Ford Bridgend looking bad

Did the brexit vote contribute . On the other side of arguement it saved port talbot steel works

Did the brexit vote contribute . On the other side of arguement it saved port talbot steel works

I have heard that they are building a superjail at Baglan/ Port Talbot which will provide jobs for the plant and and surrounding uncertainty of jobs.... built in 3 to 5 years. Coincidence maybe?

Did the brexit vote contribute . On the other side of arguement it saved port talbot steel works

Nothing to do with brexit as it's not about moving production anywgere else it's about world wide production slow down for Ford cars

I have heard that they are building a superjail at Baglan/ Port Talbot which will provide jobs for the plant and and surrounding uncertainty of jobs.... built in 3 to 5 years. Coincidence maybe?

better if they built a proper motorway through there instead of that mario bros track with speed cameras

I feel sorry for anyone who might lose their jobs, just think their time is up, same has happened to loads of people working on the tracks, the good times are over. I've got a mate whos worked there for over 20 years, earns incredible money and reckons it's a joke there. Some shifts he does nothing but read books I've lent him!

Unfortunately the gravy train is finally coming to an end.Good luck to anyone, and a number of my friends work there, who have worked there for decades.The pay some of these guys earn especially with overtime is staggering. Some earn in excess of £75000 a year for assembly work! Corporations realized 10-15 years that huge salaries are can be curtailed: terms and conditions will be eroded and plants relocated to eastern Europe.The first example I came across was Panasonic in Pentwyn in Cardiff around 1997 which relocated to Eastern Europe.In port Talbot what will happen and is happening now are workers on a flat rate of £18000 and government pensions, in other words a huge industrial Amazon.Agency workers will transfer into a new Tata contract where T'S & C's will be savaged.

Did the brexit vote contribute . On the other side of arguement it saved port talbot steel works

Nothing to do with brexit as it's not about moving production anywgere else it's about world wide production slow down for Ford cars

Why would they slow down production? Sales seems to rise though, dosent it?

Did the brexit vote contribute . On the other side of arguement it saved port talbot steel works

Nothing to do with brexit as it's not about moving production anywgere else it's about world wide production slow down for Ford cars

Why would they slow down production? Sales seems to rise though, dosent it?

World wide sale of ford cars has slow down so obviously they don't have as many orders for engine s

Did the brexit vote contribute . On the other side of arguement it saved port talbot steel works

Nothing to do with brexit as it's not about moving production anywgere else it's about world wide production slow down for Ford cars

Why would they slow down production? Sales seems to rise though, dosent it?

They don't build the cars there they only make two or three types of engine. Most cars you buy from new are already built not made to order.

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

My mate works down there and has 4 weeks left. Took voluntary Redundancy. He is 59 yo. They offered him a lucrative Lump Sum plus £22k a year Pension.He said thank you very much. I will take that! Like you say some Workers rake in excess of £75k a year with Bonus's and Overtime! That's fine but when it comes to feeling the pinch on why everything is stagnating and the Economy is moving much slower than they like it to..its these people who hide and crawl back into their shell. What social life they must lead, I'd like to know!

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

I work there and have done for the last 10 years, we are hopeful it wont come to a closure, fingers are well and truly crossed

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Because they pay higher wages in the U.K. then they would have to in places like Poland it's not difficult to understand. They also have to ship the engines to places like Poland because that is where the cars are built. Nothing to do with brexit.

There are very few people on £60-70k a year there, mostly staff/management.
The vast majority of the hourly paid, are on less than £30k still a very good wage.
But to lose or the threat to lose your job,is not nice. Especially when any other work you may find is on a fraction of the wages of what you have been used too.
I worked there since it opened (38 years) I retired last year, I had a very good job there, but I didn't earn anywhere near £60k .
I think its some sort of urban myth,that Bridgend Ford are on massive wages (very well paid I admit) but I think its down to some employees exaggerations or showing off to their mates,but I think its only a matter of time till there are very severe job cuts. Maybe over a thousand, but the plant won't close in the foreseeable future.
As far as Brexit is concerned, that I'm afraid as nothing to do with the situation in the plant.
The Jaguar/land rover contract is ending in 2020,JLR will make the replacement engine in Wolverhampton (still in the UK)The sigma engine which goes into the Focus and Fiesta is also ending soon. Being replaced by the Dragon engine which is being built in four plants world wide, which Bridgend is one.
All these decisions were made prior to Brexit in 2009. An engine lifespan is about 10-12 years.
Its just unfortunate that both engines are ending very nearly at the same time.

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

Assembly workers in ford are more like £40k per year. Obviously that rises with overtime.

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Because they pay higher wages in the U.K. then they would have to in places like Poland it's not difficult to understand. They also have to ship the engines to places like Poland because that is where the cars are built. Nothing to do with brexit.

Dagenham ford is also building engines and guess what? They're having a 300 million investment that will create over 200 jobs.

