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' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:36 am

I said in January Warnock will need to stregthen as what happens if we get injuries and we were already carrying some injuries and Warnock had to offload players.

Craig Noone was being offloaded but Warnock had to call it of at the last moment as he realised he had not enough fit players etc

' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

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http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/03/1 ... l-warnock/ :thumbright: :bluebird:

Neil Warnock last night told the press,"it really is bad for us at this current time"

"That won't happen next season,I won't let it"

:bluebird: ' REMEMBER THESE ARE SOME OF CARDIFF CITY'S MAIN PLAYERS ' :bluebird:

" Cardiff City's full injury list "

Lee Peltier out for a long period

Rhys Healey out for over 9 months

Rickie Lambert long term back injury

Bruno Manga out for another few weeks

Matthew Connolly carrying an injury

Greg Halford came to Cardiff unfit & carrying injury

Aron Gunnarsson had a bad virus and not fully fit..

Kadeem Harris not fully fit

Adding to this Neil Warnock had to release 10 of the oldest DVP players who could of been called up.

Plus Warnock had to offload other players.


http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/03/1 ... l-warnock/ :bluebird:

Warnock was unable to strengthen the team in January,due to lack of funds and thats why injured Greg Halford was signed as he was free.


The Cardiff manager was forced to name just six substitutes for his side's clash with Blackburn Rovers at Ewood Park in midweek.

Warnock said his side, who lost Greg Halford in the second half of the draw with Birmingham through injury, " We will now have to limp our way towards the finishing line before we can rebuild in the summer and I need our fans fully behind us"

Neil Warnock said

"Kadeem should not have been on the bench, Gunnarsson was not fully fit and Zohore should've come off with about 15 minutes to go but what could we do."

"That won't happen next season,I won't let it"

"I don't know if anybody's going to be back at all but thank god it's the international break. We're a bit decimated at the moment."

"We didn't have tat little bit of zip around the box. We missed Kadeem. The doctor said to him last night he wasn't going to be involved at all. All credit to the lads, they've given everything for me."

"We've got to bite our tongue and get on with it. It looks like we're going to limp over the line."

"Obviously I'm disappointed as I was the other night, but I can't fault the effort, it was super."


Warnock also said

"I expected a bit more from Birmingham with the money they've spent."

"We should've come away with the points.

"It was a goal kick that they scored from. There was a mix up of four of five different things that happened. We've got a lot to learn because it's a game we should have won."

"Ken (Zohore) is still learning, he's got to learn the other side of the game rather than just fantastic goals. And their goal was the only time they had any real pressure."

"We were never going to have a good game because it takes two to have a good game."


Up next Ipswich home next Saturday :thumb right:



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Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:40 am

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2017/03/1 ... l-warnock/ :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:58 am

With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:18 am

:bluebird: ' REMEMBER THESE ARE SOME OF CARDIFF CITY'S MAIN PLAYERS ' :bluebird:

" Cardiff City's full injury list "

Lee Peltier out for a long period

Rhys Healey out for over 9 months

Rickie Lambert long term back injury

Bruno Manga out for another few weeks

Matthew Connolly carrying an injury

Greg Halford came to Cardiff unfit & carrying injury

Aron Gunnarsson had a bad virus and not fully fit..

Kadeem Harris not fully fit

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:20 am

RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.


Rick, its been tough for Warnock and I don't think some appreciate how tough its been with not many players available.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:23 am

The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:25 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.


Warnock was told to reduce wage bill ASAP and thats why so many players went out on loan, a fact.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:54 am

WTF is the Halford thing all about ?

If Vinny's committee had bought a self confessed medical mess there would be anarchy on here........

Warnock estimated he could get away with it and he will. Lots of players now know they are not in his plans next season and can try to get their own moves organised.

This is also why he had to be brutal with the U23 team. They should be able to supply replacements of the necessary quality, we should have at least one kid who may make the grade.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:02 am

llan bluebird wrote:WTF is the Halford thing all about ?

If Vinny's committee had bought a self confessed medical mess there would be anarchy on here........

Warnock estimated he could get away with it and he will. Lots of players now know they are not in his plans next season and can try to get their own moves organised.

