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" NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:39 am

Theresa May never asked for it, our country by a majority did, So I agree with Theresa May, Now is the time to you unite and get on with it and that's how the UK will be very successful :thumbright:

If Scotland continue to drag us all down, then let them go. We need the UK as one, not divided :thumbright:

The only way we will be successful is if we are together,it's happening so no point trying to stop it :thumbright:


Article 50: May signs letter that will trigger Brexit


Wednesday 29th March 2017

Theresa May signs the letter to the EU confirming the UK's departure

Theresa May has signed the letter that will formally begin the UK's departure from the European Union.

Giving official notice under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, it will be delivered to European Council president Donald Tusk later.

In a statement in the Commons, the prime minister will then tell MPs this marks "the moment for the country to come together".

It follows June's referendum which resulted in a vote to leave the EU.
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Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:30 am

RULE BRITANNIA :occasion5:

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:03 am

Yep, let's get on with it. :thumbup:

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:30 am

Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.

Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:34 am

AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.

Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".



I am on about Unite about Brexit and by being together Britain looks and can act stronger :thumbright:

But I would not want Coburg leading us

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:48 am

Forever Blue wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.

Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".



I am on about Unite about Brexit and by being together Britain looks and can act stronger :thumbright:

But I would not want Coburg leading us


As a remain voter, I really hope we make a good go of it. I get stick from a few on here for being a lefty etc but would love to see the UK Unite for this cause. I do not see us getting what the Leave side wants though, and do not feel David Davies is best for the job as Brexit Secretary.

Let's hope they represent 100% of the nation, and not just 52%.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:55 am

I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.

We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.

However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.

I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.

Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.

To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.

I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.

Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:11 am

AfanBluebird wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.

Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".



I am on about Unite about Brexit and by being together Britain looks and can act stronger :thumbright:

But I would not want Coburg leading us


As a remain voter, I really hope we make a good go of it. I get stick from a few on here for being a lefty etc but would love to see the UK Unite for this cause. I do not see us getting what the Leave side wants though, and do not feel David Davies is best for the job as Brexit Secretary.

Let's hope they represent 100% of the nation, and not just 52%.


The reason why remain voters get stick is because of their constant moaning about the referendum result and the calls for a second go. They claim us BREXIT voters are all 'thick' and don't understanding what we voted for.

I never once believed the NHS would received an extra £350mpw if we left the EU, in the same way I never believed WW3 would have started by now. That's called electioneering and both sides put a big spin on things, just like they do with any election because that is the only way to stay in the game.

That's why if we had a second referendum we would get the same result 52-48 as re-moaner project fear Mark II would deliver the same result as project fear Mark I.

Also I don't think left wing voters all voted to remain. I am a Labour Party member and I voted to leave. EU membership has be devastating for the working class as free movement has seen more pressure put on housing, education and health.

Whilst 'some' EU migrants work in the NHS/Schools and Housing they are just a small fraction of the overall numbers who come here. If we gain control of our own borders then we can still invite NHS workers to come here whilst excluding those we don't need, including criminals.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:17 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.

Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".



I am on about Unite about Brexit and by being together Britain looks and can act stronger :thumbright:

But I would not want Coburg leading us


As a remain voter, I really hope we make a good go of it. I get stick from a few on here for being a lefty etc but would love to see the UK Unite for this cause. I do not see us getting what the Leave side wants though, and do not feel David Davies is best for the job as Brexit Secretary.

Let's hope they represent 100% of the nation, and not just 52%.


The reason why remain voters get stick is because of their constant moaning about the referendum result and the calls for a second go. They claim us BREXIT voters are all 'thick' and don't understanding what we voted for.

I never once believed the NHS would received an extra £350mpw if we left the EU, in the same way I never believed WW3 would have started by now. That's called electioneering and both sides put a big spin on things, just like they do with any election because that is the only way to stay in the game.

That's why if we had a second referendum we would get the same result 52-48 as re-moaner project fear Mark II would deliver the same result as project fear Mark I.

Also I don't think left wing voters all voted to remain. I am a Labour Party member and I voted to leave. EU membership has be devastating for the working class as free movement has seen more pressure put on housing, education and health.

Whilst 'some' EU migrants work in the NHS/Schools and Housing they are just a small fraction of the overall numbers who come here. If we gain control of our own borders then we can still invite NHS workers to come here whilst excluding those we don't need, including criminals.


