Average away support - surprising statistic

I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.


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Not including Sheff Wed away City took 280 fans and Wigan/Huddersfield away to come

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I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.

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There was a good thread about this the other day. Bluemellons put up the figures which showed that we actually took slightly more away than other sides brought to CCS.

As you correctly point out we are hampered because we don't have the number of local derbies like they do in London, the Midlands or the North.

I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.

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There was a good thread about this the other day. Bluemellons put up the figures which showed that we actually took slightly more away than other sides brought to CCS.

As you correctly point out we are hampered because we don't have the number of local derbies like they do in London, the Midlands or the North.

This is a logical way to look at it but people just look at stats not any other thing that effects the numbers like ammount of derbys that boost support!




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1,126 Sheff Wed brought to Cardiff on a Tuesday night this season.
280 Cardiff took to Sheff Wed on a Saturday 3pm

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I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.

There was a good thread about this the other day. Bluemellons put up the figures which showed that we actually took slightly more away than other sides brought to CCS.

As you correctly point out we are hampered because we don't have the number of local derbies like they do in London, the Midlands or the North.

This is a logical way to look at it but people just look at stats not any other thing that effects the numbers like ammount of derbys that boost support!

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1,126 Sheff Wed brought to Cardiff on a Tuesday night this season.
280 Cardiff took to Sheff Wed on a Saturday 3pm

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Like the famous Brighton/Reading London Derby is it Al?

I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.

There was a good thread about this the other day. Bluemellons put up the figures which showed that we actually took slightly more away than other sides brought to CCS.

As you correctly point out we are hampered because we don't have the number of local derbies like they do in London, the Midlands or the North.

This is a logical way to look at it but people just look at stats not any other thing that effects the numbers like ammount of oderbys that boost support![/quot


Like the famous Brighton/Reading London Derby is it Al?

if wit was shit you would be constipated ffs

I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.

There was a good thread about this the other day. Bluemellons put up the figures which showed that we actually took slightly more away than other sides brought to CCS.

As you correctly point out we are hampered because we don't have the number of local derbies like they do in London, the Midlands or the North.

This is a logical way to look at it but people just look at stats not any other thing that effects the numbers like ammount of derbys that boost support!




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1,126 Sheff Wed brought to Cardiff on a Tuesday night this season.
280 Cardiff took to Sheff Wed on a Saturday 3pm

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You talk some bolloxes, funny though


Ipswich at City 750 fans, us at Ipswich 229 fans

Derby at City 520 fans , us at Derby 308 fans

Norwich at City 1,108 , us at Norwich 302 fans

It IS a fairer comparison and it has to be remembered that a lot of away fans are exiles who only see their side 1-2 times a year.
The membership scheme at City will put people off.

A few years back we took more away than people did to us by something like a ratio of 21-2 or 20-3

Given our poor season then to even have it 50/50 now isn't bad.

Too much negativity about this. It's hardly encouraging people to go away when we are always being told how crap our support is.

It IS a fairer comparison and it has to be remembered that a lot of away fans are exiles who only see their side 1-2 times a year.
The membership scheme at City will put people off.

A few years back we took more away than people did to us by something like a ratio of 21-2 or 20-3

Given our poor season then to even have it 50/50 now isn't bad.

Too much negativity about this. It's hardly encouraging people to go away when we are always being told how crap our support is.

The decline in away support is a legitimate reason for debate but I agree there is too much negativity about the issue. Unfortunately everything that goes wrong at CCFC is linked by some to the rebrand no matter how tenuous that link is. Whilst I understand that the rebrand was an awful idea those who implemented it have admitted their mistake and righted the wrong. To continue to vilify them is totally counter productive and has held us back ever since relegation in 2014.

Another way to look at this ...

Preston took 6000 to Blackburn. If we took 6,000 to Blackburn our away support average would increase by 300 for one match alone. I think it's realistic that if we were located in Nottingham, our away support average would be nearer 1,500.

Whilst our away support is not great, in comparison to the distances we have to travel, it's not too bad.

I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.

There was a good thread about this the other day. Bluemellons put up the figures which showed that we actually took slightly more away than other sides brought to CCS.

As you correctly point out we are hampered because we don't have the number of local derbies like they do in London, the Midlands or the North.

This is a logical way to look at it but people just look at stats not any other thing that effects the numbers like ammount of derbys that boost support!




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1,126 Sheff Wed brought to Cardiff on a Tuesday night this season.
280 Cardiff took to Sheff Wed on a Saturday 3pm

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You talk some bolloxes, funny though


Ipswich at City 750 fans, us at Ipswich 229 fans

Derby at City 520 fans , us at Derby 308 fans

Norwich at City 1,108 , us at Norwich 302 fans

Cardiff at Reading approx. 2,200, Reading at Cardiff 900

Cardiff at QPR 2,000, QPR at Cardiff 700

I am not trying to defend our support which has been poor by our standards. But other sides support is nowhere near as good as the average makes it out to be as the average is massively inflated by derby games. Of the 19 teams that we have already played home and away this season I believe in as many as 11 instances we have taken more away to them than they have brought down here. Hardly makes us one of the worst away supported sides in the League which the misleading average table indicates.

There was a good thread about this the other day. Bluemellons put up the figures which showed that we actually took slightly more away than other sides brought to CCS.

As you correctly point out we are hampered because we don't have the number of local derbies like they do in London, the Midlands or the North.

