' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

' Cardiff City's average away support 2016-17 '

970 so far this season which is up on the 748 of last season challenging a play off spot. I would imagine it will end up over a thousand with decent following expected at wolves qpr shef weds and Huddersfield, Barnsley and Wigan will attract around the 500 mark with only Blackburn midweek producing small numbers.

I do think we hit rock bottom as a club last season, I would expect the away following to increase again next season. Progress is being made.


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Cardiff City fixtures 2016/17



Saturday 6 Aug 2016, 3pm - Birmingham City 0 Cardiff City 0 Crowd 19,833 Away( 1,803 ).

Thursday 11 Aug 2016 7.45pm Bristol Rover 1 Cardiff City 0 EFL Cup Crowd 4,851 Away ( 971 )

Sunday 14 Aug 2016, 3pm Cardiff City 0 Queens Park Rangers 2 Crowd 15,859 Away( 854)

Wednesday 17th Aug 2016 Cardiff City 2 Blackburn Rovers 1 Crowd 14,041 Away (222)

Saturday 20 Aug 2016, 3pm - Fulham 2 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 15,401 Away(1,082)

Saturday 27 Aug 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Reading 1 Crowd 15,013 Away(920)

Saturday 10 Sep 2016, 3pm - Norwich City 3 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 25,559 Away(302)

Tuesday 13 Sep 2016, 7:45pm - Preston North End 3 Cardiff City 0 Crowd Away (203)

Saturday 17 Sep 2016, 12.30pm Sky TV - Cardiff City 0 Leeds United 2 Crowd 16,608 Away (1,820)

Saturday 24 Sep 2016, 3pm - Rotherham United 1 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 8,395 Away(385)

27 Sep 2016, 7:45pm - Cardiff City 0 Derby County 2 Crowd Away(520)

1 Oct 2016, 3pm - Burton Albion 2 Cardiff City 0 Crowd 4,426 Away(1,210)

14 Oct 2016, 7.45pm - Cardiff City 2 Bristol City 1 Crowd 22,776 Away (2,083)

19 Oct 2016, 7:45pm - Cardiff City 1 Sheffield Wednesday 1 Crowd 15,887 Away( 1,126 )

22 Oct 2016,5.30pm - Nottingham Forest 1 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 16,539 Away( 364) Live on Sky

29 Oct 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Wigan Athletic 1 Crowd 15,969 Away( 302)

5 Nov 2016, 3pm - Newcastle United 2 Cardiff City 1 Crowd 51,257 Away(840)

19 Nov 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 3 Huddersfield 2 Crowd 15,930 Away(700 )

26 Nov 2016, 3pm - Aston Villa 3 Cardiff City 1 Crowd 31,484 Away(2,419 )

3 Dec 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Brighton 0 Crowd 16,168 Away( 1,258 )

10 Dec 2016, 3pm - Ipswich Town 1 Cardiff City 1 Crowd 15,042 Away( 241 )

13 Dec 2016, 7:45pm - Cardiff City 2 Wolverhampton 1 Crowd 14,853 Away(702)

17 Dec 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 3 Barnsley 4 Crowd 14,754 Away(510)

26 Dec 2016, 1pm - Brentford 2 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 11,045 Away(1,103)

2nd Jan 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 1 Aston Villa 0 Crowd 21,153 Away( 3,358)

8th Jan 2017, 11.30am Cardiff City 1 Fulham 2 FACUP 3rd Rd Crowd 5,199 Away(710 )

14 Jan 2017, 12pm - Bristol City 2 Cardiff City 3 Crowd 19,452 Away (2,080)

21 Jan 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 1 Burton Albion 0 Crowd 15,547 Away(410)

24 Jan 2017, 7.45pm Brighton 1 Cardiff City 0 Crowd 26,668 Away(408)

28 Jan 2017, 3pm - Reading 2 Cardiff City 1 Crowd18,558 Away(2,348)

31st Jan 2017 7.45pm Cardiff City 2 Preston 0 Crowd 13,894 Away(180)

