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Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:42 am

Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:45 am

wez1927 wrote:Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore


Oh here he goes. We have one of the best nights and all he can come out with is negativity. Then again I think someone is on a windup.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:55 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore


Oh here he goes. We have one of the best nights and all he can come out with is negativity. Then again I think someone is on a windup.

I'm talking football you bellend,our midfield is much more mobile it not negative it's positive

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:56 am

wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore


Oh here he goes. We have one of the best nights and all he can come out with is negativity. Then again I think someone is on a windup.

I'm talking football you bellend,our midfield is much more mobile it not negative it's positive


Bollocks. Your lookig for a windup but wasting your time. The guy is most likely still in bed recovering from his addiction.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:59 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore


Oh here he goes. We have one of the best nights and all he can come out with is negativity. Then again I think someone is on a windup.

I'm talking football you bellend,our midfield is much more mobile it not negative it's positive


Bollocks. Your lookig for a windup but wasting your time. The guy is most likely still in bed recovering from his addiction.

Bullshit your just a bellend it's a fact that our midfield is more mobile now and we are seeing the rewards if you dont like what I post then don't answer you tosser

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:03 am

wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore


Oh here he goes. We have one of the best nights and all he can come out with is negativity. Then again I think someone is on a windup.

I'm talking football you bellend,our midfield is much more mobile it not negative it's positive


Bollocks. Your lookig for a windup but wasting your time. The guy is most likely still in bed recovering from his addiction.

Bullshit your just a bellend it's a fact that our midfield is more mobile now and we are seeing the rewards if you dont like what I post then don't answer you tosser


I think you post shit stirring stuff. That's alright but don't start getting wound up when challenged. You know the saying "If you can't take it don't start it".

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:06 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore


Oh here he goes. We have one of the best nights and all he can come out with is negativity. Then again I think someone is on a windup.

I'm talking football you bellend,our midfield is much more mobile it not negative it's positive


Bollocks. Your lookig for a windup but wasting your time. The guy is most likely still in bed recovering from his addiction.

Bullshit your just a bellend it's a fact that our midfield is more mobile now and we are seeing the rewards if you dont like what I post then don't answer you tosser


I think you post shit stirring stuff. That's alright but don't start getting wound up when challenged. You know the saying "If you can't take it don't start it".

It's my opinion backed up by facts instead of trolling me how about backing up your words ????? We won our most games this season without whitts our midfield is more mobile is it not ?????

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:21 am

At the moment it is the case,but things will change,injuries,suspensions,dips in form and sometimes horses for courses.I believe we still need Whitts and hope he signs the new contract.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:25 am

theclaw wrote:At the moment it is the case,but things will change,injuries,suspensions,dips in form and sometimes horses for courses.I believe we still need Whitts and hope he signs the new contract.

I think he's not a starter anymore his lack of pace and warnocks style just don't suit the team maybe he still has a role in the squad but I wouldn't break the bank for him ,his large wages could be put to better use

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:32 am

What a post, grow up guys!

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:35 am

I totally and utterly agree with you for once Wez......Baked is a massive bellend. :thumbup:

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:36 am

Sorry polo but im the biggest bellend in this thread, seems that we are name calling like kids :laughing6:
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Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:37 am

polo wrote:I totally and utterly agree with you for once Wez......Baked is a massive bellend. :thumbup:

:lol:

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:39 am

Stringfellow wrote:What a post, grow up guys!

I posted an opinion then the thread got derailed once again by baked the bellend , it's not a wind up just stating that our midfield has been much better and mobile without whitts

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:41 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Our midfield without Whitts is much more mobile and affective ,sadly his days are numbered the facts don't lie we win more games without him in the team, great servant to the club but just not effective for us anymore


Oh here he goes. We have one of the best nights and all he can come out with is negativity. Then again I think someone is on a windup.


Pointless trolling

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:51 am

Have to agree with everything Wez has said spot on.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:54 am

wez1927 wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:What a post, grow up guys!

I posted an opinion then the thread got derailed once again by baked the bellend , it's not a wind up just stating that our midfield has been much better and mobile without whitts


It's a decent enough post but derailed by someone who's just full of his own self importance by the sounds of it.

I disagree regarding Whitts. As a big fan of his he still has a big part to play with us I believe. Yes, at the moment we're doing fine but we'll need him soon.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:57 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:What a post, grow up guys!

I posted an opinion then the thread got derailed once again by baked the bellend , it's not a wind up just stating that our midfield has been much better and mobile without whitts


It's a decent enough post but derailed by someone who's just full of his own self importance by the sounds of it.

