Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:52 pm
Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:59 pm
Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:24 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Yep an excellent achievement.
However are we really safe? Blackburn could mathematically overtake us if they won all their games hansomely and we lost all ours. However what about the clubs between us and Blackburn. A number of them have got to play each other therefore points will be dropped. Are there enough drop points between all those clubs to say we are definitely safe now?
An interesting exercise if that excites you enough.
Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:27 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Yep an excellent achievement.
However are we really safe? Blackburn could mathematically overtake us if they won all their games hansomely and we lost all ours. However what about the clubs between us and Blackburn. A number of them have got to play each other therefore points will be dropped. Are there enough drop points between all those clubs to say we are definitely safe now?
An interesting exercise if that excites you enough.
Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:48 pm
Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:16 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Blackburn have Nottingham Forest, Burton and the Wurzels to play. If they win those games then Forest and Burton can both finish on 57 points and the Wurzels 56.
The Wurzels have QPR and Birmingham to play and if they win those games it mean QPR can finish on 62 and the ZULUs on 58. The Wurzels will be on target to have 56.
Now Burton have the Zulus to play still. A draw would would leave each team with a possible target of Burton 55 and Birmingham 56. Burtons remaining games are against clubs higher than us so comfortable wins will see them above us. Birminghams remaining games are against teams that can not catch us, Rotherham, or teams above us. So if they win their remaining games they will be above us.
So onto Forest. If they take a point of Blackburn we are safe. However if they lose but win their remaining games they will finish on 57. 2 of those games are against clubs below us who can still over take us. Those clubs are QPR and Ipswich. If they beat QPR then the Londoners will now be on 59 points to finish. Ipswich will be on 61 if the lose to Forest however they have Burton to play of which Burton need to win that one. If Ipswich lose against Burton too then they still can finish on 58.
And when was the last time City lost 5 on the bounce?
That leave the Wolves who are only 4 point behind us. They only have Blackburn to play which Blackburn needs to win. All their other opponents are above us so they could quite easily overtake us.
So my findings are we are not mathematically safe yet.
Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:42 pm
The Cobra wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Blackburn have Nottingham Forest, Burton and the Wurzels to play. If they win those games then Forest and Burton can both finish on 57 points and the Wurzels 56.
The Wurzels have QPR and Birmingham to play and if they win those games it mean QPR can finish on 62 and the ZULUs on 58. The Wurzels will be on target to have 56.
Now Burton have the Zulus to play still. A draw would would leave each team with a possible target of Burton 55 and Birmingham 56. Burtons remaining games are against clubs higher than us so comfortable wins will see them above us. Birminghams remaining games are against teams that can not catch us, Rotherham, or teams above us. So if they win their remaining games they will be above us.
So onto Forest. If they take a point of Blackburn we are safe. However if they lose but win their remaining games they will finish on 57. 2 of those games are against clubs below us who can still over take us. Those clubs are QPR and Ipswich. If they beat QPR then the Londoners will now be on 59 points to finish. Ipswich will be on 61 if the lose to Forest however they have Burton to play of which Burton need to win that one. If Ipswich lose against Burton too then they still can finish on 58.
That leave the Wolves who are only 4 point behind us. They only have Blackburn to play which Blackburn needs to win. All their other opponents are above us so they could quite easily overtake us.
So my findings are we are not mathematically safe yet.
And when was the last time City lost 5 on the bounce?
Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:48 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Yep an excellent achievement.
However are we really safe? Blackburn could mathematically overtake us if they won all their games hansomely and we lost all ours. However what about the clubs between us and Blackburn. A number of them have got to play each other therefore points will be dropped. Are there enough drop points between all those clubs to say we are definitely safe now?
An interesting exercise if that excites you enough.
Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:51 pm
dogfound wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Yep an excellent achievement.
However are we really safe? Blackburn could mathematically overtake us if they won all their games hansomely and we lost all ours. However what about the clubs between us and Blackburn. A number of them have got to play each other therefore points will be dropped. Are there enough drop points between all those clubs to say we are definitely safe now?
An interesting exercise if that excites you enough.
if blackburn were to win all 5..15pts {including beating brisol city} mathematically they could catch us if we lost all 5. BUT the blackburn win over Brisol would then mean that they {bc} would have to win their other 4 games to finish above us or go down themselves.
Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:51 pm
dogfound wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Yep an excellent achievement.
However are we really safe? Blackburn could mathematically overtake us if they won all their games hansomely and we lost all ours. However what about the clubs between us and Blackburn. A number of them have got to play each other therefore points will be dropped. Are there enough drop points between all those clubs to say we are definitely safe now?
An interesting exercise if that excites you enough.
if blackburn were to win all 5..15pts {including beating brisol city} mathematically they could catch us if we lost all 5. BUT the blackburn win over Brisol would then mean that they {bc} would have to win their other 4 games to finish above us or go down themselves.
Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:02 pm
Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:05 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:dogfound wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Yep an excellent achievement.
However are we really safe? Blackburn could mathematically overtake us if they won all their games hansomely and we lost all ours. However what about the clubs between us and Blackburn. A number of them have got to play each other therefore points will be dropped. Are there enough drop points between all those clubs to say we are definitely safe now?
An interesting exercise if that excites you enough.
if blackburn were to win all 5..15pts {including beating brisol city} mathematically they could catch us if we lost all 5. BUT the blackburn win over Brisol would then mean that they {bc} would have to win their other 4 games to finish above us or go down themselves.
We could lose our last 5 and we still won't go down. We have been safe for a while. It will be all Blackburn can do just to win a game, they are not going to win all 5, guaranteed.
Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:29 pm
Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:31 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:We are still not safe.
Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:09 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:We are still not safe.
You genuinely believe we are still in trouble?
Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:33 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:We are still not safe.
You genuinely believe we are still in trouble?
Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:49 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:We are still not safe.
You genuinely believe we are still in trouble?
No but we are not mathematically safe yet.