4 Feb 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Norwich City 1 Crowd 15,901 Away (1,120 approx)

11 Feb 2017, 3pm - Leeds United 0 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 32,516 Away(430 )

14 Feb 2017, 7:45pm - Derby County 3 Cardiff City 4 Crowd 26,541 Away( 308)

18 Feb 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 5 Rotherham United 0 Crowd 15,650 Away (150 )

25 Feb 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 2 Fulham 2 Crowd 15,656 Away(890 )

4 Mar 2017, 3pm - Queens Park Rangers Cardiff City Crowd Away( )

7 Mar 2017, 7:45pm - Blackburn Rovers (A)

11 Mar 2017, 3pm - Birmingham City (H)

18 Mar 2017, 3pm - Ipswich Town (H)

1 Apr 2017, 3pm - Wolverhampton (A)

4 Apr 2017, 7:45pm - Barnsley (A)

8 Apr 2017, 3pm - Brentford (H)

Good Friday 14 Apr 2017, 3pm - Sheffield Wednesday (A)

17 Apr 2017, 3pm - Nottingham Forest (H)

22 Apr 2017, 3pm - Wigan Athletic (A)

29 Apr 2017, 3pm - Newcastle United (H)

7 May 2017, 12pm - Huddersfield Town (A)

Won't be many at Barnsley as it's midweek.

QPR and Wolves should be 1500+

Huddersfield probably 6-700, Sunday AM dead rubber.

Wigan maybe a few more as we haven't had many Sat games there.

Sheff Weds not many as they are rip off badtards

Won't be many at Barnsley as it's midweek.

QPR and Wolves should be 1500+

Huddersfield probably 6-700, Sunday AM dead rubber.

Wigan maybe a few more as we haven't had many Sat games there.

Sheff Weds not many as they are rip off badtards

Blackburn away as well.

Tim, also last times I went to Blackburn on night games we took 500 a couple of seasons ago and about 280 last time.

Contrast that with our home support which is at a 40 year high.7 years into the decade we currently average 21733 .

Won't be many at Barnsley as it's midweek.

QPR and Wolves should be 1500+

Huddersfield probably 6-700, Sunday AM dead rubber.

Wigan maybe a few more as we haven't had many Sat games there.

Sheff Weds not many as they are rip off badtards

Wigan is one I am looking to pencil in, not been up there since the 99/00 season, had a great trip back then, if I remember rightly it was their first season in the then JJB stadium and it was well impressive, probably look at stopping over somewhere.

Even though we were relegated still stands out as one of my favourite season's watching Cardiff that season, must have done about 15 away games, certainly wasn't for the light hearted

Contrast that with our home support which is at a 40 year high.7 years into the decade we currently average 21733 .

Our current home average this season is approx 16,050(approx).

Thankfully all football clubs home crowds are way up,compared to the 80's and 90's

I'm talking about the average for the whole decade so far.

I'm talking about the average for the whole decade so far.

I understand

Contrast that with our home support which is at a 40 year high.7 years into the decade we currently average 21733 .

i make it a few more at 22,003, which is the 22nd highest average this decade so far.higher than 7 of the clubs currently in the prem.

I'm crunching the numbers by hand from various city history books .so maybe slightly out.1980/1990 4910 1990/2000 4670 2000/2010 12758 .present decade 22000 so far .our support is at a 40 year high.

I'm crunching the numbers by hand from various city history books .so maybe slightly out.1980/1990 4910 1990/2000 4670 2000/2010 12758 .present decade 22000 so far .our support is at a 40 year high.

I was at everyone of those games, it just shows how bad our support really was, its shocking when you think of it.
But we always had good away support compared to our home support
Now it seems the other way around.

I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.

I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.

I could go and on and on naming clubs in lower divisions with as long or even as long as journeys as us from Grimsby,Plymouth,Carlisle, Pompey etc etc

Let's just be honest instead of excuses all the time, our Away Support in the last 7 years has become crap/awful and I hate saying it.

I have been to the Darlingtons, Carlisle and Hartlepools at least 7 times each with Cardiff.

We once took 5 times as much Away support as Fulham, Blackburn QPR Bristol Rovers etc
But it's all changed

So Pompey to Carlisle over 1,100 fans
Plymouth to Hartlepool nearly 500 fans
Bolton to Southend over 1,000 fans
Bolton took more to Ipswich than we did last season

I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.

