Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:55 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:59 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:48 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:32 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:One good 45 minutes against a team with nothing to play for ???
We all know Whitts was a class player in his prime but that was 4/5 years ago.
He hasn't done anywhere near enough this season to warrant a 10k a week (520,000 per year) plus bonuses contract.
Given the space and time he can still perform at this level...but do you honestly believe opposition players are going to give him as much time and room has he had on Saturday in a more competitive and meaningful match next season???
He just hasn't got the legs anymore...time to say goodbye with our thanks for 10 great years
Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:33 am
Forever Blue wrote:' NEIL WARNOCK A MASSIVE DECISION? ? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
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" PETER WHITTINGHAMS NEW CONTRACT? "
Peter Whittingham was given a new contact when Cardiff City gained promotion to the Premier League and the rise from was believed to be as big as up to £25,000 a week.
Peter Whittingham is nearly 33 years old and for the last two years has been in and out of the Cardiff City team.
Whitts contacts runs out this June,Whitts was offered a new contact a few months back and it is believed it was approx £10,000 a week with bonuses etc depending on the amount of appearances etc.
Whitts never signed the new contract and a couple of months later the contract was withdrawn for now.
Neil Warnock only has a small budget for the 2017-18 season,so Warnock is limited in what he can offer and also how much Warnock himself rates Whittingham.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
But on Saturday Whittingham against Brentford gave one of his best performances of the season.
Peter Whittingham cast a nice shadow over Cardiff City Stadium again on Saturday and his movements and the precision of his passing – for a while it came flooding back and Whitts looked pure class.
For many Cardiff City supporters, his performance evoked memories of years gone by. The class Whittingham years returned.
The big question is,can Whittingham play consistently to that level every week and thus be involved in Neil Warnock’s ambitious bid for promotion next season?
Neil Warnock says he already has 90% of his plans in place for a potential promotion push next season.
NEIL WARNOCK:
"We had discussions and couldn't quite reach an agreement," said Warnock on March 31st this year.
"We've spoken to Peter about a compromised contract and until I know the figures I don't know what we can offer."
"We will speak again after I have my full budget in place"
SO WHAT DOES NEIL WARNOK DO?
OFFER MORE & USE UP MORE OF HIS BUDGET?
OR OFFER WHAT HE ALREADY OFFERED WHITTS?
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/
Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:22 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:One good 45 minutes against a team with nothing to play for ???
We all know Whitts was a class player in his prime but that was 4/5 years ago.
He hasn't done anywhere near enough this season to warrant a 10k a week (520,000 per year) plus bonuses contract.
Given the space and time he can still perform at this level...but do you honestly believe opposition players are going to give him as much time and room has he had on Saturday in a more competitive and meaningful match next season???
He just hasn't got the legs anymore...time to say goodbye with our thanks for 10 great years
Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:24 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:44 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:44 am
Penyfai Blue wrote:If we don't offer him a new contract, there'll be plenty of championship clubs queuing up for his signature with bigger contracts.
IMO definitely worth a £10K contract. Still a class player and has plenty more to give as proved on Saturday. If a player of Whitts calibre becomes available in the summer, most City fans would be wetting themselves over signing him up.
Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:49 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:01 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Forever Blue wrote:' NEIL WARNOCK A MASSIVE DECISION? ? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
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" PETER WHITTINGHAMS NEW CONTRACT? "
Peter Whittingham was given a new contact when Cardiff City gained promotion to the Premier League and the rise from was believed to be as big as up to £25,000 a week.
Peter Whittingham is nearly 33 years old and for the last two years has been in and out of the Cardiff City team.
Whitts contacts runs out this June,Whitts was offered a new contact a few months back and it is believed it was approx £10,000 a week with bonuses etc depending on the amount of appearances etc.
Whitts never signed the new contract and a couple of months later the contract was withdrawn for now.
Neil Warnock only has a small budget for the 2017-18 season,so Warnock is limited in what he can offer and also how much Warnock himself rates Whittingham.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
But on Saturday Whittingham against Brentford gave one of his best performances of the season.
Peter Whittingham cast a nice shadow over Cardiff City Stadium again on Saturday and his movements and the precision of his passing – for a while it came flooding back and Whitts looked pure class.
For many Cardiff City supporters, his performance evoked memories of years gone by. The class Whittingham years returned.
The big question is,can Whittingham play consistently to that level every week and thus be involved in Neil Warnock’s ambitious bid for promotion next season?
Neil Warnock says he already has 90% of his plans in place for a potential promotion push next season.
NEIL WARNOCK:
"We had discussions and couldn't quite reach an agreement," said Warnock on March 31st this year.
"We've spoken to Peter about a compromised contract and until I know the figures I don't know what we can offer."
