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Cardiff City fans back your club

As other posters have alluded to, the club have done all they can to reconnect with supporters , and it almost feels as if the damage done with the ill fated rebrand has been assigned to history.

With FFP still a concern, is there any reason why those who stoppped attending will not purchase a season ticket and buy into Neil Warnock vision?

I hope, with correct pricing, we shift 18,000 season tickets for next season. NO more excuses, back Neil Warnock. :blue scarf:



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Not a chance in hell of 18 k st at the moment it is all talk we all know this team aren't good enough to get promoted until players and quality players at that are signed nothing will change



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Has to be 18000 at least if we want success

Cardiff fans the masters of finding excuses to stay away - until the team are on the verge of promotion that is, or until a top six Premier League team gets drawn in one of the Cups.

No excuses then.

The sooner people just accept our fan base for what it is the better.

Spot on rv

We have 15K core fans with a further 10K fair weather supporters and another 10K football fans who would hitch themselves to the CCFC mast if we made a fist of the premier league.

The sooner people just accept our fan base for what it is the better.

And mate what is our fan base?

The sooner people just accept our fan base for what it is the better.

And mate what is our fan base?

Pretty much what the fella above has said and he is being generous.

We had a 7-8 year peak which all started after the FA Cup Final when they did that thing that if you bought a season ticket you would get a Cup Final ticket plus the 5 year price freeze culminating in the 5 years of 'almost making it to the Premiership'.

If you go back through time since the 60's our average attendance for this level of Football fluctuates from anything between 21,000 when towards the top and as low as 4,500 when at the bottom.

We are getting more now for this level than when we first came up from Division 2, we are getting more than we were getting at the same level in the 60's and 70's and absolutely smashing what we were getting at this level in the 80's.

We are mid-table in the second tier, we will get around 15-17,000 today depending on what Fulham bring, we have come a long way and our crowds have increased dramatically, the only people that are staying away are the ones who will only come back if we get to the Premiership, nobody else is staying away, in fact more and more are coming.

People who think we are suddenly going to get 20,000+ against Fulham whilst mid-table are living in cloud cuckoo land mate, not trying to be disrespectful by saying that but it's true. We havn't go the fans for it and never have.

The sooner people just accept our fan base for what it is the better.

And mate what is our fan base?

Pretty much what the fella above has said and he is being generous.

We had a 7-8 year peak which all started after the FA Cup Final when they did that thing that if you bought a season ticket you would get a Cup Final ticket plus the 5 year price freeze culminating in the 5 years of 'almost making it to the Premiership'.

If you go back through time since the 60's our average attendance for this level of Football fluctuates from anything between 21,000 when towards the top and as low as 4,500 when at the bottom.

We are getting more now for this level than when we first came up from Division 2, we are getting more than we were getting at the same level in the 60's and 70's and absolutely smashing what we were getting at this level in the 80's.

We are mid-table in the second tier, we will get around 15-17,000 today depending on what Fulham bring, we have come a long way and our crowds have increased dramatically, the only people that are staying away are the ones who will only come back if we get to the Premiership, nobody else is staying away, in fact more and more are coming.

People who think we are suddenly going to get 20,000+ against Fulham whilst mid-table are living in cloud cuckoo land mate, not trying to be disrespectful by saying that but it's true. We havn't go the fans for it and never have.

Cracking post, and spot on with what you say, why are people making such a fuss about it. I'm not going today, it's raining and I like the Egg, the Pub beckons. It wouldn't make any difference to me if we were top either.

Just arrived at ground it's very quiet considering only 1hr to KO

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This topic has become a bit of a bore, almost an obsession. RV is spot on,we are who we are. Not a Shef weds or Derby who have been born on top flight football years ago. We are CArdiff city and once again feel proud. We have always had a huge fickle support, but our hardcore has actually grown. 17 k today is an improvement for a mid table team. We will get 20 next season, I will say this. If warnock can't ignite us nobody can. Embrace it boys we are on the up.

Very good posts.when you consider our only golden era was the 1920s I doubt blame anyone being fickle or picking or choosing.

The sooner people just accept our fan base for what it is the better.

And mate what is our fan base?

Pretty much what the fella above has said and he is being generous.

We had a 7-8 year peak which all started after the FA Cup Final when they did that thing that if you bought a season ticket you would get a Cup Final ticket plus the 5 year price freeze culminating in the 5 years of 'almost making it to the Premiership'.

If you go back through time since the 60's our average attendance for this level of Football fluctuates from anything between 21,000 when towards the top and as low as 4,500 when at the bottom.

We are getting more now for this level than when we first came up from Division 2, we are getting more than we were getting at the same level in the 60's and 70's and absolutely smashing what we were getting at this level in the 80's.

We are mid-table in the second tier, we will get around 15-17,000 today depending on what Fulham bring, we have come a long way and our crowds have increased dramatically, the only people that are staying away are the ones who will only come back if we get to the Premiership, nobody else is staying away, in fact more and more are coming.

People who think we are suddenly going to get 20,000+ against Fulham whilst mid-table are living in cloud cuckoo land mate, not trying to be disrespectful by saying that but it's true. We havn't go the fans for it and never have.