I disagree regarding Whitts. As a big fan of his he still has a big part to play with us I believe. Yes, at the moment we're doing fine but we'll need him soon.

Cheers,I think he has a part to play in the squad but don't think he's a starter anymore just not mobile enough for the way warnock plays, I just wouldn't break the bank for him as I think we could use his high wages next season for a better player

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:04 am

wez1927 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:What a post, grow up guys!

I posted an opinion then the thread got derailed once again by baked the bellend , it's not a wind up just stating that our midfield has been much better and mobile without whitts


It's a decent enough post but derailed by someone who's just full of his own self importance by the sounds of it.

I disagree regarding Whitts. As a big fan of his he still has a big part to play with us I believe. Yes, at the moment we're doing fine but we'll need him soon.

Cheers,I think he has a part to play in the squad but don't think he's a starter anymore just not mobile enough for the way warnock plays, I just wouldn't break the bank for him as I think we could use his high wages next season for a better player


I get where you're coming from with Warnocks style of play etc but I still think he'll start games this season.
But perhaps not an automatic starter.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:10 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:What a post, grow up guys!

I posted an opinion then the thread got derailed once again by baked the bellend , it's not a wind up just stating that our midfield has been much better and mobile without whitts


It's a decent enough post but derailed by someone who's just full of his own self importance by the sounds of it.

I disagree regarding Whitts. As a big fan of his he still has a big part to play with us I believe. Yes, at the moment we're doing fine but we'll need him soon.

Cheers,I think he has a part to play in the squad but don't think he's a starter anymore just not mobile enough for the way warnock plays, I just wouldn't break the bank for him as I think we could use his high wages next season for a better player


I get where you're coming from with Warnocks style of play etc but I still think he'll start games this season.
But perhaps not an automatic starter.

I thonk Warnock looks at a team and if they are slow he will play Whitts

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:34 am

He'll probably have a role to play this season to cover injuries and suspensions but I'm not sure he's a Warnock type player and I wouldn't bet on him being here next season.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:45 am

He will probably start Saturday for Halford. Wouldn't bet on him being here next season but if he does go I would put my house on him being a big hit elsewhere!

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:52 am

I'm Spartacus :thumbright:

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:56 am

Nickoblue23 wrote:He will probably start Saturday for Halford. Wouldn't bet on him being here next season but if he does go I would put my house on him being a big hit elsewhere!


This ^^^^^

I agree hes hes not a Warnock type player and with some of the recent away performances thats justified however I do think at home when you need to break teams down and have less space on the counter attack then you need more craft than a midfield of Halford / Gunnar / Ralls.

Personally, I get the feeling Warnock doesnt want him and this so-called contract offer hes just paying lip service to the fans. Reading between the lines hes been offered a shit contract so the club can say they "tried" to keep him but in reality they havent. I think they are trying to make it look like its Whitts decision to leave which is poor form given the service Whitts has given this club.

Id like to see him move onto pastures new instead of spending the final years of his career warming the bench and being made a scapegoat by knuckledraggers like Wez and Trooblue.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:10 am

It's a SQUAD game. He still has an important role to play, just a less frequent one. Warnock adapts and makes changes when they're needed.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:32 am

I am probably one of the biggest Whitts supporters on this board but, in my opinion, it is almost impossible to argue the case for his regular inclusion in a team which has won 6 of the last 9 League games. The 3 games lost in that run were against Brighton, Reading and Norwich all defeats by the odd goal and Whitts started in only 1.

During this run of games NW has pretty much stayed with the same spine to the team, McGregor or Murphy, Morrison and Bamba, Gunnarsonn and Ralls with Zohore as the lone striker. Other than that NW has changed the other players on a regular basis like the last two away games by including Halford as the defensive midfield player protecting the back 4 the Gunnarsonn / Ralls CM partnership. The results speak for themselves.

This Saturday does anyone believe NW will start at Home against the bottom team in the League with Halford as the defensive midfield player? I don't and with the spine of the team picking itself and Harris and Noone surely having earned their place in the team who will replace Halford. I don't think it will be Whitts and it's far more likely to be Hoilett or Healey playing higher of the field with Zohore. Where does that leave Whitts?

It's easy to rubbish a club Legend by suggesting he lacks pace and mobility and our midfield is much better without him, can anyone seriously suggest that, for instance, the last two away wins are purely down to the midfield partnership of Gunnarsonn and Ralls. Really? Neither of them are blessed with pace or fantastic mobility but boy as the hardworking CM partnership they are making a massive contribution to the team, as Morrison and Bamba, so is Zohore and the same applies to McGregor and Murphy.

