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Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:14 am

Looks like they have got this one right for once :lol: any other gems out there ? Will Fred come good as well ?

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:18 am

wez1927 wrote:Looks like they have got this one right for once :lol: any other gems out there ? Will Fred come good as well ?


Wez, its about bloody time after all the £millions they've wasted.

If you were honest Zohore was awful until Neil Warnock got hold of him and made him the finished article which I am so pleased about as it proved myself wrong and many others :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:39 am

what would Warnock have managed to improve with the other talented players that Slade got rid of....those that Ole bought. ?

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:41 am

barry boy wrote:what would Warnock have managed to improve with the other talented players that Slade got rid of....those that Ole bought. ?


Warnock would of had us top 2,with the players that Slade had. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:13 am

Also Hoilett and Bamba the committee are doing very well recently

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:21 am

wez1927 wrote:Also Hoilett and Bamba the committee are doing very well recently


Wez, you honestly don't know what your on about,they are both Warnocks players and Warnock has already stated if Nottingham Forest had given him the job,they were both going to Forest with him,before he had the Cardiff job.

Only you would start negative/sarcastic posts when everyone is happy and on a high,I would swear you like to only cause upset and divide.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:59 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Also Hoilett and Bamba the committee are doing very well recently


Wez, you honestly don't know what your on about,they are both Warnocks players and Warnock has already stated if Nottingham Forest had given him the job,they were both going to Forest with him,before he had the Cardiff job.

Only you would start negative/sarcastic posts when everyone is happy and on a high,I would swear you like to only cause upset and divide.

Annis you can't have it both ways your always slagging off the transfer committee if a player is signed they got to go through the committee since the Ole days,I'm giving the committee credit coz recently the whole committee is working better ,but you can't cherry pick the bad ones then not give credit for the good decision? This isn't a negative post this is a very positive post as it is working much better than before, your putting the negative spin on it as you can't never give credit to the club/tan

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:06 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Also Hoilett and Bamba the committee are doing very well recently


Wez, you honestly don't know what your on about,they are both Warnocks players and Warnock has already stated if Nottingham Forest had given him the job,they were both going to Forest with him,before he had the Cardiff job.

Only you would start negative/sarcastic posts when everyone is happy and on a high,I would swear you like to only cause upset and divide.

Annis you can't have it both ways your always slagging off the transfer committee if a player is signed they got to go through the committee since the Ole days,I'm giving the committee credit coz recently the whole committee is working better ,but you can't cherry pick the bad ones then not give credit for the good decision? This isn't a negative post this is a very positive post as it is working much better than before, your putting the negative spin on it as you can't never give credit to the club/tan


Am with wez on his one, didn't read it in any other way than a light hearted joke but he does have a point. No matter who you are some transfers pay off some don't, just look at Richardson and chamak. They were due to get one right, and it's true Warnock has made him that player but on a positive note what could he do with Saadi?? Another tan signing.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:17 pm

Totally agree with Wez here, either the transfer committee are responsible for all the transfers or none of them.

No doubt Lambert was Trollope choice but the committee get the blame so by the same token they would deserve the praise for authorising Warnocks signs of Hoilett and Bamba.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:22 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Looks like they have got this one right for once :lol: any other gems out there ? Will Fred come good as well ?


Wez, its about bloody time after all the £millions they've wasted.

If you were honest Zohore was awful until Neil Warnock got hold of him and made him the finished article which I am so pleased about as it proved myself wrong and many others :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:




Yep, despite apparent 'promise' before he arrived, the success of Zohore is purely down to Neil Warnock, his coaching team and the boy himself! :thumbup:

The so-called Transfer Committee and previous coach(es) have been shown up for what they are (or were) respectively, i.e. not up to the job of picking out and/or developing players that will advance this club! ;)

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:37 pm

Thought the committee only sanctioned the purchase of players ? And it's the manager who picks the player he wants? Having said that it shows how poor trollope was in motivating developing players! As NW as basically same team trollope had except for 2 players. :thumbup:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:45 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Thought the committee only sanctioned the purchase of players ? And it's the manager who picks the player he wants? Having said that it shows how poor trollope was in motivating developing players! As NW as basically same team trollope had except for 2 players. :thumbup:

4 players Allan, don't forget McGregor & Halford.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:46 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Thought the committee only sanctioned the purchase of players ? And it's the manager who picks the player he wants? Having said that it shows how poor trollope was in motivating developing players! As NW as basically same team trollope had except for 2 players. :thumbup:





Allan, I refer to a post a couple of days ago where Neil Warnock (a little tongue in cheek) states that Vincent Tan tries to pick his players and questions his choices (Noone's non-selection in recent times being one of them)

