Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:39 am
Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:30 am
Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:03 am
Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:30 am
Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:34 am
AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.
Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".
Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:48 am
Forever Blue wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.
Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".
I am on about Unite about Brexit and by being together Britain looks and can act stronger![]()
But I would not want Coburg leading us
Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:55 am
Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:11 am
AfanBluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.
Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".
I am on about Unite about Brexit and by being together Britain looks and can act stronger![]()
But I would not want Coburg leading us
As a remain voter, I really hope we make a good go of it. I get stick from a few on here for being a lefty etc but would love to see the UK Unite for this cause. I do not see us getting what the Leave side wants though, and do not feel David Davies is best for the job as Brexit Secretary.
Let's hope they represent 100% of the nation, and not just 52%.
Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:17 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:AfanBluebird wrote:Agree with the Unite, but under a Tory Government this country will never be United. To much alienating the poor and vulnerable.
Ps. Nigel Farage quote from an interview yesterday sums it up for me. "If it fails, I'll move abroad".
I am on about Unite about Brexit and by being together Britain looks and can act stronger![]()
But I would not want Coburg leading us
As a remain voter, I really hope we make a good go of it. I get stick from a few on here for being a lefty etc but would love to see the UK Unite for this cause. I do not see us getting what the Leave side wants though, and do not feel David Davies is best for the job as Brexit Secretary.
Let's hope they represent 100% of the nation, and not just 52%.
The reason why remain voters get stick is because of their constant moaning about the referendum result and the calls for a second go. They claim us BREXIT voters are all 'thick' and don't understanding what we voted for.
I never once believed the NHS would received an extra £350mpw if we left the EU, in the same way I never believed WW3 would have started by now. That's called electioneering and both sides put a big spin on things, just like they do with any election because that is the only way to stay in the game.
That's why if we had a second referendum we would get the same result 52-48 as re-moaner project fear Mark II would deliver the same result as project fear Mark I.
Also I don't think left wing voters all voted to remain. I am a Labour Party member and I voted to leave. EU membership has be devastating for the working class as free movement has seen more pressure put on housing, education and health.
Whilst 'some' EU migrants work in the NHS/Schools and Housing they are just a small fraction of the overall numbers who come here. If we gain control of our own borders then we can still invite NHS workers to come here whilst excluding those we don't need, including criminals.
Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:27 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.
We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.
However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.
I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.
Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.
To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.
I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.
Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.
Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:02 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.
We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.
However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.
I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.
Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.
To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.
I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.
Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.
Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:16 pm
powysblue wrote:RULE BRITANNIA
Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:30 pm
Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:53 pm
Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:56 pm
Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:34 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.
We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.
However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.
I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.
Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.
To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.
I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.
Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.
Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:27 am
Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:11 am
nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?
Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:34 pm
Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?
Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all
Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:54 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Theresa May never asked for it, our country by a majority did, So I agree with Theresa May, Now is the time to you unite and get on with it and that's how the UK will be very successful![]()
If Scotland continue to drag us all down, then let them go. We need the UK as one, not divided![]()
The only way we will be successful is if we are together,it's happening so no point trying to stop it![]()
Article 50: May signs letter that will trigger Brexit
Wednesday 29th March 2017
Theresa May signs the letter to the EU confirming the UK's departure
Theresa May has signed the letter that will formally begin the UK's departure from the European Union.
Giving official notice under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, it will be delivered to European Council president Donald Tusk later.
In a statement in the Commons, the prime minister will then tell MPs this marks "the moment for the country to come together".
It follows June's referendum which resulted in a vote to leave the EU.
Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:49 pm
angelis1949 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Theresa May never asked for it, our country by a majority did, So I agree with Theresa May, Now is the time to you unite and get on with it and that's how the UK will be very successful![]()
If Scotland continue to drag us all down, then let them go. We need the UK as one, not divided![]()
The only way we will be successful is if we are together,it's happening so no point trying to stop it![]()
Article 50: May signs letter that will trigger Brexit
Wednesday 29th March 2017
Theresa May signs the letter to the EU confirming the UK's departure
Theresa May has signed the letter that will formally begin the UK's departure from the European Union.
Giving official notice under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, it will be delivered to European Council president Donald Tusk later.
In a statement in the Commons, the prime minister will then tell MPs this marks "the moment for the country to come together".
It follows June's referendum which resulted in a vote to leave the EU.
The Liberal elite will never unite behind Brexit,they are totally addicted to all things Europe,as for the Referendum vote,they only believe in democracy when it suits their agenda
Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:32 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:I never quite know what people mean by 'unite' when it comes to situations like this? There will always be people with agenda's such as the odious Nick Clegg and Tim Farron who want us to fail so they can have their 'I told you so' moment.
We all have our opinions and the 48% who voted against BREXIT won't magically convert to radical leavers overnight.
However, I voted to leave and accept that re-moaners are a fact of life and we have to make a success of leaving the EU despite of them.
I also agree that a 'no deal' is better than a 'bad deal'. Appeasing the EU has got us nowhere over the past 45 years and that isn't going to change over the next 2. If they want a divorce bill then we should deduct the £9billion we have in the EU Investment Bank and any amounts we are owed for jointly owned assets such as those multi million pound EU buildings in Brussels.
Not to mention that by the time we exit the EU we would have paid in over £30billion since the referendum in 2016.
To me it is simple if there is no deal and WTO tariffs are imposed then we will take in far more in tariffs than we will pay the other way. Use that money to compensate our industries who are hit the hardest by tariffs whilst finding new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world.
I personally think this is the beginning of the end for the EU and other countries will also leave even if the domino effect will take time to kick in. France could have Le Pen as President soon and there will be a massive anti-immigration vote in Germany later this year.
Scotland should get a vote on Independence and if they vote to go then best of luck to them. But we can't have the tail wagging the dog as the rest of the UK voted out. Indeed take Scotland out of the equation and the 52-48 split becomes bigger in favour of leaving.
Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:26 pm
BlueGog wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?
Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all
Now, by country, would that be Spain?
Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:47 pm
BlueGog wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?
Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all
Now, by country, would that be Spain?
Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:48 pm
Double G wrote:BlueGog wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:Is there any action or definition behind the word 'unite' used in this context? Or is it just a pumped up word to make us feel all patriotic and proud?
Jack, our Countries need to be a United front to look strong in this Brexit and get the best for us all
Now, by country, would that be Spain?
Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:32 pm
Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:38 pm
Dobbin wrote:With the biggest remain vote of all of the UK and the country that gets little or no mention in any of the discussions, I for one can not unite when your sat in a queue for hours trying to cross a.border in the heat of the sun just to go about your normal business - it ain't fun
I am convinced if the referendum had been based on fact evidence not fantasy from both sides I do believe we would have had a different outcome !
Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:55 pm
Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:15 pm
Dobbin wrote:Typo meant factual evidence
And if you read my post it was on both sides
Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:56 pm