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Because they pay higher wages in the U.K. then they would have to in places like Poland it's not difficult to understand. They also have to ship the engines to places like Poland because that is where the cars are built. Nothing to do with brexit.

Dagenham ford is also building engines and guess what? They're having a 300 million investment that will create over 200 jobs.

Thanks for proving the point that it has nothing to do with brexit.
Dagenham plant is also twice the size of Bridgend and they don't build the same engines.

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Because they pay higher wages in the U.K. then they would have to in places like Poland it's not difficult to understand. They also have to ship the engines to places like Poland because that is where the cars are built. Nothing to do with brexit.

Dagenham ford is also building engines and guess what? They're having a 300 million investment that will create over 200 jobs.

Thanks for proving the point that it has nothing to do with brexit.
Dagenham plant is also twice the size of Bridgend and they don't build the same engines.

bridgend build petrol engines, dagenham build diesel engines

I fear for the future of Bridgend Ford, the working conditions, benefits and salaries paid to guys doing relatively unskilled jobs are completely unsustainable and have been for a long time. As a manufacturing manager working fairly close to the plant we have lost a few guys over the years because we couldn't compete with the package on offer nor would we ever attempt to....a case of good luck to you, thanks for your service...off you go.

Brexit was a disaster for Ford Bridgend

The writing is on the wall....It will be moved to a country within the European union

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Because they pay higher wages in the U.K. then they would have to in places like Poland it's not difficult to understand. They also have to ship the engines to places like Poland because that is where the cars are built. Nothing to do with brexit.

Why are you explaining it to me when I've clearly said it's nothing to do with brexit.

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Wait, hang on you idiot.

"While Brexit isn't go blame, it does have a factor". Where in that sentence am I blaming Brexit? I've actually said "Brexit isn't to blame"!

The factor is, during the limbo time of UK and EU, what company knows what is happening? UK are ready to cut ties with the EU if we don't get what we want. Cutting off Ford's 2nd biggest sales market (North America being first). Import and export Tax may or may not raise. If you build the Engine here, then ship to Romania or Poland, you pay Tax, you then pay tax to get the full car back to the UK to sell it.

People want cheap cars, by having to pay Tax on the exporting of the Engine and Tax Importing the body of the car, you're paying more than needed.

Like I've said, while the phrase "Brexit Means Brexit" crap is thrown out there by the tories, nobody knows what it means!!

Like I've said, why pay £60k a year for 1 person in the UK, when you can pay £45k for 3 people in Europe?

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Wait, hang on you idiot.

"While Brexit isn't go blame, it does have a factor". Where in that sentence am I blaming Brexit? I've actually said "Brexit isn't to blame"!

The factor is, during the limbo time of UK and EU, what company knows what is happening? UK are ready to cut ties with the EU if we don't get what we want. Cutting off Ford's 2nd biggest sales market (North America being first). Import and export Tax may or may not raise. If you build the Engine here, then ship to Romania or Poland, you pay Tax, you then pay tax to get the full car back to the UK to sell it.

People want cheap cars, by having to pay Tax on the exporting of the Engine and Tax Importing the body of the car, you're paying more than needed.

Like I've said, while the phrase "Brexit Means Brexit" crap is thrown out there by the tories, nobody knows what it means!!

Like I've said, why pay £60k a year for 1 person in the UK, when you can pay £45k for 3 people in Europe?

If you actually read through the thread, ford assembly workers are on nowhere near 60k a year. I don't know where people got that from.

I fear for the future of Bridgend Ford, the working conditions, benefits and salaries paid to guys doing relatively unskilled jobs are completely unsustainable and have been for a long time. As a manufacturing manager working fairly close to the plant we have lost a few guys over the years because we couldn't compete with the package on offer nor would we ever attempt to....a case of good luck to you, thanks for your service...off you go.

Brexit was a disaster for Ford Bridgend

The writing is on the wall....It will be moved to a country within the European union

Companies have been taking jobs from the UK before brexit was even a word. The good old EU done nothing to prevent it!

I fear for the future of Bridgend Ford, the working conditions, benefits and salaries paid to guys doing relatively unskilled jobs are completely unsustainable and have been for a long time. As a manufacturing manager working fairly close to the plant we have lost a few guys over the years because we couldn't compete with the package on offer nor would we ever attempt to....a case of good luck to you, thanks for your service...off you go.

Brexit was a disaster for Ford Bridgend

The writing is on the wall....It will be moved to a country within the European union

Companies have been taking jobs from the UK before brexit was even a word. The good old EU done nothing to prevent it!

Good old UK done nothing to prevent it either. What makes you think they will save anything now? Tata got "saved" by the workers taking a pension cut... but not securing jobs for the future. 12 months time Port Talbot is set to cut more than 1000 jobs to save on costs. That's even with the Yes vote that's been passed!

Blame the EU all you want, but look at who is now running things here at home. We took something from the EU and handed to the Tories. Good Job!