Seems to confirm that 'weaker' managers (I bet he's never met a man like Neil Warnock in his life! LOL :laughing6: ) were able to be influenced by those above them and I also agree that it appears Paul Trollope was unable to motivate :ayatollah:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:50 pm

Sven wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Thought the committee only sanctioned the purchase of players ? And it's the manager who picks the player he wants? Having said that it shows how poor trollope was in motivating developing players! As NW as basically same team trollope had except for 2 players. :thumbup:





Allan, I refer to a post a couple of days ago where Neil Warnock (a little tongue in cheek) states that Vincent Tan tries to pick his players and questions his choices (Noone's non-selection in recent times being one of them)

Seems to confirm that 'weaker' managers (I bet he's never met a man like Neil Warnock in his life! LOL :laughing6: ) were able to be influenced by those above them and I also agree that it appears Paul Trollope was unable to motivate :ayatollah:



What will say is while agree about being influenced by tan ect we are by no means unique several clubs have interfering owners ! That's modern football just glad got NW to sort out tan!!! :laughing6:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:00 pm

I would have thought the transfer committee is dead in the water.
:bluescarf: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:01 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Sven wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Thought the committee only sanctioned the purchase of players ? And it's the manager who picks the player he wants? Having said that it shows how poor trollope was in motivating developing players! As NW as basically same team trollope had except for 2 players. :thumbup:





Allan, I refer to a post a couple of days ago where Neil Warnock (a little tongue in cheek) states that Vincent Tan tries to pick his players and questions his choices (Noone's non-selection in recent times being one of them)

Seems to confirm that 'weaker' managers (I bet he's never met a man like Neil Warnock in his life! LOL :laughing6: ) were able to be influenced by those above them and I also agree that it appears Paul Trollope was unable to motivate :ayatollah:



What will say is while agree about being influenced by tan ect we are by no means unique several clubs have interfering owners ! That's modern football just glad got NW to sort out tan!!! :laughing6:





I think Neil Warnock is a match for Vincent Tan! LOL :lol:

Yep, look at Leicester City right now. Their owners are reportedly at the club incessantly, watching everything that occurs and are more 'hands on' than our owner is!

I've never wanted a club (and its supporters) to be relegated so much after the treatment of Claudio Ranieri...and I include Swansea in that statement!

The Venky's at Blackburn Rovers are another example :ayatollah:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:52 pm

Sven wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Sven wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Thought the committee only sanctioned the purchase of players ? And it's the manager who picks the player he wants? Having said that it shows how poor trollope was in motivating developing players! As NW as basically same team trollope had except for 2 players. :thumbup:





Allan, I refer to a post a couple of days ago where Neil Warnock (a little tongue in cheek) states that Vincent Tan tries to pick his players and questions his choices (Noone's non-selection in recent times being one of them)

Seems to confirm that 'weaker' managers (I bet he's never met a man like Neil Warnock in his life! LOL :laughing6: ) were able to be influenced by those above them and I also agree that it appears Paul Trollope was unable to motivate :ayatollah:



What will say is while agree about being influenced by tan ect we are by no means unique several clubs have interfering owners ! That's modern football just glad got NW to sort out tan!!! :laughing6:





I think Neil Warnock is a match for Vincent Tan! LOL :lol:

Yep, look at Leicester City right now. Their owners are reportedly at the club incessantly, watching everything that occurs and are more 'hands on' than our owner is!

I've never wanted a club (and its supporters) to be relegated so much after the treatment of Claudio Ranieri...and I include Swansea in that statement!

The Venky's at Blackburn Rovers are another


example :ayatollah:



It's all these foreign owners who don't understand the psyche of British football clubs? :old:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:02 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Totally agree with Wez here, either the transfer committee are responsible for all the transfers or none of them.

No doubt Lambert was Trollope choice but the committee get the blame so by the same token they would deserve the praise for authorising Warnocks signs of Hoilett and Bamba.

It seems like I'm not allowed to praise the club ,certain people think coz I don't agree with them it's a negative post which it certainly isn't

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
barry boy wrote:what would Warnock have managed to improve with the other talented players that Slade got rid of....those that Ole bought. ?


Warnock would of had us top 2,with the players that Slade had. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Warnock doesn't fancy some of slades players
Whitts o keefe adeymi brought in Bamba straight away

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:11 pm

Notice quite a few saying our bench was weak / poor
Whitts and pilks were part of of the bench yesterday
And he had youth on Thier that loads-are crying out for
Come on what do you want ffs

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:37 pm

barry boy wrote:what would Warnock have managed to improve with the other talented players that Slade got rid of....those that Ole bought. ?


As Annis said, top two easy. Whatever people say about Ole, there's no question that he put together a bloody superb squad of players ahead of our first season back in this league. Just didn't work out, but if Warnock had been the one to come in and not Slade, he'd have worked wonders.