This is also why he had to be brutal with the U23 team. They should be able to supply replacements of the necessary quality, we should have at least one kid who may make the grade.


I agree, its sad when a manager like Neil Warnock has to bring in free transfers,injured, but will give everything for him.
I really can't believe how lucky our club is to have a proven manager like Warnock and has saved us from certain relegation with virtually no money available.

At least next season Warnock will have his own team and fully backed by our committee :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:




Greg Halford:

"I was advised to have an operation but I’ve always been a quick healer and it was the first injury to my ankle so I thought I just deal with it.”

Neil Warnock is fazing out the 'gravy train' culture at Cardiff City as Bluebirds seek value for money

Only one more appearance for the Millers followed before Warnock came calling for a player involved in Rotherham’s great escape from Championship relegation the previous season and was able to take Halford on a free transfer.


“It’s certainly helped knowing the manager, and Blacky (Kevin Blackwell) who was my manager at Sheffield United,” said the well-travelled, well spoken Halford. “They and the medical staff have been great with me. I think most people would have failed the medical, but they knew what I could bring to the team. When they got it over the line, I think they knew it would take me time to get ready so I was grateful for their perseverance.”

Halford has hardly looked back in terms of his involvement, although it would be wrong to say he has ripped up trees with his form. It could be argued his movement around the pitch – full-back, centre defence and central midfield all filled at various times – does not help him get into a rhythm, but clearly Halford believes he has more to offer once he is truly fit.

“I probably came back too early,” he admits. “It’s still there. It’s been frustrating – since I joined there’s been certain movements I’ve not liked doing and it’s played on my mind. Just striking the ball over 30 yards, well, I just couldn’t do it. It’s only over the last three weeks I’ve been able to start doing it. It’s still there and I’m probably only playing 70-75%.


Halford admits he's only been playing at 70-75% or Cardiff so far


“I can be ignorant, I don’t like saying no, so if a manager came up to me when I had the worst flu in the world and asked if i was OK, I’d say I was fine to play. It’s something I’ve grown up with, I just want to play, but as you get older you learn if you’re not 100% you can hinder the team.

“It’s about finding the middle ground and every day I feel stronger, I feel fitter, and hopefully I can keep going – I don’t want the season to end because I feel I’m getting to the fitness I need to be.

“I’m getting stronger and I feel like I’m getting to the form I need to be to be in the team and playing.”

And showing he can be a key part of plans next season, something Halford is excited about as he chases a return to the Premier League after spells with Reading, Sunderland and Wolves.
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:07 am

Not that bad, we should have won yesterday we didn't lose 5- 0. We have had players like Magna and lambert injured for a while but the were not in the first team normally anyway. Think Bennett is better than Connelly overall. Noone and Halford are regular bench warmers so who exactly are we missing to make it bad. Pillkington ton has come back from injury. The team yesterday apart from Harris was the first choice team .

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:08 am

RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.


48 points will keep us in the Championship next season Rick - Trust me. ;)



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Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:10 am

I think we'll be safe enough this season, not every team below us is going to have a good run of results over the remaining games. One or two wins should be fine for us.
Not sure about how we will perform next season. We know if we want to be serious challengers at least four or five quality players are needed. We will also need another goalkeeper. That means that Warnock has to get up to six quality replacements here before the season starts. That won't be easy with so little money to spend on purchases or wages, and we will be competing for these players with clubs who will be prepared to spend big. Going to be an interesting Summer.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:12 am

i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:13 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.



When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.

Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".


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Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:24 am

castleblue wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.



When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.

Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".


