantasy island.. Wonder if he walks on water?
Well you certainly didnt.
Didn't? You either do, or you don't.. Life is a continuum, and it is for mr Warnock as well.. past tense interests no one IRL..
Yes,,,Ok,,,whatever, Roathy.
I'm sure there is a point in there somewhere Ricky.. Keep
Working on it, and you will get there
I thought I recognised your laughing gnome avatar,,,,,,easy really.
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:51 pm