Given the board were always saying how we wanted to play exciting football, still amazes me that Slade was allowed to shift on all our quality attaching signings. Guess money was more important at the time, but Slade really did do a massive amount of damage to us.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:14 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Also Hoilett and Bamba the committee are doing very well recently


Wez, you honestly don't know what your on about,they are both Warnocks players and Warnock has already stated if Nottingham Forest had given him the job,they were both going to Forest with him,before he had the Cardiff job.

Only you would start negative/sarcastic posts when everyone is happy and on a high,I would swear you like to only cause upset and divide.

Annis you can't have it both ways your always slagging off the transfer committee if a player is signed they got to go through the committee since the Ole days,I'm giving the committee credit coz recently the whole committee is working better ,but you can't cherry pick the bad ones then not give credit for the good decision? This isn't a negative post this is a very positive post as it is working much better than before, your putting the negative spin on it as you can't never give credit to the club/tan


This post is spot on.

We can add Jazz , Morrison, McGregor, Bennett, Pilkington,Manga etc to the good signings we've made.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:12 pm

You can add Peltier to the list.

Don't get me wrong there has been some players signed that have been a complete waste of space also.

Malone was a decent signing but many people on here slated him and I think he would have done a decent job for us this season under Warnock also.

The player I would like to see back under Warnock is Saadi - he is scoring goals on loan and under the astute management of Warnock can see him doing as well as Zohore.

Agreed though you can't have it all ways. I feel though with the committee and Warnock in place we will not get tucked up paying stupid wages for over the hill or poor players.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:22 pm

And with Immers another transfer commitee signing to a certain extent he was an okay signing yes he faded completely but can't forget he started very well. :ayatollah:

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:56 pm

Bluearmy1 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Also Hoilett and Bamba the committee are doing very well recently


Wez, you honestly don't know what your on about,they are both Warnocks players and Warnock has already stated if Nottingham Forest had given him the job,they were both going to Forest with him,before he had the Cardiff job.

Only you would start negative/sarcastic posts when everyone is happy and on a high,I would swear you like to only cause upset and divide.

Annis you can't have it both ways your always slagging off the transfer committee if a player is signed they got to go through the committee since the Ole days,I'm giving the committee credit coz recently the whole committee is working better ,but you can't cherry pick the bad ones then not give credit for the good decision? This isn't a negative post this is a very positive post as it is working much better than before, your putting the negative spin on it as you can't never give credit to the club/tan


This post is spot on.

We can add Jazz , Morrison, McGregor, Bennett, Pilkington,Manga etc to the good signings we've made.

Forgot about those tbh I think they've done alright recently

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:14 pm

Dobbin wrote:You can add Peltier to the list.

Don't get me wrong there has been some players signed that have been a complete waste of space also.

Malone was a decent signing but many people on here slated him and I think he would have done a decent job for us this season under Warnock also.
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Malones problem wasn't because he was no good. It was because Fabio was in outstanding form every time he took to the field so instead he was either subbed or not selected. While at the same time we are told the club is skint so rather than making do with the squad that was inherited (much as NW has done), Slade needed to go out and sign Malone thus spending money on a portion that was not a priority. The weak points of the squad have been self evident for a couple of seasons. It was wasting money really. I understand signing Pelts because we sold Brayford. That was fine. Like for like. If you are operating on a budget you should be assessing what is there. Using and improving. That which you can't improve, ship it out and then get someone you trust in. Same goes for the likes of Revell and Doyle. They weren't needed. They cost money. There was no compensating player movements out of the squad. NW has done more to balance the books in a couple of months than the previous managers did in all their time IMHO. AND he has worked with and improved what he does has.

Most weeks in the past we would have discussions on why was so and so playing or why was someone else over looked. We don't have that with NW. We know now what his strongest match squad is. We know he will be picking up on who is in form or how he wants to tweak his tactics so by and large selection is a moot point.

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:18 pm

position not portion! Autocorrect sorry

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:20 pm

Annis, stop being so negative about our owner. He's doing a fantastic job and is now leading by example.

Everytime i see you dismiss Tan's good work it really aggravates me, and no I don't care how you can't forgive him

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:48 pm

BlueNetMinder wrote:Annis, stop being so negative about our owner. He's doing a fantastic job and is now leading by example.

Everytime i see you dismiss Tan's good work it really aggravates me, and no I don't care how you can't forgive him

I don't get it how annis praises sam Hammam but can't do the same to tan ,the rebrand is done and dusted and mistakes learnt from all sides

Re: Zohore and the transfer committee

Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:38 pm

Surely this is a joke?

The committee sign Zohore who is terrible until Warnock arrives. Now he's hit form with the new management team, and it's the committee who take the plaudits? :lol:

Don't buy that, sorry.