We already had control over our own borders though Tony. We will never have full border control in this country, ever. What we had was border checks in France done by British border control workers, now we may lose that benefit.

"Re-moaners" is used far to often to try and have a dig when all I see is the Leavers moaning about the remainers wanting to have a say. Yes they/we may have lost, but we still pay tax and need representing in the negotiations.

Whether the Leave campaign like it or not, the decisions of this country going forward can't be let to just the 52%, it needs to be left to the 100%.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:27 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.

We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.

However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.

I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.

Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.

To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.

I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.

Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.


I can honestly say that is the best post I have read on this subject, excellent thinking with added common sense :thumbup:
Well put Tony.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:02 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.

We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.

However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.

I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.

Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.

To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.

I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.

Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.



Well well Tony,you're always someone that comes across with a balanced view on most subjects but on this that balance seems to have well departed.I think you'll find on most issues the people that lose a vote have a bit of a moan which is there right and shouldn't be shouted down for it.I voted remain but like our Prime Minister accept that the wish to leave prevailed and now we must do our utmost to make sure we get the best possible outcome which does not include not paying up on any outstanding commitments however unpalatable they may seem to us.The argument you make on our outstanding debts and commitments reminds me of the guy who wants to get fit so he joins a gym in January,signs on the dotted for 12mths subscription,then defaults in March owing money that he's signed up to give.Remember you voted for Brexit and won but not for the way in which we leave.Those who think we can now stick 2 fingers up to the EU and just walk away are sadly deluded if they think theres no price to pay.Would you trade with anyone who walks away from their commitments when it suits them.How could you trust them not to do the same to you?

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:16 pm

powysblue wrote:RULE BRITANNIA :occasion5:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Those days have long gone.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:30 pm

Time to unite? Lovely sense of irony and leave Rule Brittania to drongo, right wing England fans......Scottish parliament votes for a referendum on independence which could yet happen despite May's dictatorial manner. N.Ireland government in chaos after their First Minister was involved in fraud and didn't resign. Our own nation ruled by a moribund Labour party , who are definitely Remainers.
The one thing guaranteed is there'll be no unity in this Disunited Kingdom.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:53 pm

Interesting word from the unelected Prime Minister.

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:56 pm

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Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:34 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.

We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.

However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.

I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.

Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.

To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.

I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.

Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.


Good post as always Tony and I must say I agree with everything you say there however, back in 2013 the then UK Government agreed an EU Budget through until 2020, and as a very minimum the UK MUST honour ALL commitments we agreed to within that Budget. So are we faced with a "Divorce" bill or just the cost of meeting our obligations and, if it's the latter then we will continue to make contributions for a further 3 years irrespective of this "2 Year" negotiation period.

In my opinion this is where the 60b euro bill the EU Commission is talking about however, this is of course a "Gross" figure and as we MUST honour our obligations the EU must do the same and continue our "Rebate" and continue to fund every area of UK expenditure already agreed within the current Budget.

As you point out within this whole process will be compensation to the UK for our share of the "Joint" assets and that will be a sizeable chunk of money. Notwithstanding a Free Trade Agreement with the EU we will benefit from the Import Tariffs on goods currently imported into the UK from Non EU countries, at the moment the UK gets to keep just 20% of this with the other 80% going straight to EU commission. With or without an agreement when we eventually leave the EU we WILL continue to Trade with the block and if it's on the basis of WTO tariffs then the money raised can be used by the UK Government to fund whatever they wish. It's ALL part of "TAKING BACK CONTROL" and in my opinion is at the very core of why I voted LEAVE.

This will be a long, complicated and drawn out process but I look forward to the day when we leave the Brussels Bureaucrats to the history books.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:27 am

Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:11 am

nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?



Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all :thumbright:

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:34 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?



Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all :thumbright:


Now, by country, would that be Spain? :wave:

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:54 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Theresa May never asked for it, our country by a majority did, So I agree with Theresa May, Now is the time to you unite and get on with it and that's how the UK will be very successful :thumbright:

If Scotland continue to drag us all down, then let them go. We need the UK as one, not divided :thumbright:

The only way we will be successful is if we are together,it's happening so no point trying to stop it :thumbright:


Article 50: May signs letter that will trigger Brexit


Wednesday 29th March 2017

Theresa May signs the letter to the EU confirming the UK's departure

Theresa May has signed the letter that will formally begin the UK's departure from the European Union.