Even if the assembly workers are on £30k a year, it's ALOT cheaper in Eastern Europe where the jobs are going. A friend of mine messaged me yesterday, that Ford is going to cut the work force to 500 workers and just 1 engine. The New dragon engine that was planned to be built in Bridgend will now be built at the new factory in Romainia to maximise profit.

"Brexit Means Brexit"... so what is "Brexit"?

As stated above, some of the people working in these plants earn around £60,000 "on the line". Food only have 2 sole build engine plants in the world, why keep them open when they can build the full car in Eastern Europe? While Brexit isn't to blame, it does have a factor in some way. Why pay someone here £60k, when you can pay 3 men £14k each in Romainia and not pay for the lugging around of car parts around the world. Saving you money on wages, and money on logistics.

It is nothing to do with brexit. Please elaborate on how you can claim this.

Wait, hang on you idiot.

"While Brexit isn't go blame, it does have a factor". Where in that sentence am I blaming Brexit? I've actually said "Brexit isn't to blame"!

The factor is, during the limbo time of UK and EU, what company knows what is happening? UK are ready to cut ties with the EU if we don't get what we want. Cutting off Ford's 2nd biggest sales market (North America being first). Import and export Tax may or may not raise. If you build the Engine here, then ship to Romania or Poland, you pay Tax, you then pay tax to get the full car back to the UK to sell it.

People want cheap cars, by having to pay Tax on the exporting of the Engine and Tax Importing the body of the car, you're paying more than needed.

Like I've said, while the phrase "Brexit Means Brexit" crap is thrown out there by the tories, nobody knows what it means!!

Like I've said, why pay £60k a year for 1 person in the UK, when you can pay £45k for 3 people in Europe?

Idiot? Really?? Name calling?? How old are you?

Surely an idiot would claim brexit had nothing to do with something and then say it's a factor. Isn't that the kind of thing an idiot would do? You know pretty idiotic to say it's nothing to do with it but it is....I mean come on that's what an idiot would say isn't it??

By the way idiot, what is happening at Bridgend is absolutely nothing diddly squat to do with brexit it's not even a "factor"

Now next time try refrain from petty name calling.

I fear for the future of Bridgend Ford, the working conditions, benefits and salaries paid to guys doing relatively unskilled jobs are completely unsustainable and have been for a long time. As a manufacturing manager working fairly close to the plant we have lost a few guys over the years because we couldn't compete with the package on offer nor would we ever attempt to....a case of good luck to you, thanks for your service...off you go.

Brexit was a disaster for Ford Bridgend

The writing is on the wall....It will be moved to a country within the European union

Companies have been taking jobs from the UK before brexit was even a word. The good old EU done nothing to prevent it!

Good old UK done nothing to prevent it either. What makes you think they will save anything now? Tata got "saved" by the workers taking a pension cut... but not securing jobs for the future. 12 months time Port Talbot is set to cut more than 1000 jobs to save on costs. That's even with the Yes vote that's been passed!

Blame the EU all you want, but look at who is now running things here at home. We took something from the EU and handed to the Tories. Good Job!

Even if the assembly workers are on £30k a year, it's ALOT cheaper in Eastern Europe where the jobs are going. A friend of mine messaged me yesterday, that Ford is going to cut the work force to 500 workers and just 1 engine. The New dragon engine that was planned to be built in Bridgend will now be built at the new factory in Romainia to maximise profit.

"Brexit Means Brexit"... so what is "Brexit"?

You do realise we are still a part of the EU and at this current time nothing has changed don't you??

I fear for the future of Bridgend Ford, the working conditions, benefits and salaries paid to guys doing relatively unskilled jobs are completely unsustainable and have been for a long time. As a manufacturing manager working fairly close to the plant we have lost a few guys over the years because we couldn't compete with the package on offer nor would we ever attempt to....a case of good luck to you, thanks for your service...off you go.

Brexit was a disaster for Ford Bridgend

The writing is on the wall....It will be moved to a country within the European union

Companies have been taking jobs from the UK before brexit was even a word. The good old EU done nothing to prevent it!

Good old UK done nothing to prevent it either. What makes you think they will save anything now? Tata got "saved" by the workers taking a pension cut... but not securing jobs for the future. 12 months time Port Talbot is set to cut more than 1000 jobs to save on costs. That's even with the Yes vote that's been passed!

Blame the EU all you want, but look at who is now running things here at home. We took something from the EU and handed to the Tories. Good Job!

Even if the assembly workers are on £30k a year, it's ALOT cheaper in Eastern Europe where the jobs are going. A friend of mine messaged me yesterday, that Ford is going to cut the work force to 500 workers and just 1 engine. The New dragon engine that was planned to be built in Bridgend will now be built at the new factory in Romainia to maximise profit.

"Brexit Means Brexit"... so what is "Brexit"?

This new dragon engine you mentioned is going to be built in 4 different plants. Bridgend being one of them.

The Uk accounts for up to 40% of fords european sales. The government and public have alot to bargain with there. They pull out of bridgend, run a little negative campaign. Collapse ford sales in the Uk, and its european arm goes bankrupt.