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Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:21 pm

A bit of an irrelevant post, but seeing Bergstaller score for Schalke last night in the Uefa Cup got me thinking.

Were Ole's signings that bad or was it just him as a manager? After seeing what Warnock has done with Zohore, where do you think we would be now if he took over from Ole instead of Slade and had Guerra, Bergstaller, Cala, Dahli etc to work with.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:57 pm

i notice Cornelius also scored, just to add to the pointless post

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:12 pm

Gavin wrote:i notice Cornelius also scored, just to add to the pointless post


I don't think Paul Daniels could have made him come good mind

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:22 pm

cs_original wrote:
Gavin wrote:i notice Cornelius also scored, just to add to the pointless post


I don't think Paul Daniels could have made him come good mind


he quite clearly is not terrible ,just not a 45k a wk player.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:35 pm

Well put it this way, Ole's transfer get criticised yet some of the players he signed only had a month of competitive games to play in.

Daelhi should have never been sold.

Eikrem I think had a lot more to show here.

Berget personally I don't think he was going to cut it.

Cala was a lose cannon and not good for the dressing room.

I think Burgstaller had good talent and would have been brilliant at this level, I was gutted to see him go because he played decent in the games he played.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:20 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Well put it this way, Ole's transfer get criticised yet some of the players he signed only had a month of competitive games to play in.

Daelhi should have never been sold.

Eikrem I think had a lot more to show here.

Berget personally I don't think he was going to cut it.

Cala was a lose cannon and not good for the dressing room.

I think Burgstaller had good talent and would have been brilliant at this level, I was gutted to see him go because he played decent in the games he played.


For me Eikrem was the best talent of the lot and would have been Whitts long term replacement.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:25 pm

Was a stunner of a goal too from the lad.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:44 pm

cs_original wrote:A bit of an irrelevant post, but seeing Bergstaller score for Schalke last night in the Uefa Cup got me thinking.

Were Ole's signings that bad or was it just him as a manager? After seeing what Warnock has done with Zohore, where do you think we would be now if he took over from Ole instead of Slade and had Guerra, Bergstaller, Cala, Dahli etc to work with.



lots of thoughtless rubbish written about Ole,s time here.
he joined during a relegation battle.no doubt some managers might have kept us up but others not.
then like all relegated sides you go through the process of your better players leaving. so a large turn over during the summer window is inevitable.
truth is during OGS time here the size of our squad increased by 1. transfer fees out were more than transfer fees in and squad wages were less when he left than when he arrived.
we lost 3 of our first 7 games { all to teams that achieved 78pts or more that season } and even Newcastle managed to lose 2 of their 1st 7 this year.
personally i didnt think he was right for the job but was infinitely better than the 2 that followed.
and nowhere near as bad as some seem to make out but never back up.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:00 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Well put it this way, Ole's transfer get criticised yet some of the players he signed only had a month of competitive games to play in.

Daelhi should have never been sold.

Eikrem I think had a lot more to show here.

Berget personally I don't think he was going to cut it.

Cala was a lose cannon and not good for the dressing room.

I think Burgstaller had good talent and would have been brilliant at this level, I was gutted to see him go because he played decent in the games he played.

Daehli was crap

Eikrem I agree

Berget I agree

Cala I agree

Burgstaller I never saw.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:19 pm

He had a great scouting network, possibly be good to have around as a coach.
Never a manager for me

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Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:46 pm

For me it always come across that ole didn't sign players we needed, he signed players that he wanted to but failed to do so at his previous club in hindsight he was an awful manager who only got the job because he played for UTD,

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Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:35 pm

Daehli and Burgstaller should be with us now, great talents. Guerra too :thumbup: Warnock might have treated these differently.

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Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:32 pm

Scored 2 today, scored a lot for them already.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:47 am

DandoCCFC wrote:Well put it this way, Ole's transfer get criticised yet some of the players he signed only had a month of competitive games to play in.

Daelhi should have never been sold.

Eikrem I think had a lot more to show here.

Berget personally I don't think he was going to cut it.

Cala was a lose cannon and not good for the dressing room.

I think Burgstaller had good talent and would have been brilliant at this level, I was gutted to see him go because he played decent in the games he played.



Agree with what you've said here. Especially regarding daehli. Although I don't think lack of talent was ever an issue under ole. The issue was fitting 47 players into 11, and then keeping the rest fit and motivated. It was a cluster f**k from the word go. I started to worry when it came to light we had TEN strikers in the squad.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:44 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Well put it this way, Ole's transfer get criticised yet some of the players he signed only had a month of competitive games to play in.

Daelhi should have never been sold.

Eikrem I think had a lot more to show here.

Berget personally I don't think he was going to cut it.

Cala was a lose cannon and not good for the dressing room.

I think Burgstaller had good talent and would have been brilliant at this level, I was gutted to see him go because he played decent in the games he played.