I could go and on and on naming clubs in lower divisions with as long or even as long as journeys as us from Grimsby,Plymouth,Carlisle, Pompey etc etc

Let's just be honest instead of excuses all the time, our Away Support in the last 7 years has become crap/awful and I hate saying it.

I have been to the Darlingtons, Carlisle and Hartlepools at least 7 times each with Cardiff.

We once took 5 times as much Away support as Fulham, Blackburn QPR Bristol Rovers etc
But it's all changed

So Pompey to Carlisle over 1,100 fans
Plymouth to Hartlepool nearly 500 fans
Bolton to Southend over 1,000 fans
Bolton took more to Ipswich than we did last season

I think I have posted on this issue before so apologies for going on about it.

You cant compare clubs average away support as we have to do far more travelling than many others with slightly better averages than us. After Bristol City, which is almost 40 miles away (a distance that would not be regarded as a derby for at least 2/3 of the clubs), the nearest is a 100 miles away. To have teams like QPR and Reading above us as better supported away teams is ridiculous as their support is grossly inflated by the close proximity of some of their fixtures. QPR for example have Fulham and Brentford on their doorstep. Its like travelling to Dinas Powis and Taffs Well for an away game- Birmingham whilst traditionally having quite good away support are also helped by the fact they have 6 clubs within an hours drive and at least two thirds within 2 hours.

You need to compare the difference between what we take away and what the other clubs bring to Cardiff. You will find there's not a lot of difference. Using this criteria you will see we are probably half way up the table. I cant think of any occasion over the last 20 years when teams such as Fulham, Reading and QPR have brought more to Cardiff than we have taken to their place

Newcastle, to be fair, have a massive following despite the distances they have to travel.

I could go and on and on naming clubs in lower divisions with as long or even as long as journeys as us from Grimsby,Plymouth,Carlisle, Pompey etc etc

Let's just be honest instead of excuses all the time, our Away Support in the last 7 years has become crap/awful and I hate saying it.

I have been to the Darlingtons, Carlisle and Hartlepools at least 7 times each with Cardiff.

We once took 5 times as much Away support as Fulham, Blackburn QPR Bristol Rovers etc
But it's all changed

So Pompey to Carlisle over 1,100 fans
Plymouth to Hartlepool nearly 500 fans
Bolton to Southend over 1,000 fans
Bolton took more to Ipswich than we did last season

Over 900 Bristol Rovers away at Bolton this week, 400 mile round trip on a Tuesday night, lower division.

Bristol City 4th from bottom sold out on a Tuesday night this week 2,800 Away at Villa.


Bolton rock bottom last season got relegated have to travel down South were hammered week in week out even took more away support than us last season and we were 8th most of the season.


We went to BURNLEY away to get promoted to the Premier League and did on that day for the first time in 50years and were given 3,000 tickets, it was pay on the day, we barely took 1,500, I was there saw it for myself. ??

In the 80's we took 2,500 to BURNLEY in Division 4.

So please none of this travelling rubbish and excuses, Let's be honest we have lost our Away support, hopefully will come back,
Everyone is going on about 1,500 going to QPR on Sat, that was the norm and at least that would go even 2,500 fans in the past.

I wasn't trying to make excuses or to say that we have great away support and recognise that some clubs like Plymouth still take a lot away. I totally agree our support has not been good particularly since we came down from the Premier. I went to Sheff Wed last year and couldn't believe how few of us were there for such an important game. The age profile of our support is also worryingly old- I am one of the greying balding men that seem to make up at least 50% of our away support.

I was just trying to point out that you cant use an average as any indication. Even when we were having our best away support we wouldn't necessarily have registered very high up simply because we have never had a cluster of clubs around us like the clubs in the Midlands, London and certain parts of Yorkshire and Lancashire.

Preston apparently took 5,000 to Wigan last week. that's great support for a club from a small town but Wigan is only 20 miles down the road for them. That will add around 250 to their end of season average in one hit. The last time we played a club less than 20 miles away was in the early eighties when Newport were in the same League.

