Trouble in Bristol today.

Today saw trouble between protesters and the police in Bristol city centre as a result of in my opinion a failed legal system.

Far right protesters gathered to show their anger at a one year prison sentence handed out to Kevin creehan. What did Kevin do? He left bacon sandwiches on the doorstep of a mosque in Bristol. Unfortunately Kevin died in prison in December.

I say a failed legal system as we see a white man handed this sentence but a group of Asians were spared court for offences that included burning poppies and the St.George flag but also signs threatening a war on the streets of the UK. Seem fair?

Kevin sentenced to prison for bacon sandwiches when an Asian man who sexually abused an 11 year old girl was spared a custodial sentence because hiswife couldn't speak English and the judge felt his family needed him.

As usual the left were there to start fights etc but answer me this A. Do the left think the sentence handed to Kevin was not harsh? I think it was. B. Why is it the left will turn up and protest today but not about poppy burners?

This legal system and Government failings are increasingly making community's more divided. People blame Brexit saying hate crimes have gone up but it's not brexit it's the injustice witnessed todaythat is causing problems on the streets.

All those burning poppies should have been imprisoned and/or deported immediately. The police/government here are scared of Muslims. That's an undeniable fact.

However, crehan was nothing less than a racist. Tying bacon to door handles of a mosque and shouting abuse at worshippers. Listen I think most of religion is utter bullocks, but live and let live. Don't wana get nicked? Don't racially abuse people. Reap what you sow.

Was the guy concerned these people are going hungry? If
so he should have realised Muslims don't eat pork

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Today saw trouble between protesters and the police in Bristol city centre as a result of in my opinion a failed legal system.

Far right protesters gathered to show their anger at a one year prison sentence handed out to Kevin creehan. What did Kevin do? He left bacon sandwiches on the doorstep of a mosque in Bristol. Unfortunately Kevin died in prison in December.

I say a failed legal system as we see a white man handed this sentence but a group of Asians were spared court for offences that included burning poppies and the St.George flag but also signs threatening a war on the streets of the UK. Seem fair?

Kevin sentenced to prison for bacon sandwiches when an Asian man who sexually abused an 11 year old girl was spared a custodial sentence because hiswife couldn't speak English and the judge felt his family needed him.

As usual the left were there to start fights etc but answer me this A. Do the left think the sentence handed to Kevin was not harsh? I think it was. B. Why is it the left will turn up and protest today but not about poppy burners?

This legal system and Government failings are increasingly making community's more divided. People blame Brexit saying hate crimes have gone up but it's not brexit it's the injustice witnessed todaythat is causing problems on the streets.

Did Kevin Creehan have any previous convictions which influenced the length of sentence he was given?

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

Where did you get that from? no one said that? Even Amos couldnt miss that point as spectacularly as you have.

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

Where did you get that from? no one said that? Even Amos couldnt miss that point as spectacularly as you have.

Maybe if you didn't pigeon hole people in right or left wing political categories your point would be clearer. You talk of irony because the "rightwing" are defending the poppy, then talk about fighting rightwing Facists in WW2. By the way the poppy is to remember all who fell in battle not specifically the 2nd WW.

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

Where did you get that from? no one said that? Even Amos couldnt miss that point as spectacularly as you have.

Maybe if you didn't pigeon hole people in right or left wing political categories your point would be clearer. You talk of irony because the "rightwing" are defending the poppy, then talk about fighting rightwing Facists in WW2. By the way the poppy is to remember all who fell in battle not specifically the 2nd WW.

I never mentioned ww2, i kept it open, as i am fully aware that the poppy represents all that have fallen, though the majority of those that have, fell whilst fighting against rightwing/facists enemies, hence my statement regarding the right wing protest previously mentioned (not by myself so not pigeon holing anyone, just using the information provided).

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

Where did you get that from? no one said that? Even Amos couldnt miss that point as spectacularly as you have.

Maybe if you didn't pigeon hole people in right or left wing political categories your point would be clearer. You talk of irony because the "rightwing" are defending the poppy, then talk about fighting rightwing Facists in WW2. By the way the poppy is to remember all who fell in battle not specifically the 2nd WW.

I never mentioned ww2, i kept it open, as i am fully aware that the poppy represents all that have fallen, though the majority of those that have, fell whilst fighting against rightwing/facists enemies, hence my statement regarding the right wing protest previously mentioned (not by myself so not pigeon holing anyone, just using the information provided).

Sorry mate you didn't it was JJ, It just boils my piss when people shout Facist at everything they don't like, I believe it diminishes the true evils of real Facism.

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

Where did you get that from? no one said that? Even Amos couldnt miss that point as spectacularly as you have.

Maybe if you didn't pigeon hole people in right or left wing political categories your point would be clearer. You talk of irony because the "rightwing" are defending the poppy, then talk about fighting rightwing Facists in WW2. By the way the poppy is to remember all who fell in battle not specifically the 2nd WW.

I never mentioned ww2, i kept it open, as i am fully aware that the poppy represents all that have fallen, though the majority of those that have, fell whilst fighting against rightwing/facists enemies, hence my statement regarding the right wing protest previously mentioned (not by myself so not pigeon holing anyone, just using the information provided).

Sorry mate you didn't it was JJ, It just boils my piss when people shout Facist at everything they don't like, I believe it diminishes the true evils of real Facism.

No Worries,

Agreed, That is annoying though...

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

Where did you get that from? no one said that? Even Amos couldnt miss that point as spectacularly as you have.

Maybe if you didn't pigeon hole people in right or left wing political categories your point would be clearer. You talk of irony because the "rightwing" are defending the poppy, then talk about fighting rightwing Facists in WW2. By the way the poppy is to remember all who fell in battle not specifically the 2nd WW.

