Brighton Promotion - The Trollope Factor

Watched the Brighton v QPR game last night and I believe Brighton thoroughly deserve to get promoted.

I would prefer them to go up as champions over Newcastle.

What did annoy me was seeing Trollope reveling in the glory after his poor attempt at management with us.

Of recent managers I think he was the worst we have had and I think of all those points we lost under him.

All the very best to Brighton but as for Trollope, his name matches his leadership qualities.

Trollope? Never rated him!

Brighton for me deserve to win league and I hope they do

Some people just aren't cut out to be a manager but can be a great success as a number two, a sounding board who's ideas and suggestions can be either taken on board or dismissed by the manager who ultimately decides how useful or not those ideas are.

I've no animosity towards Trollope although I must say he was probably the worst manager I've seen us have in over 45 years following the club.

He was given an opportunity to manage a club playing at a higher level than he had ever managed before and was probably offered more money than he'd ever had. He had been part of a successful international set up for some time and probably thought that he could be a success at Cardiff.

What slightly annoys me is that when it quickly became obvious to everybody that the job was way beyond him he just kept going instead of acknowledging his limitations.

Make no mistake - if he hadn't been sacked when he was we would be down now with Rotherham.

Good luck to him - a successful number two but never a manager at anything above League 2 level, something which the club should have realised before appointing him and backing him by throwing ridiculous sums of money at Sicknote Lambert.

Don't see why Trollope reveling in what Brighton are achieving now would annoy you to be honest? Good luck to him I say, his 11 game stint as Manager here was not great but it is very easy to forget everything else that was going on around the Club during his period in charge. IMO some of his signings have been very good and I believe they will go on and do well for us in the future. I am not saying he is the next Jose Mourinho but in my opinion he is an easy target when a lot of the blame for our start of the season lies from above.

Don't see why Trollope reveling in what Brighton are achieving now would annoy you to be honest? Good luck to him I say, his 11 game stint as Manager here was not great but it is very easy to forget everything else that was going on around the Club during his period in charge. IMO some of his signings have been very good and I believe they will go on and do well for us in the future. I am not saying he is the next Jose Mourinho but in my opinion he is an easy target when a lot of the blame for our start of the season lies from above.

It's rare I disagree with your post, and I appreciate difficulties but PT was a disaster and you could see it from an early stage. He had no balls whatsoever and I was begging for him to be sacked which isn't something I do. He did however make a good signing in Jazz Richards and Bennett but other than that, total Trollope.

Not sure what your disagreeing with me about mate tbh? You have basicly said what I have so we seem to be on the same page?

Trollope is a good coach , but he's not cut out to be a manager , we played better when Trollope became our coach under Slade , Wales also played better when Trollope was coach .

Don't see why Trollope reveling in what Brighton are achieving now would annoy you to be honest? Good luck to him I say, his 11 game stint as Manager here was not great but it is very easy to forget everything else that was going on around the Club during his period in charge. IMO some of his signings have been very good and I believe they will go on and do well for us in the future. I am not saying he is the next Jose Mourinho but in my opinion he is an easy target when a lot of the blame for our start of the season lies from above.

The opening programme notes for our first home game of the season tell you that there was great enthusiasm, and hope of a successful season ahead,,,only for it to very quickly evaporate into one of despair,,,and desperation.

We had a bad start,,,,mainly due to a late pre season start made by PT, due to his WFA coaching commitments,,,commitments fully endorsed by our club, at the time.
I'm not personally that impressed by any of his signings either,,,one ot two might progress next season, but wasn't it all about building a team too play the "Welsh way",,,, at that time? Quite where Ricky Lambert was to slot in to that system at the end of last August is puzzling,,,apart from the fact that even then, on the last day of the transfer window, the alarm bells were ringing.
In my opinion, RL was a desperate attempt to get the season going, after all, didn't PT and RL go back a long time?

Don't see why Trollope reveling in what Brighton are achieving now would annoy you to be honest? Good luck to him I say, his 11 game stint as Manager here was not great but it is very easy to forget everything else that was going on around the Club during his period in charge. IMO some of his signings have been very good and I believe they will go on and do well for us in the future. I am not saying he is the next Jose Mourinho but in my opinion he is an easy target when a lot of the blame for our start of the season lies from above.

The opening programme notes for our first home game of the season tell you that there was great enthusiasm, and hope of a successful season ahead,,,only for it to very quickly evaporate into one of despair,,,and desperation.

We had a bad start,,,,mainly due to a late pre season start made by PT, due to his WFA coaching commitments,,,commitments fully endorsed by our club, at the time.
I'm not personally that impressed by any of his signings either,,,one ot two might progress next season, but wasn't it all about building a team too play the "Welsh way",,,, at that time? Quite where Ricky Lambert was to slot in to that system at the end of last August is puzzling,,,apart from the fact that even then, on the last day of the transfer window, the alarm bells were ringing.
In my opinion, RL was a desperate attempt to get the season going, after all, didn't PT and RL go back a long time?

As I said in my opening reply, his 11 game stint in charge was not great but I do not see why anyone would have any ill feeling towards him or be annoyed in reveling in his part in Brighton's success this season and impending Promotion.

Ricky Lambert was an awful singing, I said so myself at the time, many others thought the opposite. He was a panic buy, a name to appease the fans after the sales of Fabio and Marshall.

I am not saying that Trollope is totally innocent but for me he was always swimming against the tide with the way our Club was being run from above and as has been stated elsewhere he was just a yes man.