"We will speak again after I have my full budget in place"
SO WHAT DOES NEIL WARNOK DO?
OFFER MORE & USE UP MORE OF HIS BUDGET?
OR OFFER WHAT HE ALREADY OFFERED WHITTS?
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/
I think that report slightly over eggs the performance. Played well but hardly a £25kpw one.
Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:13 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:35 am
Forever Blue wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Forever Blue wrote:' NEIL WARNOCK A MASSIVE DECISION? ? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
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" PETER WHITTINGHAMS NEW CONTRACT? "
Peter Whittingham was given a new contact when Cardiff City gained promotion to the Premier League and the rise from was believed to be as big as up to £25,000 a week.
Peter Whittingham is nearly 33 years old and for the last two years has been in and out of the Cardiff City team.
Whitts contacts runs out this June,Whitts was offered a new contact a few months back and it is believed it was approx £10,000 a week with bonuses etc depending on the amount of appearances etc.
Whitts never signed the new contract and a couple of months later the contract was withdrawn for now.
Neil Warnock only has a small budget for the 2017-18 season,so Warnock is limited in what he can offer and also how much Warnock himself rates Whittingham.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
But on Saturday Whittingham against Brentford gave one of his best performances of the season.
Peter Whittingham cast a nice shadow over Cardiff City Stadium again on Saturday and his movements and the precision of his passing – for a while it came flooding back and Whitts looked pure class.
For many Cardiff City supporters, his performance evoked memories of years gone by. The class Whittingham years returned.
The big question is,can Whittingham play consistently to that level every week and thus be involved in Neil Warnock’s ambitious bid for promotion next season?
Neil Warnock says he already has 90% of his plans in place for a potential promotion push next season.
NEIL WARNOCK:
"We had discussions and couldn't quite reach an agreement," said Warnock on March 31st this year.
"We've spoken to Peter about a compromised contract and until I know the figures I don't know what we can offer."
"We will speak again after I have my full budget in place"
SO WHAT DOES NEIL WARNOK DO?
OFFER MORE & USE UP MORE OF HIS BUDGET?
OR OFFER WHAT HE ALREADY OFFERED WHITTS?
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/
I think that report slightly over eggs the performance. Played well but hardly a £25kpw one.
Tony ,
My personal view is Whitts only does it one in ever four games and I would only offer him £7,000 a week and bonus if he plays at least 30 games next season
Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:36 am
City Slicker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Forever Blue wrote:' NEIL WARNOCK A MASSIVE DECISION? ? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
![]()
" PETER WHITTINGHAMS NEW CONTRACT? "
Peter Whittingham was given a new contact when Cardiff City gained promotion to the Premier League and the rise from was believed to be as big as up to £25,000 a week.
Peter Whittingham is nearly 33 years old and for the last two years has been in and out of the Cardiff City team.
Whitts contacts runs out this June,Whitts was offered a new contact a few months back and it is believed it was approx £10,000 a week with bonuses etc depending on the amount of appearances etc.
Whitts never signed the new contract and a couple of months later the contract was withdrawn for now.
Neil Warnock only has a small budget for the 2017-18 season,so Warnock is limited in what he can offer and also how much Warnock himself rates Whittingham.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
But on Saturday Whittingham against Brentford gave one of his best performances of the season.
Peter Whittingham cast a nice shadow over Cardiff City Stadium again on Saturday and his movements and the precision of his passing – for a while it came flooding back and Whitts looked pure class.
For many Cardiff City supporters, his performance evoked memories of years gone by. The class Whittingham years returned.
The big question is,can Whittingham play consistently to that level every week and thus be involved in Neil Warnock’s ambitious bid for promotion next season?
Neil Warnock says he already has 90% of his plans in place for a potential promotion push next season.
NEIL WARNOCK:
"We had discussions and couldn't quite reach an agreement," said Warnock on March 31st this year.
"We've spoken to Peter about a compromised contract and until I know the figures I don't know what we can offer."
"We will speak again after I have my full budget in place"
SO WHAT DOES NEIL WARNOK DO?
OFFER MORE & USE UP MORE OF HIS BUDGET?
OR OFFER WHAT HE ALREADY OFFERED WHITTS?
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/
I think that report slightly over eggs the performance. Played well but hardly a £25kpw one.
Tony ,
My personal view is Whitts only does it one in ever four games and I would only offer him £7,000 a week and bonus if he plays at least 30 games next season
Totally agree, that would be a sensible approach. I think we have to move on, make changes and look to the future now.
Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:44 am
Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:03 am
Penyfai Blue wrote:If we don't offer him a new contract, there'll be plenty of championship clubs queuing up for his signature with bigger contracts.
