cardiff crowds strange but true.

Annis you moan continuously about our away support. You fail to mention our home support is at its highest level since the 1960s.80/90s we averaged 4500 .1970s 12000 2000/2010 13000.
2010 to present 20000.



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Annis you moan continuously about our away support. You fail to mention our home support is at its highest level since the 1960s.80/90s we averaged 4500 .1970s 12000 2000/2010 13000.
2010 to present 20000.

Hes moaning but hes sunning himeself in spain

An average over the last 7 years? When's the last time we had 20k?

An average over the last 7 years? When's the last time we had 20k?

From 2010 our crowds were high add 20 games of around 30k (premier ) bet not far short of 20k average over 7rs?

According to Wikipedia city's crowds since 2009/10 season were as follows

2009/10 20,717
10/11 23,193
11/12 22, 100
12/13 22,998
13/14 27,429
14/15 21,123
15/16 16,255

Nothing to suggest these figures are not accurate

We had a few years where we were reaching Wembley and also contenders for promotion as well as our season in the PL. These were unusually high attendance figures for this brief period. I would say that for the majority of the time I have supported this club, our attendances have been anywhere between three and ten thousand. We seem to be able to get around 14,000 at our current level, but we need to be challenging for promotion to get 20k on a regular basis.

We had a few years where we were reaching Wembley and also contenders for promotion as well as our season in the PL. These were unusually high attendance figures for this brief period. I would say that for the majority of the time I have supported this club, our attendances have been anywhere between three and ten thousand. We seem to be able to get around 14,000 at our current level, but we need to be challenging for promotion to get 20k on a regular basis.

What it does show is success does improve attendances and guess lack of it means drop in attendances home and away?

An average over the last 7 years? When's the last time we had 20k?

From 2010 our crowds were high add 20 games of around 30k (premier ) bet not far short of 20k average over 7rs?

Your missing my point. The op said from 2010 to the present day av attnd are 20k unless I've read it wrong. But that average over 7 years doesn't represent how shocking our attendances have been in the last 3 seasons because its boosted by our promotion era.

But I do recognise that's obviously do to with success and Tbh it does get a bit repetitive seeing the same posts week in week out about how shit they are. It is what it is untill we start pushing again.

We had a few years where we were reaching Wembley and also contenders for promotion as well as our season in the PL. These were unusually high attendance figures for this brief period. I would say that for the majority of the time I have supported this club, our attendances have been anywhere between three and ten thousand. We seem to be able to get around 14,000 at our current level, but we need to be challenging for promotion to get 20k on a regular basis.

What it does show is success does improve attendances and guess lack of it means drop in attendances home and away?

Always been the same with the majority of clubs, fans want to see a winning side and when you are not winning only the hardcore support remains. We have to accept that we are not a big club, and the gates we are getting this season are on a par with past seasons when we have not been contenders for anything other than a mid to lower table finish. If we had been relegated this season we would probably have been back to gates of around ten thousand next season. If we can challenge at the top next season we will probably get around twenty thousand again, and if we have another mediocre season we will get the same as we are getting now.

We had a few years where we were reaching Wembley and also contenders for promotion as well as our season in the PL. These were unusually high attendance figures for this brief period. I would say that for the majority of the time I have supported this club, our attendances have been anywhere between three and ten thousand. We seem to be able to get around 14,000 at our current level, but we need to be challenging for promotion to get 20k on a regular basis.

What it does show is success does improve attendances and guess lack of it means drop in attendances home and away?

Always been the same with the majority of clubs, fans want to see a winning side and when you are not winning only the hardcore support remains. We have to accept that we are not a big club, and the gates we are getting this season are on a par with past seasons when we have not been contenders for anything other than a mid to lower table finish. If we had been relegated this season we would probably have been back to gates of around ten thousand next season. If we can challenge at the top next season we will probably get around twenty thousand again, and if we have another mediocre season we will get the same as we are getting now.

I agree and at least with NW it looks brighter next season !

An average over the last 7 years? When's the last time we had 20k?

From 2010 our crowds were high add 20 games of around 30k (premier ) bet not far short of 20k average over 7rs?