Daehli was incredibly overrated, great ball control but no end product, didn't do his defensive duties and couldn't physically handle the English leagues.

Eikrem couldn't step up to the pace or physicality of the English leagues, got dominated by his opponent in every game I saw him play. I would say he was a poor mans Whittingham, but after hitting an attempted spare pass out for a corner away at Sunderland, I'm not sure he was actually that good on the ball either!

Berget was a League 2 standard striker with very little quality.

Cala was a League 1 standard David Luiz, decent on the ball but couldn't defend, made countless mistakes like Sunderland away and was very rash with his decision making.

Burgstaller I would have kept because in the little I saw of him, I could see he was a worker with a good end product. He impressed in our first home game of the season against Huddersfield where he did some good things, some not so good things, but I could see there was ability there and I really thought he would keep improving if given a run.

Unfortunately, because of Ole's ridiculous rotation policy, no player could really get a decent run of games in the Championship to prove they were up to this level.

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:17 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Well put it this way, Ole's transfer get criticised yet some of the players he signed only had a month of competitive games to play in.

Daelhi should have never been sold.

Eikrem I think had a lot more to show here.

Berget personally I don't think he was going to cut it.

Cala was a lose cannon and not good for the dressing room.

I think Burgstaller had good talent and would have been brilliant at this level, I was gutted to see him go because he played decent in the games he played.


Daehli was incredibly overrated, great ball control but no end product, didn't do his defensive duties and couldn't physically handle the English leagues.

Eikrem couldn't step up to the pace or physicality of the English leagues, got dominated by his opponent in every game I saw him play. I would say he was a poor mans Whittingham, but after hitting an attempted spare pass out for a corner away at Sunderland, I'm not sure he was actually that good on the ball either!

Berget was a League 2 standard striker with very little quality.

Cala was a League 1 standard David Luiz, decent on the ball but couldn't defend, made countless mistakes like Sunderland away and was very rash with his decision making.

Burgstaller I would have kept because in the little I saw of him, I could see he was a worker with a good end product. He impressed in our first home game of the season against Huddersfield where he did some good things, some not so good things, but I could see there was ability there and I really thought he would keep improving if given a run.

Unfortunately, because of Ole's ridiculous rotation policy, no player could really get a decent run of games in the Championship to prove they were up to this level.


Speaking pure nonsense, the players mentioned were the same as Burgstaller we didn't see a lot of any of them.

Eikrem didn't have many games so to throw that opinion after based on what one game or two even?

I made the call on Berget just because you could sense there was nothing promising to come where the rest all had something.

Daelhi didn't do his defensive duties? We seen plenty a player here not do that, e.g Whitts until the past couple of seasons.

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Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:38 am

most of them wouldnt have been warnock type players in my opinion but burgstaller and guerra would have been given a chance and who knows we might have got back up,that boat has well and truely sailed tho

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:30 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Well put it this way, Ole's transfer get criticised yet some of the players he signed only had a month of competitive games to play in.

Daelhi should have never been sold.

Eikrem I think had a lot more to show here.

Berget personally I don't think he was going to cut it.

Cala was a lose cannon and not good for the dressing room.

I think Burgstaller had good talent and would have been brilliant at this level, I was gutted to see him go because he played decent in the games he played.


Daehli was incredibly overrated, great ball control but no end product, didn't do his defensive duties and couldn't physically handle the English leagues.

Eikrem couldn't step up to the pace or physicality of the English leagues, got dominated by his opponent in every game I saw him play. I would say he was a poor mans Whittingham, but after hitting an attempted spare pass out for a corner away at Sunderland, I'm not sure he was actually that good on the ball either!

Berget was a League 2 standard striker with very little quality.

Cala was a League 1 standard David Luiz, decent on the ball but couldn't defend, made countless mistakes like Sunderland away and was very rash with his decision making.

Burgstaller I would have kept because in the little I saw of him, I could see he was a worker with a good end product. He impressed in our first home game of the season against Huddersfield where he did some good things, some not so good things, but I could see there was ability there and I really thought he would keep improving if given a run.

Unfortunately, because of Ole's ridiculous rotation policy, no player could really get a decent run of games in the Championship to prove they were up to this level.



incredibly overated
correct,i didnt see him knock Scott Parker or Joey Barton about either or boss the midfield. youd swear he was a kid with only 7 profesional starts {in Norway }under his belt. :lol: :lol:

Re: Bergstaller scored last night - What if?

Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:06 pm

cs_original wrote:A bit of an irrelevant post, but seeing Bergstaller score for Schalke last night in the Uefa Cup got me thinking.

Were Ole's signings that bad or was it just him as a manager? After seeing what Warnock has done with Zohore, where do you think we would be now if he took over from Ole instead of Slade and had Guerra, Bergstaller, Cala, Dahli etc to work with.


Ole was out of his depth, shame really. But the players that he brought in were better than who we got now. Gutted wen these guys left