But, when all is said and done, I blame Tan and the board more than I do Trollope, but that's just my personal opinion. How was he supposed to built a Squad and get a team bond going when his two best players were sold from under him and others constantly linked with moves away if a bid came in, the uncertainty must surely have had a negative effect on the whole squad, it was no way to run a Club, his position was constantly undermined from the start.

Don't see why Trollope reveling in what Brighton are achieving now would annoy you to be honest? Good luck to him I say, his 11 game stint as Manager here was not great but it is very easy to forget everything else that was going on around the Club during his period in charge. IMO some of his signings have been very good and I believe they will go on and do well for us in the future. I am not saying he is the next Jose Mourinho but in my opinion he is an easy target when a lot of the blame for our start of the season lies from above.

The opening programme notes for our first home game of the season tell you that there was great enthusiasm, and hope of a successful season ahead,,,only for it to very quickly evaporate into one of despair,,,and desperation.

We had a bad start,,,,mainly due to a late pre season start made by PT, due to his WFA coaching commitments,,,commitments fully endorsed by our club, at the time.
I'm not personally that impressed by any of his signings either,,,one ot two might progress next season, but wasn't it all about building a team too play the "Welsh way",,,, at that time? Quite where Ricky Lambert was to slot in to that system at the end of last August is puzzling,,,apart from the fact that even then, on the last day of the transfer window, the alarm bells were ringing.
In my opinion, RL was a desperate attempt to get the season going, after all, didn't PT and RL go back a long time?

As I said in my opening reply, his 11 game stint in charge was not great but I do not see why anyone would have any ill feeling towards him or be annoyed in reveling in his part in Brighton's success this season and impending Promotion.

Ricky Lambert was an awful singing, I said so myself at the time, many others thought the opposite. He was a panic buy, a name to appease the fans after the sales of Fabio and Marshall.

I am not saying that Trollope is totally innocent but for me he was always swimming against the tide with the way our Club was being run from above and as has been stated elsewhere he was just a yes man.

But, when all is said and done, I blame Tan and the board more than I do Trollope, but that's just my personal opinion. How was he supposed to built a Squad and get a team bond going when his two best players were sold from under him and others constantly linked with moves away if a bid came in, the uncertainty must surely have had a negative effect on the whole squad, it was no way to run a Club, his position was constantly undermined from the start.

......................Trollope showed no passion and I cannot remember any attempt to try and gel with the fans.

Warnock comes in, under same restrictions, gels with fans and achieves far more.

Agree Trollope is a number 2 - in more ways than one

He is a quality coach but management material definitely not. Good luck to him he ain't a bad bloke just a shite manager lol mind you he has Big Russ as his mentor no wonder it turned out shite for him.

Maybe city fans on here don't rate him but Houghton obviously does as he chose him as his no2! As far as can see that wasn't a bad decision as most successful managers have a good no2 beside them.

Maybe city fans on here don't rate him but Houghton obviously does as he chose him as his no2! As far as can see that wasn't a bad decision as most successful managers have a good no2 beside them.

Doesn't say much for Trollope's number two then does it?

Even if he was in charge when we got promoted to the Championship.

Maybe city fans on here don't rate him but Houghton obviously does as he chose him as his no2! As far as can see that wasn't a bad decision as most successful managers have a good no2 beside them.

Doesn't say much for Trollope's number two then does it?

Even if he was in charge when we got promoted to the Championship.

Said most!!! which no2 is that? Memory not that good

Good luck to him. Don't know him personally but comes over as a 'modern' tickbox theory coach who is effective at what he does but needs a proper man-manager to work under. Whatever happened to bovril, jumpers for goalposts and half-time fags and oranges?

Watched the Brighton v QPR game last night and I believe Brighton thoroughly deserve to get promoted.

I would prefer them to go up as champions over Newcastle.

What did annoy me was seeing Trollope reveling in the glory after his poor attempt at management with us.

Of recent managers I think he was the worst we have had and I think of all those points we lost under him.

All the very best to Brighton but as for Trollope, his name matches his leadership qualities.

Why shouldn't he revel in the glory that Brighton are achieving?
He's helped them become top of the Championship with an almost certainty of promotion to the premier league!
Do you think he should be sulking? He was shite for us but seems to cut it as a coach so good luck to him I say.

Don't see why Trollope reveling in what Brighton are achieving now would annoy you to be honest? Good luck to him I say, his 11 game stint as Manager here was not great but it is very easy to forget everything else that was going on around the Club during his period in charge. IMO some of his signings have been very good and I believe they will go on and do well for us in the future. I am not saying he is the next Jose Mourinho but in my opinion he is an easy target when a lot of the blame for our start of the season lies from above.

The opening programme notes for our first home game of the season tell you that there was great enthusiasm, and hope of a successful season ahead,,,only for it to very quickly evaporate into one of despair,,,and desperation.

We had a bad start,,,,mainly due to a late pre season start made by PT, due to his WFA coaching commitments,,,commitments fully endorsed by our club, at the time.
I'm not personally that impressed by any of his signings either,,,one ot two might progress next season, but wasn't it all about building a team too play the "Welsh way",,,, at that time? Quite where Ricky Lambert was to slot in to that system at the end of last August is puzzling,,,apart from the fact that even then, on the last day of the transfer window, the alarm bells were ringing.
In my opinion, RL was a desperate attempt to get the season going, after all, didn't PT and RL go back a long time?

PT and RL were together at Bristol Rovers. Best of luck to Trollope, just didn't work out for him at the City. We do need a good pre-season thus year, though!