Your missing my point. The op said from 2010 to the present day av attnd are 20k unless I've read it wrong. But that average over 7 years doesn't represent how shocking our attendances have been in the last 3 seasons because its boosted by our promotion era.

But I do recognise that's obviously do to with success and Tbh it does get a bit repetitive seeing the same posts week in week out about how shit they are. It is what it is untill we start pushing again.

only a BIT repetitive?
those of us that remember those yearly relegation battles in the 70s used to dream of 16k crowds.
i think Skips point is things have been a hell of a lot worse than this.

An average over the last 7 years? When's the last time we had 20k?

From 2010 our crowds were high add 20 games of around 30k (premier ) bet not far short of 20k average over 7rs?

Your missing my point. The op said from 2010 to the present day av attnd are 20k unless I've read it wrong. But that average over 7 years doesn't represent how shocking our attendances have been in the last 3 seasons because its boosted by our promotion era.

But I do recognise that's obviously do to with success and Tbh it does get a bit repetitive seeing the same posts week in week out about how shit they are. It is what it is untill we start pushing again.

As I've shown in above post every season from 2009/10 our crowds have average over 20k
Except last season! ffs on other thread people are saying how shiiite our average away support is how else can you quantify crowds if not by average? Yes it's dropped last 2 seasons but to be expected taking account of poor football on display.

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

Exactly but people are still having a moan

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

Exactly but people are still having a moan

Wez, I have not once moaned about our home support as I was there when we averaged 4,000 home crowds and it's improved vastly without a doubt

Sadly Our away support has gone the other away.

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

Exactly but people are still having a moan

I looked on Wikipedia and they give last 7 yrs average attendances! (See above) on wain last 2 seasons but to be expected.

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

I think we did ok early 70's as well. I seem to remember we were averaging over 20,000 around the time we played Real Madrid. Think we had a couple of years with good crowds when Toshack was knocking them in for us.

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

Exactly but people are still having a moan

Wez, I have not once moaned about our home support as I was there when we averaged 4,000 home crowds and it's improved vastly without a doubt

Sadly Our away support has gone the other away.

I was there when our crowds were poor in the late 80s and 90s but the fact is times change but the last 10 years have been our most successful period ever and our crowds have been the best our premier season gome and away was the best supported season for probably the 44 years you have been going

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

I think we did ok early 70's as well. I seem to remember we were averaging over 20,000 around the time we played Real Madrid. Think we had a couple of years with good crowds when Toshack was knocking them in for us.

we had 2 consecutive 21k averages in 69/70 and 70/71 but after that and in fact bfore it was less than we get now. we actually managed a 4,363 avearage in this division in 1984/85.
the club has got bigger and stronger since then . only some just dont want to recognise it.

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

Exactly but people are still having a moan

Wez, I have not once moaned about our home support as I was there when we averaged 4,000 home crowds and it's improved vastly without a doubt

Sadly Our away support has gone the other away.

Annis isnt just a case of our fans not interested in going away for whatever reason ? Times move on so do fans prioritise ! Our support is poor away but short of being in premier or offering free travel/cheap tickets it won't change until success comes back.

Correct we are currently enjoying our highest level of support since the 1960s.possibly higher I haven't crunched all the numbers yet.

I think we did ok early 70's as well. I seem to remember we were averaging over 20,000 around the time we played Real Madrid. Think we had a couple of years with good crowds when Toshack was knocking them in for us.

we had 2 consecutive 21k averages in 69/70 and 70/71 but after that and in fact bfore it was less than we get now. we actually managed a 4,363 avearage in this division in 1984/85.
the club has got bigger and stronger since then . only some just dont want to recognise it.

My memory is not what what it was, but I recall the good days when Toshack & Clarke were scoring every week. I am not convinced this club is bigger now than it was then. The crowds come with success. Back in those days we were challenging towards the top of Div 2 and having some good European nights thrown in. In recent years we were challenging for play offs as well as having some good cup runs, and of course winning this league. The crowds are around when we do well, and vanish when we are not winning things.