Cracking post, and spot on with what you say, why are people making such a fuss about it. I'm not going today, it's raining and I like the Egg, the Pub beckons. It wouldn't make any difference to me if we were top either.

I think you can't compare historical crowds to where we are today. Demographically we have a much larger fan base that in the past, so much so we probably have an extra 200,000 people in our catchment area of say 20 years ago. In addition, we are more of a family club now that ever before where the City is a safe place to take women and children and the facilities on offer at the stadium we play in are 5 star UEFA rated.

It pains me when I read posts like yours as they have no substance what so ever in the contents.

The sooner people just accept our fan base for what it is the better.

And mate what is our fan base?

Pretty much what the fella above has said and he is being generous.

We had a 7-8 year peak which all started after the FA Cup Final when they did that thing that if you bought a season ticket you would get a Cup Final ticket plus the 5 year price freeze culminating in the 5 years of 'almost making it to the Premiership'.

If you go back through time since the 60's our average attendance for this level of Football fluctuates from anything between 21,000 when towards the top and as low as 4,500 when at the bottom.

We are getting more now for this level than when we first came up from Division 2, we are getting more than we were getting at the same level in the 60's and 70's and absolutely smashing what we were getting at this level in the 80's.

We are mid-table in the second tier, we will get around 15-17,000 today depending on what Fulham bring, we have come a long way and our crowds have increased dramatically, the only people that are staying away are the ones who will only come back if we get to the Premiership, nobody else is staying away, in fact more and more are coming.

People who think we are suddenly going to get 20,000+ against Fulham whilst mid-table are living in cloud cuckoo land mate, not trying to be disrespectful by saying that but it's true. We havn't go the fans for it and never have.

Cracking post, and spot on with what you say, why are people making such a fuss about it. I'm not going today, it's raining and I like the Egg, the Pub beckons. It wouldn't make any difference to me if we were top either.

I think you can't compare historical crowds to where we are today. Demographically we have a much larger fan base that in the past, so much so we probably have an extra 200,000 people in our catchment area of say 20 years ago. In addition, we are more of a family club now that ever before where the City is a safe place to take women and children and the facilities on offer at the stadium we play in are 5 star UEFA rated.

It pains me when I read posts like yours as they have no substance what so ever in the contents.

I agree with RV Casual. There are not many stay aways at the minute, this is our normal attendance given where we are. There may be more people living in the area, but they are not City supporters. It is up to the club to try and reach out to attract a new audience, but times have changed, and modern lifestyle means it is more difficult to get people into the stadium on a Saturday afternoon, and a lot more expensive than it was many years back. Success will attract more people as it always does with any team in any sport. A few more incentives such as our old "junior bluebirds" may help, particularly as these are the fans of the future.

We have 15K core fans with a further 10K fair weather supporters and another 10K football fans who would hitch themselves to the CCFC mast if we made a fist of the premier league.

I disagree.
We're getting about that now under Warnock with good entertaining and exciting football but if we were still under Trollope in the bottom three we'd be getting around 10,000 if we were lucky.
Our 'core' is lower than 15,000.

Whatever the demographics the facts remain you me or anyone reading this under the age of 70 has never seen city lift a trophy or compete successfully in the top flight.

The sooner people just accept our fan base for what it is the better.

And mate what is our fan base?

Pretty much what the fella above has said and he is being generous.

We had a 7-8 year peak which all started after the FA Cup Final when they did that thing that if you bought a season ticket you would get a Cup Final ticket plus the 5 year price freeze culminating in the 5 years of 'almost making it to the Premiership'.

If you go back through time since the 60's our average attendance for this level of Football fluctuates from anything between 21,000 when towards the top and as low as 4,500 when at the bottom.

We are getting more now for this level than when we first came up from Division 2, we are getting more than we were getting at the same level in the 60's and 70's and absolutely smashing what we were getting at this level in the 80's.

We are mid-table in the second tier, we will get around 15-17,000 today depending on what Fulham bring, we have come a long way and our crowds have increased dramatically, the only people that are staying away are the ones who will only come back if we get to the Premiership, nobody else is staying away, in fact more and more are coming.

People who think we are suddenly going to get 20,000+ against Fulham whilst mid-table are living in cloud cuckoo land mate, not trying to be disrespectful by saying that but it's true. We havn't go the fans for it and never have.

Cracking post, and spot on with what you say, why are people making such a fuss about it. I'm not going today, it's raining and I like the Egg, the Pub beckons. It wouldn't make any difference to me if we were top either.

I think you can't compare historical crowds to where we are today. Demographically we have a much larger fan base that in the past, so much so we probably have an extra 200,000 people in our catchment area of say 20 years ago. In addition, we are more of a family club now that ever before where the City is a safe place to take women and children and the facilities on offer at the stadium we play in are 5 star UEFA rated.

It pains me when I read posts like yours as they have no substance what so ever in the contents.

You have just answered your own point though, demographically we have a much larger fan base than in the past you are correct and it is for that reason why our crowds are now bigger!!

