" HOW MUCH WOULD BE ENOUGH? "

Assuming Warnock stays next season and the club back him in the summer, how much do you think would be enough to mount a serious challenge for a top six place?

Another question, who out of the current set of players would be good enough to be included in the first choice 18 - if all fit?

Where are the key areas we'd need to strengthen?

It's not a question of how much we spend on players but can we afford the wages of anyone of quality as got to get them to come here!

It's not a question of how much we spend on players but can we afford the wages of anyone of quality as got to get them to come here!

Allan, we have cleared massive wages from the lowest DVP wages to the top.

A few more deadwoods to go and I reckon Warnock would get us a top 6 place spending £10mill.
Amos will be gone.
We need Lambert gone asap and if Manga and Whitts stay it will be on a lot lower wages.

If we look like promotion material we will get the money back in in gate receipts,sponsorship and merchandise sales

It's not a question of how much we spend on players but can we afford the wages of anyone of quality as got to get them to come here!

Allan, we have cleared massive wages from the lowest DVP wages to the top.

A few more deadwoods to go and I reckon Warnock would get us a top 6 place spending £10mill.
Amos will be gone.
We need Lambert gone asap and if Manga and Whitts stay it will be on a lot lower wages.

If we look like promotion material we will get the money back in in gate receipts,sponsorship and merchandise sales

Agree NW already as brought back the feel good factor which will encourage more fans next season ! And seeing as he knows what he wants next season I envisage good season for us. But saying this ffp can still be a factor but sure will work through it:thumbup:

It's not a question of how much we spend on players but can we afford the wages of anyone of quality as got to get them to come here!

Allan, we have cleared massive wages from the lowest DVP wages to the top.

A few more deadwoods to go and I reckon Warnock would get us a top 6 place spending £10mill.
Amos will be gone.
We need Lambert gone asap and if Manga and Whitts stay it will be on a lot lower wages.

If we look like promotion material we will get the money back in in gate receipts,sponsorship and merchandise sales

Agree NW already as brought back the feel good factor which will encourage more fans next season ! And seeing as he knows what he wants next season I envisage good season for us. But saying this ffp can still be a factor but sure will work through it:thumbup:

Allan, Warnock certainly has and it's getting our fans slowly returning
As to the ffp, the committee use that when they suddenly don't want to spend, yet they have still wasted so much money yet again this season.

It's not a question of how much we spend on players but can we afford the wages of anyone of quality as got to get them to come here!

Allan, we have cleared massive wages from the lowest DVP wages to the top.

A few more deadwoods to go and I reckon Warnock would get us a top 6 place spending £10mill.
Amos will be gone.
We need Lambert gone asap and if Manga and Whitts stay it will be on a lot lower wages.

If we look like promotion material we will get the money back in in gate receipts,sponsorship and merchandise sales

Agree NW already as brought back the feel good factor which will encourage more fans next season ! And seeing as he knows what he wants next season I envisage good season for us. But saying this ffp can still be a factor but sure will work through it:thumbup:

Allan, Warnock certainly has and it's getting our fans slowly returning
As to the ffp, the committee use that when they suddenly don't want to spend, yet they have still wasted so much money yet again this season.

Tbh annis try not to get into the financial side of city as so many different slants on it but cannot see it being in way next season as NW says only need certain amount to do the business?

It's not a question of how much we spend on players but can we afford the wages of anyone of quality as got to get them to come here!

Allan, we have cleared massive wages from the lowest DVP wages to the top.

A few more deadwoods to go and I reckon Warnock would get us a top 6 place spending £10mill.
Amos will be gone.
We need Lambert gone asap and if Manga and Whitts stay it will be on a lot lower wages.

If we look like promotion material we will get the money back in in gate receipts,sponsorship and merchandise sales

Agree NW already as brought back the feel good factor which will encourage more fans next season ! And seeing as he knows what he wants next season I envisage good season for us. But saying this ffp can still be a factor but sure will work through it:thumbup:

Allan, Warnock certainly has and it's getting our fans slowly returning
As to the ffp, the committee use that when they suddenly don't want to spend, yet they have still wasted so much money yet again this season.

Tbh annis try not to get into the financial side of city as so many different slants on it but cannot see it being in way next season as NW says only need certain amount to do the business?

Your do right by that Allan
But yes your right Warnock has stated strongly he can do it on a small budget

It's not a question of how much we spend on players but can we afford the wages of anyone of quality as got to get them to come here!