I think people remember the big away games but forget the hundreds of times there were only 1-200 of us away- probably because hardly anyone was there to remember it

I think people remember the big away games but forget the hundreds of times there were only 1-200 of us away- probably because hardly anyone was there to remember it

I remember going to burley on a Tuesday night just after the risdale ticket money scandal and there were only 150 of us it was bloody freezing, cant just keep blaming tan our surport has always been indifferent

I think people remember the big away games but forget the hundreds of times there were only 1-200 of us away- probably because hardly anyone was there to remember it

this is my take on it too. ive done loads of aways with less than 500 of us there. was begining to think i had imagined it all, or that there is a parrallel world where if you didnt get there early youd be locked out.

I remember going to preston on boxing day for a bloody 12pm kick off! Must have been 50 of us we lost 5 nil. Ian rogerson was a sub who got subbed and i think either saville or white scored a hatrick for them...

Been away lots of times in the 1990s with a few hundred many time's. We had the pull to take a few thousand for certain games. London always had extra...

Strangely i look back in more fondness of these days that the most recent successes we have had

I think you have to be a bit sceptic with some of the official figures. The official attendances announced in the eighties were laughably low compared to the actual number of people in the ground. It was a standard joke. These days it seems to be the other way around though this is probably explained by the fact that all tickets holders are counted whether they turn up or not. This is particularly true in the family stand where it is very cheap to buy a season ticket for kids under 9. When a crowd of 15,000 is announced, you can knock off at least 3,000. Considering our position in the League, support is broadly similar to what it always been apart from the eighties when every clubs crowds fell.

I think you have to be a bit sceptic with some of the official figures. The official attendances announced in the eighties were laughably low compared to the actual number of people in the ground. It was a standard joke. These days it seems to be the other way around though this is probably explained by the fact that all tickets holders are counted whether they turn up or not. This is particularly true in the family stand where it is very cheap to buy a season ticket for kids under 9. When a crowd of 15,000 is announced, you can knock off at least 3,000. Considering our position in the League, support is broadly similar to what it always been apart from the eighties when every clubs crowds fell.

Exactly the crowds were announced lower than they were as fiddling went on.

I think you have to be a bit sceptic with some of the official figures. The official attendances announced in the eighties were laughably low compared to the actual number of people in the ground. It was a standard joke. These days it seems to be the other way around though this is probably explained by the fact that all tickets holders are counted whether they turn up or not. This is particularly true in the family stand where it is very cheap to buy a season ticket for kids under 9. When a crowd of 15,000 is announced, you can knock off at least 3,000. Considering our position in the League, support is broadly similar to what it always been apart from the eighties when every clubs crowds fell.

Exactly the crowds were announced lower than they were as fiddling went on.

As if they would have! One for the club, one for me was the order of the day.

I think you have to be a bit sceptic with some of the official figures. The official attendances announced in the eighties were laughably low compared to the actual number of people in the ground. It was a standard joke. These days it seems to be the other way around though this is probably explained by the fact that all tickets holders are counted whether they turn up or not. This is particularly true in the family stand where it is very cheap to buy a season ticket for kids under 9. When a crowd of 15,000 is announced, you can knock off at least 3,000. Considering our position in the League, support is broadly similar to what it always been apart from the eighties when every clubs crowds fell.

Exactly the crowds were announced lower than they were as fiddling went on.

As if they would have! One for the club, one for me was the order of the day.

I remember plenty of times seeing Ninian Park well over half full, and the attendance being announced as something like 7,000 and everyone looking at each other and laughing. Think they probably forgot to include all those on the bob bank.

I think you have to be a bit sceptic with some of the official figures. The official attendances announced in the eighties were laughably low compared to the actual number of people in the ground. It was a standard joke. These days it seems to be the other way around though this is probably explained by the fact that all tickets holders are counted whether they turn up or not. This is particularly true in the family stand where it is very cheap to buy a season ticket for kids under 9. When a crowd of 15,000 is announced, you can knock off at least 3,000. Considering our position in the League, support is broadly similar to what it always been apart from the eighties when every clubs crowds fell.

Exactly the crowds were announced lower than they were as fiddling went on.

As if they would have! One for the club, one for me was the order of the day.

It certainly was.