I wasn't trying to make excuses or to say that we have great away support and recognise that some clubs like Plymouth still take a lot away. I totally agree our support has not been good particularly since we came down from the Premier. I went to Sheff Wed last year and couldn't believe how few of us were there for such an important game. The age profile of our support is also worryingly old- I am one of the greying balding men that seem to make up at least 50% of our away support.

I was just trying to point out that you cant use an average as any indication. Even when we were having our best away support we wouldn't necessarily have registered very high up simply because we have never had a cluster of clubs around us like the clubs in the Midlands, London and certain parts of Yorkshire and Lancashire.

Preston apparently took 5,000 to Wigan last week. that's great support for a club from a small town but Wigan is only 20 miles down the road for them. That will add around 250 to their end of season average in one hit. The last time we played a club less than 20 miles away was in the early eighties when Newport were in the same League.

Because of our reputation its taken years for fans to come to us, for many years many would not come.
Thankfully they've started coming over the last few years and its increasing every season




Fair play you can also see where I am coming from even Some non League Clubs take away more than us nowadays, so sad to see what's happened.
Yes I agree some other clubs are very very close, but we never even sold Bristol City away out,yet excuses were made.
They sold out at our place on Friday night, live on Sky.
Years ago we would take 3,500 fans there, now we take barely 2,000 and we are a bigger club nowadays.

Just to put this into context.


Pompeys game at Carlisle was a big promotion show down.

Rovers were playing at Bolton for the first time ever as far as I know.

A lot of those games meantioned are special.
Grimsby just back in the league so bound to take more than they would normally

Give it years and years at the same level and their numbers will drop too.

Plenty of clubs took pitiful support to games in the last few weeks, but for long midweek trips it's not surprising.

We haven't always taken big numbers. Yes to the one offs, Bury, Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe etc.., but I've been amongst less than 200 many many times in the 80s and 90s.. Mansfield, Huddersfield- barely 100 for a Sat 3pm Championship level game. Notts County, Cambridge, Shrewsbury midweek all rubbish numbers.

When we came back up our support away rocketed, new grounds, team on the crest of a wave, new fans and good organised travel. Year on year though the novelty wore off, apart from when we had Wembley and success. It shouldn't be a surprise that we have dipped now.

Seems to me over the last few Saturday always that things are slowly picking up.

1500 to QPR on Sat is roughly what we were taking a few years back, after the novelty of the first few seasons there wore off.

Just to put this into context.


Pompeys game at Carlisle was a big promotion show down.

Rovers were playing at Bolton for the first time ever as far as I know.

A lot of those games meantioned are special.
Grimsby just back in the league so bound to take more than they would normally

Give it years and years at the same level and their numbers will drop too.

Plenty of clubs took pitiful support to games in the last few weeks, but for long midweek trips it's not surprising.

We haven't always taken big numbers. Yes to the one offs, Bury, Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe etc.., but I've been amongst less than 200 many many times in the 80s and 90s.. Mansfield, Huddersfield- barely 100 for a Sat 3pm Championship level game. Notts County, Cambridge, Shrewsbury midweek all rubbish numbers.

When we came back up our support away rocketed, new grounds, team on the crest of a wave, new fans and good organised travel. Year on year though the novelty wore off, apart from when we had Wembley and success. It shouldn't be a surprise that we have dipped now.

Seems to me over the last few Saturday always that things are slowly picking up.

1500 to QPR on Sat is roughly what we were taking a few years back, after the novelty of the first few seasons there wore off.

Tim, I am not going to go in to it as I could pull another 30 teams up.
Pompey have now been in Div 4 for 4 years and struggling year after year,they take nearly 2,000 away every where.
Pompey support home and away has been amazing year after year,give credit where it is due Tim


You mean first time ever at Boltons new ground? But 900 fans away in midweek in the lower divisions.
We went to Burton on a Saturday,much closer and had 400 tickets left over.

Honestly Tim, I know my crowds inside out and know over 200 clubs home and away and sadly ours has gone crap and it hurts to say it.

Why not be honest and commend these clubs fans for sticking with their clubs during their dark days.


