Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:36 am
' REMEMBER THESE ARE SOME OF CARDIFF CITY'S MAIN PLAYERS '
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' REMEMBER THESE ARE SOME OF CARDIFF CITY'S MAIN PLAYERS '
Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:20 am
RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:23 am
Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:25 am
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:54 am
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:02 am
llan bluebird wrote:WTF is the Halford thing all about ?
If Vinny's committee had bought a self confessed medical mess there would be anarchy on here........
Warnock estimated he could get away with it and he will. Lots of players now know they are not in his plans next season and can try to get their own moves organised.
This is also why he had to be brutal with the U23 team. They should be able to supply replacements of the necessary quality, we should have at least one kid who may make the grade.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:07 am
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:08 am
RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:10 am
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:12 am
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:13 am
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:24 am
castleblue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.
When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.
Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:26 am
Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:34 am
Forever Blue wrote:Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing
Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects![]()
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:37 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing
Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects![]()
I agree with you both. We know that between FFP and the fact that there is no money available due to existing debts, it will be impossible for Warnock to get much backing without getting rid of unwanted players first. This is where he will need to be clever, our unwanted players are not likely to raise much money, and therefore he will be very limited in what he can spend. Our wage structure will be very rigid, and if we want quality players they are going to cost a fair bit in wages. Will be difficult to attract them here if other clubs are able to offer them a much bigger monthly payday. I don't think things will be as straightforward as some fans think, but I guess if you were to choose one person who may make a half decent go of things with zero money, Warnock would be towards the top of your list. Going to be tough.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:55 am
castleblue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.
When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.
Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:59 am
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:castleblue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.
When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.
Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".
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That's beside the point though. It was a massive gamble leaving the squad depth this thin, even getting shut of youngsters. With the change of playing style and the intensity he demand, he can count himself lucky it didn't bite him in the ass in a relegation battle. Now we are on the safer side, but the buck stops with him. He is the manager after all. He still has a massive job to clear out the big wages, so in my opinion it's not realistic talking promotion next year either.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:03 am
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:07 am
caerblue wrote:Ain't it part warnocks fault we are down to a thin squad??,he let players leave on loan,surely he could have Inserted a recall clause in the contracts,to cover himself in this situation
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:11 am
Forever Blue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:castleblue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.
When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.
Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".
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That's beside the point though. It was a massive gamble leaving the squad depth this thin, even getting shut of youngsters. With the change of playing style and the intensity he demand, he can count himself lucky it didn't bite him in the ass in a relegation battle. Now we are on the safer side, but the buck stops with him. He is the manager after all. He still has a massive job to clear out the big wages, so in my opinion it's not realistic talking promotion next year either.
The reason the squad is so thin is the Committee demanded it,due to the current financial crisis our club is in.
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:13 am
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:castleblue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.
When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.
Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".
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That's beside the point though. It was a massive gamble leaving the squad depth this thin, even getting shut of youngsters. With the change of playing style and the intensity he demand, he can count himself lucky it didn't bite him in the ass in a relegation battle. Now we are on the safer side, but the buck stops with him. He is the manager after all. He still has a massive job to clear out the big wages, so in my opinion it's not realistic talking promotion next year either.
The reason the squad is so thin is the Committee demanded it,due to the current financial crisis our club is in.
Thought they demanded a budget cut, not a thin squad.
I know several players are difficult to offload, and some might not be. It was a gamble from Warnock, and he made it, just. Most of Malky and Oles signings need to go, if ever wanting to balance the books. Do you think this makes it realistic taking promotion next year? Seem to me like we might have this discussion again in two years
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:21 am
Forever Blue wrote:Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing
Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects![]()
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:42 am
Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:43 am
troobloo3339 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing
Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects![]()
So is it our owner not backing Warnock
Or are you saying they can't back him becouse of ffp
Becouse if it's ffp we can't knock the owners
If it's ffp we need to get more money in
Season tickets,sponsorship ,advertising ,merchandising, etc
Season tickets and merchandising is down to the fans
Sponsorship and advertising is down to the club
However would you advertise or sponsor a club who's fans constantly moan about anything and everything
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:46 am
troobloo3339 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing
Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects![]()
So is it our owner not backing Warnock
Or are you saying they can't back him becouse of ffp
Becouse if it's ffp we can't knock the owners
If it's ffp we need to get more money in
Season tickets,sponsorship ,advertising ,merchandising, etc
Season tickets and merchandising is down to the fans
Sponsorship and advertising is down to the club
However would you advertise or sponsor a club who's fans constantly moan about anything and everything
Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:48 pm
castleblue wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.
48 points will keep us in the Championship next season Rick - Trust me.![]()
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:06 pm
llangainbluebird wrote:castleblue wrote:RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.
48 points will keep us in the Championship next season Rick - Trust me.![]()
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Agreed, we are probably okay, but Peterborough went down with 54 points, and Wolves with 51, a couple of seasons ago. Best to get Rick's three wins asap, to avoid any nervousness in the last few games.