Before 2004 the last time we were in the second tier of English Football was 1985 where we averaged 4,363, yes that's right, 4,363. Just under 20 years later which you have highlighted, playing at the same level we averaged 15,569. This season, 33 years on and we are averaging 16,133, we have pretty much QUADRUPLED our support in the last 33 seasons despite the fact we have played 18 seasons in that time in the bottom two divisions, had very very limited success, been through a horrendous re-brand among other numerous other things.

Despite all that, as I said, our crowds have QUADRUPLED, yet you have people coming on here talking about fans that are staying away and predicting crowds of 20,000 plus against Fulham. What exactly is any of this based on? It is complete fantasy and the sooner people wake up and smell the coffee the better.

2010–11 23,193 Championship 4th
2011–12 22,100. Championship 6th
2012–13 22,998. Championship 1st
2013–14 27,429. Premier League 20th
2014–15 21,123 Championship 11th
2015–16 16,254 Championship 8th


Well the facts are, that our average crowds in recent times are faily impressive. So much so that we would probably sell out the stadium if we were promoted to the Premier League in the next year or so.

What part of the above statistics gives you the impression that we can't achieve 18,000 season tickets when we have previously?

When you talk about division 4 days, the fan base was mainly young men and OAP's as the place was not ideal for families and young supporters. I started going in 84,and it was kicking off every game.

Reckon any more would come back if we changed the badge back?

Reckon any more would come back if we changed the badge back?

No

Whatever the demographics the facts remain you me or anyone reading this under the age of 70 has never seen city lift a trophy or compete successfully in the top flight.

Winning the championship trophy was a fantastic achievement, with gas left in the tank too..!

Whatever the demographics the facts remain you me or anyone reading this under the age of 70 has never seen city lift a trophy or compete successfully in the top flight.

Winning the championship trophy was a fantastic achievement, with gas left in the tank too..!

For me that was amazing and we have had Wembley after Wembley appearance

Many other clubs have won nothing for 50plus years including clubs like Bradford,Huddersfield etc

2010–11 23,193 Championship 4th
2011–12 22,100. Championship 6th
2012–13 22,998. Championship 1st
2013–14 27,429. Premier League 20th
2014–15 21,123 Championship 11th
2015–16 16,254 Championship 8th


Well the facts are, that our average crowds in recent times are faily impressive. So much so that we would probably sell out the stadium if we were promoted to the Premier League in the next year or so.

What part of the above statistics gives you the impression that we can't achieve 18,000 season tickets when we have previously?

When you talk about division 4 days, the fan base was mainly young men and OAP's as the place was not ideal for families and young supporters. I started going in 84,and it was kicking off every game.

Last post from me on this as we are just going round in circles.

Nobody on this thread has said we could not sell 18,000 season tickets next season, on the contrary, we could as our support over the last 30 years has GROWN and in the main MORE people are coming to watch our games than are STAYING AWAY as you claim.

When playing in this league, and in a similar position in the table our crowds are as high as they have ever been, including recent history and even better than when we first came up from Division 2.

As states already, the only people that are not watching us at the moment are those that will only ever come back if we get back into the Premier League, they are not coming back to watch us play Fulham in a mid table game.

It's in the DNA of our Club through history, be it years ago or recent.

From 1922-1932 we went from 32,760 to 7,008 a drop of 25,572 stopped coming to watch us , then by 1948 we were back up to 37,871 so in 16 years we had gained 30,863 fans again but were back down to 15,366 by 1958 so had been ditched by by a whopping 15,497 in the space of 10 years as soon as a bit of success had stopped.

By the early 1970's we were back up to 21,500 and then crashed back down to as low as 2,800 by the late 1980's, 18,000 fans deserting us. From 1986, 18 season's in the bottom two division saw us only break the 10,000 barrier twice and that was on the turn of the millennium and the push for Division 1.

Despite being proclaimed as a 'Sleeping Giant' for years and years, even by myself, when we eventually got to the First Division and played the likes of Derby County, West Ham, Nottingham Forest, West Bromwich Albion etc etc which were HUGE game at the time we only averages 15,569, our crowds were as low as 13-14,000 for some games.

By 2006 after only being in the division for 2 season our average was down to 11,720 despite an 11th place finished and the 'Sleeping Giant' tag had been shown to be fantasy.

We had a run of 7 season's of good crowds which has painted a false picture of our true fan base. We had 18,000 the one season due to the FA Cup Final and people buying season tickets to guarantee a ticket for it, then 4 years of 20,000+ due to the Golden Ticket fiasco and the fact we were knocking on the Premier League Door and had finished of 4th, 4th, 6th and then Champions. 27,000 in the Premiership which was to be expected and then 21,000 the following season due to the fact people had renewed in the hope we would survive, back down to 16,463 last season and averaging, 16,133 this season.

All in all it's actually amazing that we are getting this many and it shows that in the main, more people are actually continuing to watch us as opposed to staying away.

We have one of the most fickle fan bases going, South Wales is a place where people are 'eventists' and as I said the sooner people accept our fan base for what it is and lose the obsession with what has never been the better.