' INCREASE AWAY SUPPORT '

Why dont the club introduce an away supporter Season Ticket in conjunction with the Supporters Club and away travel members.

£10 per away trip plus no more than £20 per match ticket. To be eligible you must pay for at least 10 away games Do you think this would work and boost numbers .

Why dont the club introduce an away supporter Season Ticket in conjunction with the Supporters Club and away travel members.

£10 per away trip plus no more than £20 per match ticket. To be eligible you must pay for at least 10 away games Do you think this would work and boost numbers .

£10 wouldn't get you over the seven bridge although some sort of scheme would probably be a good idea . That said aren't there several different coach organisers apart from the Supporters Club who would need to be included?

I guess the problem is that the club don't decide the price of away tickets.

Great in Theory but not sure how practical it would be.

Why dont the club introduce an away supporter Season Ticket in conjunction with the Supporters Club and away travel members.

£10 per away trip plus no more than £20 per match ticket. To be eligible you must pay for at least 10 away games Do you think this would work and boost numbers .

£10 wouldn't get you over the seven bridge although some sort of scheme would probably be a good idea . That said aren't there several different coach organisers apart from the Supporters Club who would need to be included?

Yes "Travel Members" are coach operators not connected with the supporters club - not sure of the exact terminology ... £10 would suffice if the coach was full and any shortfall could be raised via additional schemes such as an away supporters lottery an on board raffle ticket etc. The club could surely assist financially in a small way?

whats needed is a set ticket price for away fans like the prem have..OR scrap the agreement/rule in place now and allow clubs to charge away fans what their own fans get charged when visiting that club.

when the club has decided in the past to subsidise transport its always been on official transport, same applied when skybet did free transport to the re arranged game at Brighton for those that travelled to the called off game . problem with this is we have good loyal fans that travel but not from South Wales. and fans that just dont want to travel on coaches who then miss out.

Unfortunately the club does nothing to encourage away fans to follow the club.

They appear to be more willing to make things better for away fans of other clubs travelling to Cardiff than they are willing to do anything for their own fans following the club to away games.

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

I think you will find most supporters contribute greatly both financially and in time to assist the club. All I am suggesting is ways to increase our away support. Financially, unless it's a Cup game, the level of away support has no bearing on Cardiff City's Statement of Financial Position. That said, a large away support will probably gain about 10 extra points a season.

Our away support has dropped off a cliff, and any ideas , whilst unlikely to happen , can only be a good thing .

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

I think you will find most supporters contribute greatly both financially and in time to assist the club. All I am suggesting is ways to increase our away support. Financially, unless it's a Cup game, the level of away support has no bearing on Cardiff City's Statement of Financial Position. That said, a large away support will probably gain about 10 extra points a season.

Our away support has dropped off a cliff, and any ideas , whilst unlikely to happen , can only be a good thing .

how does the club paying for coaches not effect finance?
btw our best away suport in my 50 years was the year in the prem. still didnt sell out everywhere . averaged about 2k
didnt fill grounds the year we went up or any of the DJ years. what cliff?

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

I think you will find most supporters contribute greatly both financially and in time to assist the club. All I am suggesting is ways to increase our away support. Financially, unless it's a Cup game, the level of away support has no bearing on Cardiff City's Statement of Financial Position. That said, a large away support will probably gain about 10 extra points a season.

Our away support has dropped off a cliff, and any ideas , whilst unlikely to happen , can only be a good thing .

how does the club paying for coaches not effect finance?
btw our best away suport in my 50 years was the year in the prem. still didnt sell out everywhere . averaged about 2k
didnt fill grounds the year we went up or any of the DJ years. what cliff?[/quote

How much do you think it would cost the club ?

The cost would be offset against valuable points gained on the road.

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

I think you will find most supporters contribute greatly both financially and in time to assist the club. All I am suggesting is ways to increase our away support. Financially, unless it's a Cup game, the level of away support has no bearing on Cardiff City's Statement of Financial Position. That said, a large away support will probably gain about 10 extra points a season.