Allan, we have cleared massive wages from the lowest DVP wages to the top.

A few more deadwoods to go and I reckon Warnock would get us a top 6 place spending £10mill.
Amos will be gone.
We need Lambert gone asap and if Manga and Whitts stay it will be on a lot lower wages.

If we look like promotion material we will get the money back in in gate receipts,sponsorship and merchandise sales

Agree NW already as brought back the feel good factor which will encourage more fans next season ! And seeing as he knows what he wants next season I envisage good season for us. But saying this ffp can still be a factor but sure will work through it:thumbup:

Allan, Warnock certainly has and it's getting our fans slowly returning
As to the ffp, the committee use that when they suddenly don't want to spend, yet they have still wasted so much money yet again this season.

Tbh annis try not to get into the financial side of city as so many different slants on it but cannot see it being in way next season as NW says only need certain amount to do the business?

Your do right by that Allan
But yes your right Warnock has stated strongly he can do it on a small budget

And to me there is no doubt he will be here next season as nothing he's said makes me think otherwise!

6-8m with Warnocks experience and contacts in the market will get us enough. We need a winger, striker and center midfielder all fit and ready to hit the ground running at an absolute minimum.

I said 6 million

he'll need about three £2-3 million pound players, but should get returns on Saadi, Huws, O'Keefe,Kennedy and huge amount of salary to get free's in

I said 6 million

he'll need about three £2-3 million pound players, but should get returns on Saadi, Huws, O'Keefe,Kennedy and huge amount of salary to get free's in

One or two of them might even save us a few bob if he wants to keep them

I said 6 million

he'll need about three £2-3 million pound players, but should get returns on Saadi, Huws, O'Keefe,Kennedy and huge amount of salary to get free's in

One or two of them might even save us a few bob if he wants to keep them

Not sure what the saadi story was, did he settle ? But he looks a few million quids worth at the moment and i am sure Warnock isn't trying to build a dynasty just a one season promotion team, so i just can't see any gambles on unknowns and he maybe that.

We need a goalkeeper a central creative midfielder 2 wingers and 2 strikers work that lot out ten million

Ive gone for £8 million, Malky did it with 10, but had to build from scratch, this squad is already decent and Warnock for me, is a better manager

Looking at the money that others spent I feel we may need 10 million plus

I said 6 million

he'll need about three £2-3 million pound players, but should get returns on Saadi, Huws, O'Keefe,Kennedy and huge amount of salary to get free's in

One or two of them might even save us a few bob if he wants to keep them

Not sure what the saadi story was, did he settle ? But he looks a few million quids worth at the moment and i am sure Warnock isn't trying to build a dynasty just a one season promotion team, so i just can't see any gambles on unknowns and he maybe that.

No idea but one way or another he was out a long time and needed games, but he also needed to prove himself and seems to be doing that. Prehaps Warnock will think he's ready now, or Prehaps well take an offer for him and reinvest it...

It's about the over all budget that the club agree with warnock for next season
Then it's up to him how much of the budget he uses to buy players
The way I see it if we buy a player for say 2 million he will want 20k+ a week in wages that means 3 million of the budget gone
Now if we get a free who is out of contract and pay him 30k a week that's only 1.5 million of the budget
Now I'm not saying that's the way to go I'm saying let's leave/ trust warnock to use the budget the best way
We should plead poverty and not let other teams know how much we got to spend our finances should be kept in house ,not out in the open for all to see
Our most consistant player this season came for no fee Bamba
Warnock also brought in holliet halford mc Gregor on wages only
Yes I know he tried chamak and Richardson but they were also wages only short term deals and he got rid quickly
This shows warnock can work to budgets
Our budget for next season will surely be the same as this season as a minimum ,so with what he gets rid of freeing up more of the budget for warnock to wheel and deal with ,we will be very competitive next season I'm sure.
The futures looking bright
The futures blue
The Bluebirds are on Thier way up
Can't wait for next season
But this season still has a long way to go
Take a sneaky look where we would be compared to derby if we beat them on Tuesday
That's right 5 points behind them ,with 14 games to go hmmmm