IMO definitely worth a £10K contract. Still a class player and has plenty more to give as proved on Saturday. If a player of Whitts calibre becomes available in the summer, most City fans would be wetting themselves over signing him up.
Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:14 am
totally agree value for money we should be gettingForever Blue wrote:City Slicker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Forever Blue wrote:' NEIL WARNOCK A MASSIVE DECISION? ? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
![]()
" PETER WHITTINGHAMS NEW CONTRACT? "
Peter Whittingham was given a new contact when Cardiff City gained promotion to the Premier League and the rise from was believed to be as big as up to £25,000 a week.
Peter Whittingham is nearly 33 years old and for the last two years has been in and out of the Cardiff City team.
Whitts contacts runs out this June,Whitts was offered a new contact a few months back and it is believed it was approx £10,000 a week with bonuses etc depending on the amount of appearances etc.
Whitts never signed the new contract and a couple of months later the contract was withdrawn for now.
Neil Warnock only has a small budget for the 2017-18 season,so Warnock is limited in what he can offer and also how much Warnock himself rates Whittingham.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
But on Saturday Whittingham against Brentford gave one of his best performances of the season.
Peter Whittingham cast a nice shadow over Cardiff City Stadium again on Saturday and his movements and the precision of his passing – for a while it came flooding back and Whitts looked pure class.
For many Cardiff City supporters, his performance evoked memories of years gone by. The class Whittingham years returned.
The big question is,can Whittingham play consistently to that level every week and thus be involved in Neil Warnock’s ambitious bid for promotion next season?
Neil Warnock says he already has 90% of his plans in place for a potential promotion push next season.
NEIL WARNOCK:
"We had discussions and couldn't quite reach an agreement," said Warnock on March 31st this year.
"We've spoken to Peter about a compromised contract and until I know the figures I don't know what we can offer."
"We will speak again after I have my full budget in place"
SO WHAT DOES NEIL WARNOK DO?
OFFER MORE & USE UP MORE OF HIS BUDGET?
OR OFFER WHAT HE ALREADY OFFERED WHITTS?
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/
I think that report slightly over eggs the performance. Played well but hardly a £25kpw one.
Tony ,
My personal view is Whitts only does it one in ever four games and I would only offer him £7,000 a week and bonus if he plays at least 30 games next season
Totally agree, that would be a sensible approach. I think we have to move on, make changes and look to the future now.
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Warnock has not got a budget to carry players,he needs players at their best week in week out![]()
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:51 am
wez1927 wrote:totally agree value for money we should be gettingForever Blue wrote:City Slicker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:Forever Blue wrote:' NEIL WARNOCK A MASSIVE DECISION? ? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
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" PETER WHITTINGHAMS NEW CONTRACT? "
Peter Whittingham was given a new contact when Cardiff City gained promotion to the Premier League and the rise from was believed to be as big as up to £25,000 a week.
Peter Whittingham is nearly 33 years old and for the last two years has been in and out of the Cardiff City team.
Whitts contacts runs out this June,Whitts was offered a new contact a few months back and it is believed it was approx £10,000 a week with bonuses etc depending on the amount of appearances etc.
Whitts never signed the new contract and a couple of months later the contract was withdrawn for now.
Neil Warnock only has a small budget for the 2017-18 season,so Warnock is limited in what he can offer and also how much Warnock himself rates Whittingham.
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/![]()
But on Saturday Whittingham against Brentford gave one of his best performances of the season.
Peter Whittingham cast a nice shadow over Cardiff City Stadium again on Saturday and his movements and the precision of his passing – for a while it came flooding back and Whitts looked pure class.
For many Cardiff City supporters, his performance evoked memories of years gone by. The class Whittingham years returned.
The big question is,can Whittingham play consistently to that level every week and thus be involved in Neil Warnock’s ambitious bid for promotion next season?
Neil Warnock says he already has 90% of his plans in place for a potential promotion push next season.
NEIL WARNOCK:
"We had discussions and couldn't quite reach an agreement," said Warnock on March 31st this year.
"We've spoken to Peter about a compromised contract and until I know the figures I don't know what we can offer."
"We will speak again after I have my full budget in place"
SO WHAT DOES NEIL WARNOK DO?
OFFER MORE & USE UP MORE OF HIS BUDGET?
OR OFFER WHAT HE ALREADY OFFERED WHITTS?
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/04/1 ... -decision/
I think that report slightly over eggs the performance. Played well but hardly a £25kpw one.
Tony ,
My personal view is Whitts only does it one in ever four games and I would only offer him £7,000 a week and bonus if he plays at least 30 games next season
Totally agree, that would be a sensible approach. I think we have to move on, make changes and look to the future now.