Our away support has dropped off a cliff, and any ideas , whilst unlikely to happen , can only be a good thing .

how does the club paying for coaches not effect finance?
btw our best away suport in my 50 years was the year in the prem. still didnt sell out everywhere . averaged about 2k
didnt fill grounds the year we went up or any of the DJ years. what cliff?[/quote

How much do you think it would cost the club ?

The cost would be offset against valuable points gained on the road.

ah yes the 10 extra points .
right sit down,have a stiff drink because this is going to be a shock.
you dont get points for away fans. if you did Man Utd would never in a million years have been relegated in 70s because they took 20 times as many anywhere and everywhere compared to what others took. btwthe cliff didnt exist then either cause we took next to f**k all up there.

Lots of things contribute but the majority is a simple one. Age, the youngsters are coming through but are exactly that. They are a tad tto young to be going most weeks and that age range always represented the majority of away support. Am talking lads from say 18-30. Out of that age range your going to get the old skool who have grown up and have other commitments and will turn up for the ones they fancy.

It is what it is guys, the logistics don't help at all but it's sadly and end of an era which will come again once the kids grow up. It has changed it is different, joffs idea is good but it would effect home support should an away season ticket be introduced.

It is a bit stale as well, have done these grounds so many times it was refreshing to do Burton and villa park this season. Blad s next season will see and increase in away support.

I still maintain look at the logistics and we travelled well for a side with nothing to play for. Not off the scale like yesterday year but that was then not now and previously Leah's near play offs.

I will tell you what I disagree with, our club has 50 comps every away game.

Barnsley away on Tuesday night,Our players used 10 of them and the other 40 were just left in an envelope.

Surely our loyal fans deserve them.

Your right Annis,

I was at the game and outside the turnstiles they gave out free tickets, but those who had already travelled wod already have tickets, you wouldnt travel up there without a ticket or to pay extra on the gate in the hope you will get one as comp.

I dont mind paying the prices as I have done every away game this season, its annoying sometimes how they dont treat those loyal fans that you see week in and week out!

Your right Annis,

I was at the game and outside the turnstiles they gave out free tickets, but those who had already travelled wod already have tickets, you wouldnt travel up there without a ticket or to pay extra on the gate in the hope you will get one as comp.

I dont mind paying the prices as I have done every away game this season, its annoying sometimes how they dont treat those loyal fans that you see week in and week out!

Sam, Vince was telling me,most went to waste and it happens on all the night away games.

What annoys me most is Virgin now promoting that no football fan in the Prem will pay £20 for an away game these next few weeks yet they are already have been capped at £30 for this year.

Big corporate companies promoting something good in one of the richest leagues in the world but wont help loyal fans in a league we have paid 30+ numerous times this season and also have more away games in a season!

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

But surely a 'Club' works together for the best interests of all involved so in this instance the 'Clubs' best interests would be to have as many supporters at a match supporting the team. If the supporters of the Club have supported the team all season, at great financial cost what is so wrong with the Club then giving something back to those that have supported it throughout the year. It happens in almost every other industry to a lesser degree, whether it be getting a free pint at Christmas in your local pub or a free coffee at your local starbucks etc etc.

There's 100's of Millions of £'s running through Football Clubs and what we are talking about is £10-£20,000 as a gesture to those that support them all season.

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

But surely a 'Club' works together for the best interests of all involved so in this instance the 'Clubs' best interests would be to have as many supporters at a match supporting the team. If the supporters of the Club have supported the team all season, at great financial cost what is so wrong with the Club then giving something back to those that have supported it throughout the year. It happens in almost every other industry to a lesser degree, whether it be getting a free pint at Christmas in your local pub or a free coffee at your local starbucks etc etc.

There's 100's of Millions of £'s running through Football Clubs and what we are talking about is £10-£20,000 as a gesture to those that support them all season.

nothing wrong with the club deciding this at all. ..its people moaning if they dont do it.
the cafe gives you a free coffee ..your chuffed..then the pub gives you a free pint..over the moon.
the minute you have people starting this entitled to stuff.the gesture has gone.