This is a logical way to look at it but people just look at stats not any other thing that effects the numbers like ammount of derbys that boost support!




viewtopic.php?f=2&t=183761

1,126 Sheff Wed brought to Cardiff on a Tuesday night this season.
280 Cardiff took to Sheff Wed on a Saturday 3pm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=183761

You talk some bolloxes, funny though


Ipswich at City 750 fans, us at Ipswich 229 fans

Derby at City 520 fans , us at Derby 308 fans

Norwich at City 1,108 , us at Norwich 302 fans

Cardiff at Reading approx. 2,200, Reading at Cardiff 900

Cardiff at QPR 2,000, QPR at Cardiff 700

Given the circumstances I think our 300 to Derby was no worse than their 500 to us.
We'd played Leeds away 3 days before, with nothing on either game.

Another way to look at this ...

Preston took 6000 to Blackburn. If we took 6,000 to Blackburn our away support average would increase by 300 for one match alone. I think it's realistic that if we were located in Nottingham, our away support average would be nearer 1,500.

Whilst our away support is not great, in comparison to the distances we have to travel, it's not too bad.

Too sensible that joff off with your head

There has been some good news for the last 3 yrs, 95% of City's away games have been pay on the gate and No memberships required and No restrictions

It all helps

Another way to look at this ...

Preston took 6000 to Blackburn. If we took 6,000 to Blackburn our away support average would increase by 300 for one match alone. I think it's realistic that if we were located in Nottingham, our away support average would be nearer 1,500.

Whilst our away support is not great, in comparison to the distances we have to travel, it's not too bad.

A good point you've brought up there Joff, but first we need to sell what we're given before we can even dream of asking for more tickets.

We have not sold out once for an away game for a few yrs from Bristol City,Bristol Rovers, Reading,QPR, Villa, Brum, Wolves, Burton our first ever visit there.
Also other clubs matches have their matches on tv and early kickoffs and evening kickoffs, some on here thinks it's just our matches.

So let's address this first before we can even think of wanting more tickets.

And by the way little Preston took 4,000 fans to Fulham this season, we took 1,082, with an allocation of 4,000.

Another way to look at this ...

Preston took 6000 to Blackburn. If we took 6,000 to Blackburn our away support average would increase by 300 for one match alone. I think it's realistic that if we were located in Nottingham, our away support average would be nearer 1,500.

Whilst our away support is not great, in comparison to the distances we have to travel, it's not too bad.

A good point you've brought up there Joff, but first we need to sell what we're given before we can even dream of asking for more tickets.

We have not sold out once for an away game for a few yrs from Bristol City,Bristol Rovers, Reading,QPR, Villa, Brum, Wolves, Burton our first ever visit there.
Also other clubs matches have their matches on tv and early kickoffs and evening kickoffs, some on here thinks it's just our matches.

So let's address this first before we can even think of wanting more tickets.

And by the way little Preston took 4,000 fans to Fulham this season, we took 1,082, with an allocation of 4,000.

Preston took 6,000 to one game so that increases their away average to 300 even if they didn't take any fans away again all season.

These northern teams probably take a minimum of 1,000 to teams within 90 minutes travelling time.

If we had teams in our division like Barry Town, Merthyr, Neath,Bristol, Newport Swansea, Hereford then I'm sure we would take a minimum of 2,000 to the majority of these fixtures.

The teams I have mentioned above reflect the distances many Championship clubs have to travel to away games. Unfortunately our nearest team is Bristol 1(1 hour from the valleys) followed by Birmingham which is close to 2 hours 15.

Clearly by location alone, we are always going to be one of the lowest supported clubs, and this is reflected on the numbers who travel here.

For reference, Fulham v Preston was a fancy dress day for Lillywhite fans and was classed as a big fixture for them.The fixture was the annual "Gentry Day"

Another way to look at this ...

Preston took 6000 to Blackburn. If we took 6,000 to Blackburn our away support average would increase by 300 for one match alone. I think it's realistic that if we were located in Nottingham, our away support average would be nearer 1,500.

Whilst our away support is not great, in comparison to the distances we have to travel, it's not too bad.

A good point you've brought up there Joff, but first we need to sell what we're given before we can even dream of asking for more tickets.

We have not sold out once for an away game for a few yrs from Bristol City,Bristol Rovers, Reading,QPR, Villa, Brum, Wolves, Burton our first ever visit there.
Also other clubs matches have their matches on tv and early kickoffs and evening kickoffs, some on here thinks it's just our matches.

So let's address this first before we can even think of wanting more tickets.

And by the way little Preston took 4,000 fans to Fulham this season, we took 1,082, with an allocation of 4,000.

Preston took 6,000 to one game so that increases their away average to 300 even if they didn't take any fans away again all season.

These northern teams probably take a minimum of 1,000 to teams within 90 minutes travelling time.

If we had teams in our division like Barry Town, Merthyr, Neath,Bristol, Newport Swansea, Hereford then I'm sure we would take a minimum of 2,000 to the majority of these fixtures.

The teams I have mentioned above reflect the distances many Championship clubs have to travel to away games. Unfortunately our nearest team is Bristol 1(1 hour from the valleys) followed by Birmingham which is close to 2 hours 15.

Clearly by location alone, we are always going to be one of the lowest supported clubs, and this is reflected on the numbers who travel here.

For reference, Fulham v Preston was a fancy dress day for Lillywhite fans and was classed as a big fixture for them.The fixture was the annual "Gentry Day"

Ok Joff so if it's fancy dress for us at Fulham which is only 150 miles away for us, will we take 4,000

Please an honest answer if Bristol City gave us 6,000 tickets would we sell them all?

And a straight question is our current Away support good?


Bristol City is 35mins from Newport and many Cardiff areas where Cardiff fans live.

The excuses just get better


Pompey have nearly 5,000 fans going to Notts County, 500 Mile RD trip.




Another question have you gone away much over the last few years?




Also how come Carlisle,Plymouth,Grimsby,Bristol Rovers,Doncaster, Pompey etc etc take more than us away?

Do they all wear fancy dress as well