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Warnock has not got a budget to carry players,he needs players at their best week in week out![]()
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:58 am
It's a 'no brainer' that the budget doesn't exist to pay players money they are not worth. If any good is to come out of the Lambert saga then it's a collective 'no more of those contracts' to aging players who can't deliver consistently anymore.GotMeSingingTheBlues wrote:It obviously all comes down to the size of budget we're able to have. For me it's a no brainier, if the money is there then we give him a contract. His days of playing week in week out are coming to an end but Saturdays second half performance reiterated how useful he can still be for us, if used correctly. He just oozes class.
Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:00 pm
Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:03 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Penyfai Blue wrote:If we don't offer him a new contract, there'll be plenty of championship clubs queuing up for his signature with bigger contracts.
IMO definitely worth a £10K contract. Still a class player and has plenty more to give as proved on Saturday. If a player of Whitts calibre becomes available in the summer, most City fans would be wetting themselves over signing him up.
I would be more than happy if he was playing for a team against us next season. Although his dead ball delivery is still good at times...hurry him and don't give him any room or time in Midfield and he becomes a virtual passenger
Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:05 pm
Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:11 pm
2blue2handle wrote:I don't think he will stay, I don't blame him or the club though. He can get more money elsewhere and we don't want to be paying big wages for someone who will be mostly a sub.
I wish him well but its time to move on.
Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:11 pm
Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:56 pm
Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:02 pm
castleblue wrote:Whitts is 33 in September so in my opinion this is as big a decision for him as it is for the club as it probably will be the final contract of his career. We are most likely talking about a contract of no more than 2 years so would he want to move just for money, would he like a contract that will include helping him with coaching qualifications and would he be guaranteed a starting role at any club he moves to.
Whitts has passed the maximum earning period of his career and whatever happens it is highly unlikely he will get a contract like his current one, although during these times of austerity it probably will be possible to get a better one elsewhere. We should remember that Whitts, as a free transfer, would be a fantastic signing for the majority of Championship teams, even at 33.
Whitts still has the highest number of assists of any player in Championship history, only two players (MacCormack & Rhodes) have scored more Championship goals than him and he has scored more penalties than any other player in Championship history. Even this season he has most assists at our club and only two players have scored more goals and if you include key passes he is in a league of his own this season so he still makes a massive contribution.
In my opinion he can continue to make a big contribution to our future, but not as a guaranteed starter and I hope both parties can agree a sensible contract and he can continue to the end of his career as a Bluebird.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:33 pm
castleblue wrote:Whitts is 33 in September so in my opinion this is as big a decision for him as it is for the club as it probably will be the final contract of his career. We are most likely talking about a contract of no more than 2 years so would he want to move just for money, would he like a contract that will include helping him with coaching qualifications and would he be guaranteed a starting role at any club he moves to.
Whitts has passed the maximum earning period of his career and whatever happens it is highly unlikely he will get a contract like his current one, although during these times of austerity it probably will be possible to get a better one elsewhere. We should remember that Whitts, as a free transfer, would be a fantastic signing for the majority of Championship teams, even at 33.
Whitts still has the highest number of assists of any player in Championship history, only two players (MacCormack & Rhodes) have scored more Championship goals than him and he has scored more penalties than any other player in Championship history. Even this season he has most assists at our club and only two players have scored more goals and if you include key passes he is in a league of his own this season so he still makes a massive contribution.
In my opinion he can continue to make a big contribution to our future, but not as a guaranteed starter and I hope both parties can agree a sensible contract and he can continue to the end of his career as a Bluebird.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:41 pm
castleblue wrote:Whitts is 33 in September so in my opinion this is as big a decision for him as it is for the club as it probably will be the final contract of his career. We are most likely talking about a contract of no more than 2 years so would he want to move just for money, would he like a contract that will include helping him with coaching qualifications and would he be guaranteed a starting role at any club he moves to.
Whitts has passed the maximum earning period of his career and whatever happens it is highly unlikely he will get a contract like his current one, although during these times of austerity it probably will be possible to get a better one elsewhere. We should remember that Whitts, as a free transfer, would be a fantastic signing for the majority of Championship teams, even at 33.
Whitts still has the highest number of assists of any player in Championship history, only two players (MacCormack & Rhodes) have scored more Championship goals than him and he has scored more penalties than any other player in Championship history. Even this season he has most assists at our club and only two players have scored more goals and if you include key passes he is in a league of his own this season so he still makes a massive contribution.
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In my opinion he can continue to make a big contribution to our future, but not as a guaranteed starter and I hope both parties can agree a sensible contract and he can continue to the end of his career as a Bluebird.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:39 pm
Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:24 pm