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

I think you will find most supporters contribute greatly both financially and in time to assist the club. All I am suggesting is ways to increase our away support. Financially, unless it's a Cup game, the level of away support has no bearing on Cardiff City's Statement of Financial Position. That said, a large away support will probably gain about 10 extra points a season.

Our away support has dropped off a cliff, and any ideas , whilst unlikely to happen , can only be a good thing .

how does the club paying for coaches not effect finance?
btw our best away suport in my 50 years was the year in the prem. still didnt sell out everywhere . averaged about 2k
didnt fill grounds the year we went up or any of the DJ years. what cliff?[/quote

How much do you think it would cost the club ?

The cost would be offset against valuable points gained on the road.

ah yes the 10 extra points .
right sit down,have a stiff drink because this is going to be a shock.
you dont get points for away fans. if you did Man Utd would never in a million years have been relegated in 70s because they took 20 times as many anywhere and everywhere compared to what others took. btwthe cliff didnt exist then either cause we took next to f**k all up there.

I think you are deluded if you think a large vocal travelling support does not life the visiting team. Your deluded to think it has no effect whatsoever.i have been to over 125 grounds and I can tell you it lifts the players.... Moreso when hanging on against a team in the ascendancy. Ten points minimum I'd say.

I will tell you what I disagree with, our club has 50 comps every away game.

Barnsley away on Tuesday night,Our players used 10 of them and the other 40 were just left in an envelope.

Surely our loyal fans deserve them.

Absolutely.

Drinking allowed on the coaches, cheap train travel, being able to pay on the turnstiles, plus small fines for being 'nawty boys'. Then our away support would soon be among the best in the League, none of those are going to happen, so it is what it is!

I have always said the Club/players even could do more.

Last season we were at Burnley mid-week, we were still in with a shout of the Play Offs at the time and the game was during half term, I said at the time why dont the Club lay on some free travel, they could have booked 15 coaches and it would have cost them 15k not even a weeks wages for one player for most of the squad or the players could have chucked a couple of hundred quid in each, we could have taken close to a 1,000 up there as I'm sure plenty would have took advantage, especialy youngsters that were off school/college etc

R.V , I'm glad your on my wave length in respect of this subject. Why don't the players subsidise a very small percentage of their income for the supporters. Why, with all the money they earn, do they have the automatic right to complimentary match tickets?

I'm sure most players would be happy to assist if asked as well.

sorry but im not . im still on long wave, where we are supporters not dependants of the teams we suport.
we play in a league where many clubs have bigger crowds/ more gate reciepts/ bigger sponsors and more TV money than we do.
i have always believed we could be better and the only way to do that is by contributing.
dont ask what your club can do for you.ask what you can do for your club.
old fashioned view i know,but how ive always thought.

But surely a 'Club' works together for the best interests of all involved so in this instance the 'Clubs' best interests would be to have as many supporters at a match supporting the team. If the supporters of the Club have supported the team all season, at great financial cost what is so wrong with the Club then giving something back to those that have supported it throughout the year. It happens in almost every other industry to a lesser degree, whether it be getting a free pint at Christmas in your local pub or a free coffee at your local starbucks etc etc.

There's 100's of Millions of £'s running through Football Clubs and what we are talking about is £10-£20,000 as a gesture to those that support them all season.

nothing wrong with the club deciding this at all. ..its people moaning if they dont do it.
the cafe gives you a free coffee ..your chuffed..then the pub gives you a free pint..over the moon.
the minute you have people starting this entitled to stuff.the gesture has gone.

If that was the case I would 100% agree with you, as like yourself it seems, I believe you get out what you put in. When I say about the Club giving something back I am in no way moaning if they don't, just think, as you have said, the gesture would be appreciated and would be beneficial to the WHOLE Club.

Anyway, enough on this one from me, off to enjoy the BH weekend, have a good one all