Right now as the OP rightly states Whitts is nothing more than a squad player, but what a squad player, but to suggest he is no longer effective is laughable. Right now Whitts has hit more accurate "Key Passes", 47, than any other player in the Championship this season, he is equal 4th in Championship assists, he has had just 9 unsuccessful touches and lost possession just 9 times. In comparison Gunnarsonn has 17 and 13 and Ralls it's 24 and 28 respectively. I could go on with passing accuracy, shooting accuracy but all that will show is Whitts is superior not just to the current CM partnership but to any other player at the club.

NW has turned results around and right now he has found a set up which is bringing results and if he is here next season we can expect to see an improvement in the quality of the players in our squad. NW is one record as saying he wants improved quality "Up Front" next season and he will need players of delivering quality supply to them and I have no doubt we have that player already. Whitts.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:41 am

castleblue wrote:
NW has turned results around and right now he has found a set up which is bringing results and if he is here next season we can expect to see an improvement in the quality of the players in our squad. NW is one record as saying he wants improved quality "Up Front" next season and he will need players of delivering quality supply to them and I have no doubt we have that player already. Whitts.



That's how I see it with Whitts.

We have never replaced a player like Chopra that Whitts can supply to. If we do bring in a striker of Chopra ilk then we will see the Whiits being able to use one of his best arenals and that being his eagle eye to deliver that pass that breaks defences.

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:45 pm

It started with Malky in the promotion season dropping him in the latter stages of that season and I think every manager since has had a dabble doing the same,but to his credit he don't moan and always seems to come back.Dont right him off just yet :notworthy:

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:14 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:What a post, grow up guys!

I posted an opinion then the thread got derailed once again by baked the bellend , it's not a wind up just stating that our midfield has been much better and mobile without whitts


It's a decent enough post but derailed by someone who's just full of his own self importance by the sounds of it.

I disagree regarding Whitts. As a big fan of his he still has a big part to play with us I believe. Yes, at the moment we're doing fine but we'll need him soon.


I agree and I posted before, won't play a big part but will play an important part and more likely at home. The did however score 4 away with a supposedly less creative team. Hmmmm

Re: Our midfield without Whitts

Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:42 pm

castleblue wrote:I am probably one of the biggest Whitts supporters on this board but, in my opinion, it is almost impossible to argue the case for his regular inclusion in a team which has won 6 of the last 9 League games. The 3 games lost in that run were against Brighton, Reading and Norwich all defeats by the odd goal and Whitts started in only 1.

During this run of games NW has pretty much stayed with the same spine to the team, McGregor or Murphy, Morrison and Bamba, Gunnarsonn and Ralls with Zohore as the lone striker. Other than that NW has changed the other players on a regular basis like the last two away games by including Halford as the defensive midfield player protecting the back 4 the Gunnarsonn / Ralls CM partnership. The results speak for themselves.

This Saturday does anyone believe NW will start at Home against the bottom team in the League with Halford as the defensive midfield player? I don't and with the spine of the team picking itself and Harris and Noone surely having earned their place in the team who will replace Halford. I don't think it will be Whitts and it's far more likely to be Hoilett or Healey playing higher of the field with Zohore. Where does that leave Whitts?

It's easy to rubbish a club Legend by suggesting he lacks pace and mobility and our midfield is much better without him, can anyone seriously suggest that, for instance, the last two away wins are purely down to the midfield partnership of Gunnarsonn and Ralls. Really? Neither of them are blessed with pace or fantastic mobility but boy as the hardworking CM partnership they are making a massive contribution to the team, as Morrison and Bamba, so is Zohore and the same applies to McGregor and Murphy.

Right now as the OP rightly states Whitts is nothing more than a squad player, but what a squad player, but to suggest he is no longer effective is laughable. Right now Whitts has hit more accurate "Key Passes", 47, than any other player in the Championship this season, he is equal 4th in Championship assists, he has had just 9 unsuccessful touches and lost possession just 9 times. In comparison Gunnarsonn has 17 and 13 and Ralls it's 24 and 28 respectively. I could go on with passing accuracy, shooting accuracy but all that will show is Whitts is superior not just to the current CM partnership but to any other player at the club.

NW has turned results around and right now he has found a set up which is bringing results and if he is here next season we can expect to see an improvement in the quality of the players in our squad. NW is one record as saying he wants improved quality "Up Front" next season and he will need players of delivering quality supply to them and I have no doubt we have that player already. Whitts.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Great post and, as a huge fan of Whitts, one I agree whole heartedly with.
The thing is the 'knuckledraggers' as polo calls them still cannot see it as he doesn't run around like Robbie Savage.