As to QPR, We use to take 1,500 in midweek years ago and use to fill two tiers for fun



THE TRUTH WAS HERE

We went to BURNLEY away to get promoted to the Premier League and did on that day for the first time in 50years and were given 3,000 tickets, it was pay on the day, we barely took 1,500, I was there saw it for myself. ??
That day was one of our biggest ever away days in our history.


In the 80's we took 2,500 to BURNLEY in Division 4.

Annis, I'm sure you could go on about this for ages, but there's nothing I've said there that isn't true.

The season before to Burnley we took 3500.

Yet we've also took a couple of hundred up there midweek a year or 2 before.



Burton was a new ground for our fans and as such we took a few more, however a lot of people just didn't see the excitement in it especially as we were so poor.
They were right too, it was awful.

On Saturday we are going to take DOUBLE to QPR than they brought here and as many point out we still take more away to other clubs than they bring here.

Our support away is now fairly average considering the distances and restrictions.

It was bigger for a few seasons whilst we were riding through the leagues and pushing for promotion and cup finals. Let's not forget we couldn't sell out Palace for the semis. But it's certainly not the case that we used to be awesome and are now crap.
I think that's a bit disrespectful to those who go away, especially the growing group of youngsters we have.

Just to put this into context.


Pompeys game at Carlisle was a big promotion show down.

Rovers were playing at Bolton for the first time ever as far as I know.

A lot of those games meantioned are special.
Grimsby just back in the league so bound to take more than they would normally

Give it years and years at the same level and their numbers will drop too.

Plenty of clubs took pitiful support to games in the last few weeks, but for long midweek trips it's not surprising.

We haven't always taken big numbers. Yes to the one offs, Bury, Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe etc.., but I've been amongst less than 200 many many times in the 80s and 90s.. Mansfield, Huddersfield- barely 100 for a Sat 3pm Championship level game. Notts County, Cambridge, Shrewsbury midweek all rubbish numbers.

When we came back up our support away rocketed, new grounds, team on the crest of a wave, new fans and good organised travel. Year on year though the novelty wore off, apart from when we had Wembley and success. It shouldn't be a surprise that we have dipped now.

Seems to me over the last few Saturday always that things are slowly picking up.

1500 to QPR on Sat is roughly what we were taking a few years back, after the novelty of the first few seasons there wore off.

Tim, I am not going to go in to it as I could pull another 30 teams up.
Pompey have now been in Div 4 for 4 years and struggling year after year,they take nearly 2,000 away every where.
Pompey support home and away has been amazing year after year,give credit where it is due Tim


You mean first time ever at Boltons new ground? But 900 fans away in midweek in the lower divisions.
We went to Burton on a Saturday,much closer and had 400 tickets left over.

Honestly Tim, I know my crowds inside out and know over 200 clubs home and away and sadly ours has gone crap and it hurts to say it.

Why not be honest and commend these clubs fans for sticking with their clubs during their dark days.


As to QPR, We use to take 1,500 in midweek years ago and use to fill two tiers for fun



THE TRUTH WAS HERE

We went to BURNLEY away to get promoted to the Premier League and did on that day for the first time in 50years and were given 3,000 tickets, it was pay on the day, we barely took 1,500, I was there saw it for myself. ??
That day was one of our biggest ever away days in our history.


In the 80's we took 2,500 to BURNLEY in Division 4.

When we played Burnley a few years back we were already up.
It was the season before when we had an outside chance of QPR we're docked points and we took something like 3500 there.
I was also at both, and the one in the 80s which was last game of the season after Burrows had took us up. I'd agree there were about 2000 there that day, but it was our biggest sway following except derbies for some time.

Annis, I'm sure you could go on about this for ages, but there's nothing I've said there that isn't true.

The season before to Burnley we took 3500.

Yet we've also took a couple of hundred up there midweek a year or 2 before.



Burton was a new ground for our fans and as such we took a few more, however a lot of people just didn't see the excitement in it especially as we were so poor.
They were right too, it was awful.

On Saturday we are going to take DOUBLE to QPR than they brought here and as many point out we still take more away to other clubs than they bring here.

Our support away is now fairly average considering the distances and restrictions.