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Gary, Absolutely spot on :thumbright: :thumbright:


Our fans have such short memories.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:26 am

Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing


Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects :lol: :lol:

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:34 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing


Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects :lol: :lol:

I agree with you both. We know that between FFP and the fact that there is no money available due to existing debts, it will be impossible for Warnock to get much backing without getting rid of unwanted players first. This is where he will need to be clever, our unwanted players are not likely to raise much money, and therefore he will be very limited in what he can spend. Our wage structure will be very rigid, and if we want quality players they are going to cost a fair bit in wages. Will be difficult to attract them here if other clubs are able to offer them a much bigger monthly payday. I don't think things will be as straightforward as some fans think, but I guess if you were to choose one person who may make a half decent go of things with zero money, Warnock would be towards the top of your list. Going to be tough.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:37 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing


Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects :lol: :lol:

I agree with you both. We know that between FFP and the fact that there is no money available due to existing debts, it will be impossible for Warnock to get much backing without getting rid of unwanted players first. This is where he will need to be clever, our unwanted players are not likely to raise much money, and therefore he will be very limited in what he can spend. Our wage structure will be very rigid, and if we want quality players they are going to cost a fair bit in wages. Will be difficult to attract them here if other clubs are able to offer them a much bigger monthly payday. I don't think things will be as straightforward as some fans think, but I guess if you were to choose one person who may make a half decent go of things with zero money, Warnock would be towards the top of your list. Going to be tough.



100% exactly how I see it all Steve and you won't get another manager with the qualities like Warnock to take this quite impossible job on,with virtually zero backing from the owner.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:55 am

castleblue wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.



When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.

Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".


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That's beside the point though. It was a massive gamble leaving the squad depth this thin, even getting shut of youngsters. With the change of playing style and the intensity he demand, he can count himself lucky it didn't bite him in the ass in a relegation battle. Now we are on the safer side, but the buck stops with him. He is the manager after all. He still has a massive job to clear out the big wages, so in my opinion it's not realistic talking promotion next year either.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:59 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.



When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.

Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".


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That's beside the point though. It was a massive gamble leaving the squad depth this thin, even getting shut of youngsters. With the change of playing style and the intensity he demand, he can count himself lucky it didn't bite him in the ass in a relegation battle. Now we are on the safer side, but the buck stops with him. He is the manager after all. He still has a massive job to clear out the big wages, so in my opinion it's not realistic talking promotion next year either.


The reason the squad is so thin is the Committee demanded it,due to the current financial crisis our club is in.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:03 am

Ain't it part warnocks fault we are down to a thin squad??,he let players leave on loan,surely he could have Inserted a recall clause in the contracts,to cover himself in this situation

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Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:07 am

caerblue wrote:Ain't it part warnocks fault we are down to a thin squad??,he let players leave on loan,surely he could have Inserted a recall clause in the contracts,to cover himself in this situation


The Committee demanded the players leave to reduce our wages.
The reason the squad is so thin is the Committee demanded it,due to the current financial crisis our club is in.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:11 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.



When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.

Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

That's beside the point though. It was a massive gamble leaving the squad depth this thin, even getting shut of youngsters. With the change of playing style and the intensity he demand, he can count himself lucky it didn't bite him in the ass in a relegation battle. Now we are on the safer side, but the buck stops with him. He is the manager after all. He still has a massive job to clear out the big wages, so in my opinion it's not realistic talking promotion next year either.


The reason the squad is so thin is the Committee demanded it,due to the current financial crisis our club is in.

Thought they demanded a budget cut, not a thin squad.
I know several players are difficult to offload, and some might not be. It was a gamble from Warnock, and he made it, just. Most of Malky and Oles signings need to go, if ever wanting to balance the books. Do you think this makes it realistic talking promotion next year? Seem to me like we might have this discussion again in two years ;)

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:13 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
castleblue wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:The headline should be "how bad Warnock made it for himself".. Said as much when he sent every fringe player out on loan, and the squad had no depth. Injuries usually come in bulks at the end of the season, so we probably haven't seen the end of this yet. He made his bed.



When NW arrived every City fan would have accepted us finishing the season in 19th place. Thanks to his brilliance we WILL finish higher than that which will be a fantastic performance.

Few managers know this division as well as NW and he knew exactly what he was doing by cutting the wage bill in January. It was ALL about next season and the summer transfer window, saving money and "Keeping his powder dry until then".


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

That's beside the point though. It was a massive gamble leaving the squad depth this thin, even getting shut of youngsters. With the change of playing style and the intensity he demand, he can count himself lucky it didn't bite him in the ass in a relegation battle. Now we are on the safer side, but the buck stops with him. He is the manager after all. He still has a massive job to clear out the big wages, so in my opinion it's not realistic talking promotion next year either.