I never mentioned ww2, i kept it open, as i am fully aware that the poppy represents all that have fallen, though the majority of those that have, fell whilst fighting against rightwing/facists enemies, hence my statement regarding the right wing protest previously mentioned (not by myself so not pigeon holing anyone, just using the information provided).

Sorry mate you didn't it was JJ, It just boils my piss when people shout Facist at everything they don't like, I believe it diminishes the true evils of real Facism.

No Worries,

Agreed, That is annoying though...

maybe both of you need to read what I actually wrote before you start having an unsightly love in

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Wahhabism is a Facist ideology and far more of a threat to our country than some crank tying bacon to a mosque, you really need to get some perspective mate.

he's got plenty of perspective - he is just stating an historical fact from WW2 that informs us from our own history.

Have no truck with any of these idiots, but it is a fact we, with our allies, fought fascism tooth and nail under the most pressing of circumstances.

So tying bacon to a mosque is Facism.

Where did you get that from? no one said that? Even Amos couldnt miss that point as spectacularly as you have.

Maybe if you didn't pigeon hole people in right or left wing political categories your point would be clearer. You talk of irony because the "rightwing" are defending the poppy, then talk about fighting rightwing Facists in WW2. By the way the poppy is to remember all who fell in battle not specifically the 2nd WW.

I never mentioned ww2, i kept it open, as i am fully aware that the poppy represents all that have fallen, though the majority of those that have, fell whilst fighting against rightwing/facists enemies, hence my statement regarding the right wing protest previously mentioned (not by myself so not pigeon holing anyone, just using the information provided).

Sorry mate you didn't it was JJ, It just boils my piss when people shout Facist at everything they don't like, I believe it diminishes the true evils of real Facism.

No Worries,

Agreed, That is annoying though...

maybe both of you need to read what I actually wrote before you start having an unsightly love in

So where's the irony in British right wingers complaining about Poppies being burnt, by people who hate us, our society and our culture. Do you think anyone who refuses to tolerate Islamic intolerance is a Facist.

Says it all

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The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

Ennio Flaiano an Italian writer commented back in the 50's that 'In the future there will be two types of fascists: fascists and anti-fascists"

Dude was absolutely spot on.

Groups like Antifa and Unite Against Fascism are more fascist at their core (in terms of restricting freedom of speech and the right to have any alternative opinion other than what fits their own narrow agenda) than the likes of EDL and Britain First whom they are usually protesting against.

The true irony is that under the guise of political correctness, moderate left thinking has shifted so far left that anyone just a teeny bit right of centre is now labelled a far-right and when someone with left leaning tendencies says far-right, you can almost guarantee that the next word that follows will be fascist (possibly closely followed by Nazi).

It's literally like some kind of odd marxist pavlovian reflex - which is possibly caused by over exposure to the constant propagandist drivel that passes for mainstream media these days.

The simple fact is that political extremes are a bad thing full stop whether they are right or left.

Hitler was obviously an evil right wing prick that killed something like 11 million people in WW2. At the exact same time Stalin who was an evil left wing prick killed about 17 Million people. Meanwhile, Mao who is also a left wing prick, killed something like 45 million (of his own people) in just four years.

(Just for the record those numbers are always widely debated so I went for the lowest ones that are regularly quoted)

People like to throw around the insult fascist far too easily without appearing to have any real understanding of what it actually means and seem to think that being left wing automatically makes someone morally superior. It's bullshit plain and simple.

As Clint Eastwood famously once said "get off your horse and drink your milk" which admittedly doesn't make much sense in this context (and also I think it was actually John Wayne that said that) but Eastwood also said (possibly) "Extremism is easy... when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left."

Another dude that got it spot on.

Rant Over.

Says it all

Same quote I went for although hate to say it mate but it's one of those ones that keeps getting attributed to Churchill but he never actually said it!

Although you made the point n a hell of a lot quicker to read post than i did

Ealing Ayatollah

Excellent post. I struggle to get my head round the Islamist Leftwing socialist alliance, as they are diametrically opposed on so many issues, particularly women's rights, gay rights and freedom of expression.

Ealing Ayatollah

Excellent post. I struggle to get my head round the Islamist Leftwing socialist alliance, as they are diametrically opposed on so many issues, particularly women's rights, gay rights and freedom of expression.

Cheers matey. I'be read a few of your posts on the matter and you seem to be of a similar mind to me in much of what you say.

There are very troubling times ahead so its good to hear another sane voice in the asylum.

Ealing Ayatollah

Excellent post. I struggle to get my head round the Islamist Leftwing socialist alliance, as they are diametrically opposed on so many issues, particularly women's rights, gay rights and freedom of expression.

Cheers matey. I'be read a few of your posts on the matter and you seem to be of a similar mind to me in much of what you say.

There are very troubling times ahead so its good to hear another sane voice in the asylum.

I just dont get the left on it weird bunch

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

i think what passes for right wing with you now would have passed as socialism back in the 1940s, and those like yourself would have been regarded as comunists.
we live in a country where you do not have to contribute from cradle to grave, and each year no matter who is in power, more is spent on health,education and benefits.

The irony of the right wing complaining about Poppies being burnt when the Poppies represent people who gave their live to fight the far right and fascists.

i think what passes for right wing with you now would have passed as socialism back in the 1940s, and those like yourself would have been regarded as comunists.
we live in a country where you do not have to contribute from cradle to grave, and each year no matter who is in power, more is spent on health,education and benefits.

Welsh Patriot called them far right protesters, i just shared a thought based on what had already been written.