It was bigger for a few seasons whilst we were riding through the leagues and pushing for promotion and cup finals. Let's not forget we couldn't sell out Palace for the semis. But it's certainly not the case that we used to be awesome and are now crap.
I think that's a bit disrespectful to those who go away, especially the growing group of youngsters we have.

Tim,


Please whats your opinion about our biggest away game in the last 50 years,guaranteed if we won promotion to the Premier League,No restrictions,pay on the day,a Saturday 3pm?

Do you think thats what other clubs would only take away(I can show you 50 other clubs big away days)?


My opinion, our away support has gone down hill rapidly in the last 7 years(because of Tan/rebrand),but I think/believe under Neil Warnock it might finally start return


I would never ever be disrespectful to those who still go away week in week out,I was one of them for 40 years and its hard going,but I loved everyone who use to travel and have the highest respect for those that have kept going away,they are brilliant days/nights when only a few of you



My apologies Tim and I was there Burnley away


Cardiff City clinched their first Championship title after earning a draw against Burnley at Turf Moor.


The Bluebirds had already clinched Premier League promotion, but this point ensured they won their first league title since they topped the old Division Four in 1992-93.

So annis what's your comments on the away support that's come to us this season?.ive just checked and its pretty dreadful by most clubs.

So annis what's your comments on the away support that's come to us this season?.ive just checked and its pretty dreadful by most clubs.

QPR 854 fans on a Sunday,fair as it was a Sunday,not really good,but they have never really been big away support.
Blackburn total crap 222,but use to only bring 60 fans to us in the 80s
Reading 920, brilliant compared to what they use to bring in 80's & 90's but total crap compared to their home crowds.
Leeds 1,820 excellent 12.30pm live on tv.
Derby 520 fair midweek night, we took 308 to them.
Bristol City 2,083 live on tv,Friday night and they sold what we gave them, good support.
Shelf Wed 1,126 midweek game, we would struggle to take that on Sat to them so very good.
Wigan 302 fans total crap.
Norwich 1,120 on a Sat, we took 302 on a Sat, so their support was very good.
I could on and on Ipswich we took 241 on a Sat,I reckon they will bring 750 at least.





Saturday 6 Aug 2016, 3pm - Birmingham City 0 Cardiff City 0 Crowd 19,833 Away( 1,803 ).

Thursday 11 Aug 2016 7.45pm Bristol Rover 1 Cardiff City 0 EFL Cup Crowd 4,851 Away ( 971 )

Sunday 14 Aug 2016, 3pm Cardiff City 0 Queens Park Rangers 2 Crowd 15,859 Away( 854)

Wednesday 17th Aug 2016 Cardiff City 2 Blackburn Rovers 1 Crowd 14,041 Away (222)

Saturday 20 Aug 2016, 3pm - Fulham 2 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 15,401 Away(1,082)

Saturday 27 Aug 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Reading 1 Crowd 15,013 Away(920)

Saturday 10 Sep 2016, 3pm - Norwich City 3 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 25,559 Away(302)

Tuesday 13 Sep 2016, 7:45pm - Preston North End 3 Cardiff City 0 Crowd Away (203)

Saturday 17 Sep 2016, 12.30pm Sky TV - Cardiff City 0 Leeds United 2 Crowd 16,608 Away (1,820)

Saturday 24 Sep 2016, 3pm - Rotherham United 1 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 8,395 Away(385)

27 Sep 2016, 7:45pm - Cardiff City 0 Derby County 2 Crowd Away(520)

1 Oct 2016, 3pm - Burton Albion 2 Cardiff City 0 Crowd 4,426 Away(1,210)

14 Oct 2016, 7.45pm - Cardiff City 2 Bristol City 1 Crowd 22,776 Away (2,083)

19 Oct 2016, 7:45pm - Cardiff City 1 Sheffield Wednesday 1 Crowd 15,887 Away( 1,126 )

22 Oct 2016,5.30pm - Nottingham Forest 1 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 16,539 Away( 364) Live on Sky