The reason the squad is so thin is the Committee demanded it,due to the current financial crisis our club is in.

Thought they demanded a budget cut, not a thin squad.
I know several players are difficult to offload, and some might not be. It was a gamble from Warnock, and he made it, just. Most of Malky and Oles signings need to go, if ever wanting to balance the books. Do you think this makes it realistic taking promotion next year? Seem to me like we might have this discussion again in two years ;)


How do you cut your budget?
By reducing your squad.

Honestly regarding next season, I am very very sceptical and will only believe it when it actually happens :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:21 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing


Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects :lol: :lol:


So is it our owner not backing Warnock
Or are you saying they can't back him becouse of ffp
Becouse if it's ffp we can't knock the owners
If it's ffp we need to get more money in
Season tickets,sponsorship ,advertising ,merchandising, etc
Season tickets and merchandising is down to the fans
Sponsorship and advertising is down to the club
However would you advertise or sponsor a club who's fans constantly moan about anything and everything

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:42 am

Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing

I think he will raise the 6 million in wages saved and sell a couple of players there is plenty of decent free agents in the summer he can choose from too

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:43 am

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troobloo3339 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing


Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects :lol: :lol:


So is it our owner not backing Warnock
Or are you saying they can't back him becouse of ffp
Becouse if it's ffp we can't knock the owners
If it's ffp we need to get more money in
Season tickets,sponsorship ,advertising ,merchandising, etc
Season tickets and merchandising is down to the fans
Sponsorship and advertising is down to the club
However would you advertise or sponsor a club who's fans constantly moan about anything and everything


Steve,

I am saying yes Warnock is backed or not backed it will be up to Tan.
The ffp is used when it suits us.
Look at the money wasted on On Rickie Lamber and Ben Amos etc etc

If they really want to find the money, I believe they can.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:46 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Double G wrote:i dont believe warnock will get as much backing as people on here think. be told to raise his own funds with squad we got. its just a season ticket ploy at moment saying their backing him. i was renewing wether backed or not, but think club is just being clever saying he got full backing, where as you look at ffp, it's virtually impossible to have any big backing


Gareth, I personally believe the same,but if I said it first I would be savaged by the usual suspects :lol: :lol:


So is it our owner not backing Warnock
Or are you saying they can't back him becouse of ffp
Becouse if it's ffp we can't knock the owners
If it's ffp we need to get more money in
Season tickets,sponsorship ,advertising ,merchandising, etc
Season tickets and merchandising is down to the fans
Sponsorship and advertising is down to the club
However would you advertise or sponsor a club who's fans constantly moan about anything and everything

I don't think sponsors give a hoot whether fans are moaning or not. All they want is their brand name to be on display, preferably on the television during live matches where they have the potential for 90 minutes advertising. Arsenal fans have been moaning for a number of years but that is not affecting their sponsorship deals to the best of my knowledge. Fans of all clubs who are not doing well will be moaning in the same way as our fans. It's human nature, everyone wants success for their team. Success for us as far as I am concerned is not dropping below Championship status.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:48 pm

castleblue wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.


48 points will keep us in the Championship next season Rick - Trust me. ;)



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Agreed, we are probably okay, but Peterborough went down with 54 points, and Wolves with 51, a couple of seasons ago. Best to get Rick's three wins asap, to avoid any nervousness in the last few games.

Re: ' HOW BAD IT REALLY IS FOR NEIL WARNOCK '

Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:06 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:
castleblue wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:With Four home games, & five away left, its going to be tough. I think we are going to need at least another three wins to be certain of Championship football next season.


48 points will keep us in the Championship next season Rick - Trust me. ;)



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Agreed, we are probably okay, but Peterborough went down with 54 points, and Wolves with 51, a couple of seasons ago. Best to get Rick's three wins asap, to avoid any nervousness in the last few games.


We need to beat Ipswich next Saturday, that's for sure. After that, for most of the remaining eight games, we have a mix of promotion & relegation contenders; Wolves (A) Sheffield W (A) Forest (H) Wigan (A) Newcastle (H) & lastly Huddersfield (A).