' Aston Villa and Norwich '

Both come down from the premier, villa lost again yesterday and remain on the same points as us.

It demonstrates you can't just throw money at it, for me villa will not be going up this season as the are not a team. Norwich are not having a walk in the park either, probably more suited to championship football than villa but also finding out life is not so easy in the championship.

I think Norwich might pinch a play off spot but can't see either making an immediate return the EPL.

Opinions?

Both come down from the premier, villa lost again yesterday and remain on the same points as us.

It demonstrates you can't just throw money at it, for me villa will not be going up this season as the are not a team. Norwich are not having a walk in the park either, probably more suited to championship football than villa but also finding out life is not so easy in the championship.

I think Norwich might pinch a play off spot but can't see either making an immediate return the EPL.

Opinions?

Villa's problems run deep mate, they were never going to bounce back at the first attempt, they have been imploding for years, I see them going the same way as Leeds.

I think there have been some problem's behind the scenes at Norwich, they appointed Jez Moxey as CEO in the Summer and he has just resigned which has been on the cards for weeks apparently and has coincided with an upturn in form for Norwich.

One could assume that maybe there were issues between the Manager and CEO and that the Clubs hierarchy have sided with the Manager?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38850146

I agree with you, I can see Norwich nicking a Play Off place and I wouldn't rule them out of winning them either as they have the experience of it.

Villa same points as us could end up getting dragged into the relegation battle.
their form is poor 1pt in 5 games with the 4 defeats all coming against teams in bottom half.