29 Oct 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Wigan Athletic 1 Crowd 15,969 Away( 302)

5 Nov 2016, 3pm - Newcastle United 2 Cardiff City 1 Crowd 51,257 Away(840)

19 Nov 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 3 Huddersfield 2 Crowd 15,930 Away(700 )

26 Nov 2016, 3pm - Aston Villa 3 Cardiff City 1 Crowd 31,484 Away(2,419 )

3 Dec 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Brighton 0 Crowd 16,168 Away( 1,258 )

10 Dec 2016, 3pm - Ipswich Town 1 Cardiff City 1 Crowd 15,042 Away( 241 )

13 Dec 2016, 7:45pm - Cardiff City 2 Wolverhampton 1 Crowd 14,853 Away(702)

17 Dec 2016, 3pm - Cardiff City 3 Barnsley 4 Crowd 14,754 Away(510)

26 Dec 2016, 1pm - Brentford 2 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 11,045 Away(1,103)

2nd Jan 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 1 Aston Villa 0 Crowd 21,153 Away( 3,358)

8th Jan 2017, 11.30am Cardiff City 1 Fulham 2 FACUP 3rd Rd Crowd 5,199 Away(710 )

14 Jan 2017, 12pm - Bristol City 2 Cardiff City 3 Crowd 19,452 Away (2,080)

21 Jan 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 1 Burton Albion 0 Crowd 15,547 Away(410)

24 Jan 2017, 7.45pm Brighton 1 Cardiff City 0 Crowd 26,668 Away(408)

28 Jan 2017, 3pm - Reading 2 Cardiff City 1 Crowd18,558 Away(2,348)

31st Jan 2017 7.45pm Cardiff City 2 Preston 0 Crowd 13,894 Away(180)

4 Feb 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 0 Norwich City 1 Crowd 15,901 Away (1,120 approx)

11 Feb 2017, 3pm - Leeds United 0 Cardiff City 2 Crowd 32,516 Away(430 )

14 Feb 2017, 7:45pm - Derby County 3 Cardiff City 4 Crowd 26,541 Away( 308)

18 Feb 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 5 Rotherham United 0 Crowd 15,650 Away (150 )

25 Feb 2017, 3pm - Cardiff City 2 Fulham 2 Crowd 15,656 Away(890 )

I love my crowd debates, been my favourite part of football since I was 7 yrs old, every weekend thats the first thing I look for crowds

Ye i do too.but my theory is we've all done the second tier away to death the lower leagues also .we need a long period in the top flight some our support comes out in numbers.the league we are in now I've been to some of those grounds 7 or8 times.

Always thought that Reading's support was poor, considering the distance, pretty sure we only charged them £20 max this season too, & with them fighting for promotion, we took over double there than they did to is

I love my crowd debates, been my favourite part of football since I was 7 yrs old, every weekend thats the first thing I look for crowds

its really not straight forward mate, you can look at if from differing points of view.
eg.. you put a piece up about Bradford taking 1450 to Port Vale.
on one hand,yes its good.but not great.
its only 85 miles was only 22 quid and they are having a good season challenging for promotion.and on top of that what they spend on their home matches is peanuts, in theory allowing them more of their football budget to travel.
you can argue it either way.

I love my crowd debates, been my favourite part of football since I was 7 yrs old, every weekend thats the first thing I look for crowds

its really not straight forward mate, you can look at if from differing points of view.
eg.. you put a piece up about Bradford taking 1450 to Port Vale.
on one hand,yes its good.but not great.
its only 85 miles was only 22 quid and they are having a good season challenging for promotion.and on top of that what they spend on their home matches is peanuts, in theory allowing them more of their football budget to travel.
you can argue it either way.

Excuses excuses excuses

It is good.

First they are in a lower division so the price £22 is you could say ok.
Taking that many away is good in a lower division.
Also Bradford have played them numerous times over the years and many on here say it gets boring
Also they are 6th not once been in automatic promotion place.
I can drive to Reading from Castleton in just over an hour so that's not far and I've been to Reading now 14 times with City, you could say that's very near.
Port Vale mean nothing to Bradford fans, they go because it's BRADFORD CITY.

It was £99 for under 22's at Cardiff and £249 for Adults and £50 for Kids that was Fantastic value to play NEWCASTLE VILLA LEEDS etc. etc.


Next you will be saying 1,100 Pompey going to Carlisle is not good


You even in another post said CARDIFF should charge £120 for Adults, next you will be saying that's a joke