It's about the over all budget that the club agree with warnock for next season
Then it's up to him how much of the budget he uses to buy players
The way I see it if we buy a player for say 2 million he will want 20k+ a week in wages that means 3 million of the budget gone
Now if we get a free who is out of contract and pay him 30k a week that's only 1.5 million of the budget
Now I'm not saying that's the way to go I'm saying let's leave/ trust warnock to use the budget the best way
We should plead poverty and not let other teams know how much we got to spend our finances should be kept in house ,not out in the open for all to see
Our most consistant player this season came for no fee Bamba
Warnock also brought in holliet halford mc Gregor on wages only
Yes I know he tried chamak and Richardson but they were also wages only short term deals and he got rid quickly
This shows warnock can work to budgets
Our budget for next season will surely be the same as this season as a minimum ,so with what he gets rid of freeing up more of the budget for warnock to wheel and deal with ,we will be very competitive next season I'm sure.
The futures looking bright
The futures blue
The Bluebirds are on Thier way up
Can't wait for next season
But this season still has a long way to go
Take a sneaky look where we would be compared to derby if we beat them on Tuesday
That's right 5 points behind them ,with 14 games to go hmmmm

Derby are 8th, 5 points outside the play-offs so possibly 8 points off the play-offs if we beat them Tuesday so whats your point?

It's about the over all budget that the club agree with warnock for next season
Then it's up to him how much of the budget he uses to buy players
The way I see it if we buy a player for say 2 million he will want 20k+ a week in wages that means 3 million of the budget gone
Now if we get a free who is out of contract and pay him 30k a week that's only 1.5 million of the budget
Now I'm not saying that's the way to go I'm saying let's leave/ trust warnock to use the budget the best way
We should plead poverty and not let other teams know how much we got to spend our finances should be kept in house ,not out in the open for all to see
Our most consistant player this season came for no fee Bamba
Warnock also brought in holliet halford mc Gregor on wages only
Yes I know he tried chamak and Richardson but they were also wages only short term deals and he got rid quickly
This shows warnock can work to budgets
Our budget for next season will surely be the same as this season as a minimum ,so with what he gets rid of freeing up more of the budget for warnock to wheel and deal with ,we will be very competitive next season I'm sure.
The futures looking bright
The futures blue
The Bluebirds are on Thier way up
Can't wait for next season
But this season still has a long way to go
Take a sneaky look where we would be compared to derby if we beat them on Tuesday
That's right 5 points behind them ,with 14 games to go hmmmm

Steve, Very very positive post

But I hope Warnock gets a more than Trollope did and I expect Warnock to clear more players out,giving him more money

Looking at the money that others spent I feel we may need 10 million plus

the big difference is ,most others clubs balance these expensive purchases by selling assets.
Derby keeps being mentioned but they sold kendrick and a keeper to fund purchases.

It's about the over all budget that the club agree with warnock for next season
Then it's up to him how much of the budget he uses to buy players
The way I see it if we buy a player for say 2 million he will want 20k+ a week in wages that means 3 million of the budget gone
Now if we get a free who is out of contract and pay him 30k a week that's only 1.5 million of the budget
Now I'm not saying that's the way to go I'm saying let's leave/ trust warnock to use the budget the best way
We should plead poverty and not let other teams know how much we got to spend our finances should be kept in house ,not out in the open for all to see
Our most consistant player this season came for no fee Bamba
Warnock also brought in holliet halford mc Gregor on wages only
Yes I know he tried chamak and Richardson but they were also wages only short term deals and he got rid quickly
This shows warnock can work to budgets
Our budget for next season will surely be the same as this season as a minimum ,so with what he gets rid of freeing up more of the budget for warnock to wheel and deal with ,we will be very competitive next season I'm sure.
The futures looking bright
The futures blue
The Bluebirds are on Thier way up
Can't wait for next season
But this season still has a long way to go
Take a sneaky look where we would be compared to derby if we beat them on Tuesday
That's right 5 points behind them ,with 14 games to go hmmmm

Derby are 8th, 5 points outside the play-offs so possibly 8 points off the play-offs if we beat them Tuesday so whats your point?

I made quite a few points actually
But you have only questioned one
So I must be improving
Do opinions need a specific point
This is a forum it's open to debate
Why do you like to be so confrontational and just pick out bits of posts rather than the whole post

You told us to take a sneaky peak at the league. I did and I don't understand the point you're trying to make?

You say it's open debate but yet you don't like to be challenged? That's not a very open debate is it?

A wide range of answers here, which you'd expect. But the general feeling is that £5m-£10m would be the figure needed it seems.

Can we afford that and is it a risk worth taking for the club?

For that is what it is, a risk. Warnock has done well so far, and likely to do his job of keeping us up. But there is no guarantee he'll take us up with money to spend, or even to make the top six.