Giving official notice under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, it will be delivered to European Council president Donald Tusk later.

In a statement in the Commons, the prime minister will then tell MPs this marks "the moment for the country to come together".

It follows June's referendum which resulted in a vote to leave the EU.

The Liberal elite will never unite behind Brexit,they are totally addicted to all things Europe,as for the Referendum vote,they only believe in democracy when it suits their agenda

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:49 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Theresa May never asked for it, our country by a majority did, So I agree with Theresa May, Now is the time to you unite and get on with it and that's how the UK will be very successful :thumbright:

If Scotland continue to drag us all down, then let them go. We need the UK as one, not divided :thumbright:

The only way we will be successful is if we are together,it's happening so no point trying to stop it :thumbright:


Article 50: May signs letter that will trigger Brexit


Wednesday 29th March 2017

Theresa May signs the letter to the EU confirming the UK's departure

Theresa May has signed the letter that will formally begin the UK's departure from the European Union.

Giving official notice under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, it will be delivered to European Council president Donald Tusk later.

In a statement in the Commons, the prime minister will then tell MPs this marks "the moment for the country to come together".

It follows June's referendum which resulted in a vote to leave the EU.

The Liberal elite will never unite behind Brexit,they are totally addicted to all things Europe,as for the Referendum vote,they only believe in democracy when it suits their agenda

Totally agree

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:32 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.

We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.

However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.

I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.

Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.

To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.

I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.

Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.


Minor detail but Northern Ireland was also pretty unanimous in it's wish to remain.

The UK hasn't been united for a very long time, and it'll be a very long time before it is again, if ever!

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:26 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?



Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all :thumbright:


Now, by country, would that be Spain? :wave:


:lol:

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:47 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?



Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all :thumbright:


Now, by country, would that be Spain? :wave:


Still pay my taxes to the UK :thumbright: :D

I hope you do :D :D

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:48 pm

Double G wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?



Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all :thumbright:


Now, by country, would that be Spain? :wave:


:lol:




Still pay my taxes to the UK :thumbright: :D

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:32 pm

With the biggest remain vote of all of the UK and the country that gets little or no mention in any of the discussions, I for one can not unite when your sat in a queue for hours trying to cross a.border in the heat of the sun just to go about your normal business - it ain't fun

I am convinced if the referendum had been based on fact evidence not fantasy from both sides I do believe we would have had a different outcome !

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:38 pm

Dobbin wrote:With the biggest remain vote of all of the UK and the country that gets little or no mention in any of the discussions, I for one can not unite when your sat in a queue for hours trying to cross a.border in the heat of the sun just to go about your normal business - it ain't fun

I am convinced if the referendum had been based on fact evidence not fantasy from both sides I do believe we would have had a different outcome !

Fact? What like all the lies on the remain side ?wheres the property crash , emergency budget ? Back of the que ? No one would want trade deals with us ? Whay about the lies about eu laws on avwrage tgeceu have made over 1400 laws per year for the last 44 years

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:55 pm

Typo meant factual evidence

And if you read my post it was on both sides

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:15 pm

Dobbin wrote:Typo meant factual evidence

And if you read my post it was on both sides

I honestly think that the way the eu have acted since the vote that the margin would be higher in favour of leaving,people were fed project fear which was nonsense and the economic predictions have all been wrong even the bank of England and the imf have admitted they have got it wrong

Re: " NOW IS THE TIME TO UNITE "

Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:56 pm

It's a sad reality that since the Referendum, ALOT of people I've spoken to have said they would change their votes (for both sides). Both sides were fed lies, Farage is STILL unelected but is acting high and mighty.

As said before, how can a country Unite when 48% feel as though they are not being represented in negotiations.

IF :
Scotland get its independence
Ireland Unites

Where that that leave the "UNITED KINGDOM"?, more importantly, where will that leave Wales when our population is only 3 times bigger than England's 2nd biggest city and 2 times smaller than their biggest. Wales as a nation got £7 per head, for every £1 every citizen put in. I am not one of these people who wants a rerun of events, just want equal representation. She (PM) needs to represents 100%, not 52%. :thumbright: