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Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:01 pm

The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:10 pm

Can't argue with that. Although if you are looking for support of that view then this is most certainly not the best place to start.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:30 pm

MY MRS SAID THE SAME THING WHEN IT WAS FIRST REPORTED, IF THAT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND AND A MUSLIM KILLED WHITE PPL THERE WOULD BE A STORY IN EVERY PAPER AND ON EVERY NEWS CHANNEL FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:52 pm

I was disgusted during the week in a debate with Wez on this board. First when I mentioned the terrorist attack (let's be honest, it's a terror attack whether it's 1 person dead or 2million).

Wez first responded with "it was a Muslim who killed them". To which I responded with a news article from BBC news with the name a photo of the terrorist in custody".

He then said, "It's a cover up" with a laughing icon.

Now Wez in my opinion is a Far Right Facist that follows the likes of Britain First. Anything that goes wrong in the world he blames Muslims. Yet this person is free to post what he likes. And even gets stickies on top of the board with his right wing agenda!

It's a sad reality that people do not care for human life when that human life isn't white, nor western.

Says alot about Donald Trump signing an executive order, about abortion in the US, because in his words "every human life deserves a chance". So why don't refugees who are fleeing war deserve a chance? Wait, I know why. Because they are the "wrong" colour, or pray to the "wrong" God.

#AllLivesMatter

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:57 pm

I'd say Wez is borderline extremist.. A bit surprised Annis saying he agree with him on politics.. As Roathie says, certainly not the place to discuss humanity.. Long ball anyone?

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:26 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:I'd say Wez is borderline extremist.. A bit surprised Annis saying he agree with him on politics.. As Roathie says, certainly not the place to discuss humanity.. Long ball anyone?

That's the problem with you numpty lefties on this thread if people like me believe in helping our own citizens your are classed as far right you lot make me laugh, I have very good friends of all different ethnic back grounds but the one thing we have in common is that none of us get on with Muslims remember muslim can also be of different colours ,very strange that,black, white indian Thai,eastern European,you lot preaching tolerance but under Islam there is none tolerance you are either a believer or not

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:45 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:I'd say Wez is borderline extremist.. A bit surprised Annis saying he agree with him on politics.. As Roathie says, certainly not the place to discuss humanity.. Long ball anyone?

That's the problem with you numpty lefties on this thread if people like me believe in helping our own citizens your are classed as far right you lot make me laugh, I have very good friends of all different ethnic back grounds but the one thing we have in common is that none of us get on with Muslims remember muslim can also be of different colours ,very strange that,black, white indian Thai,eastern European,you lot preaching tolerance but under Islam there is none tolerance you are either a believer or not


So do you think it is an awful act of terrorism that should not be tolerated then?

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:18 pm

bluemun wrote:The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

White supremacism is nurtured by Farrage and is just as dangerous as Jihadism,absolute bollox. Also the wall to wall coverage of the Jo Cox murder suggests the media treat Neo Nazis the same as every other crackpot group, indeed when it's a Muslim they tend to play the mental illness angle, something they don't do with white supremacists.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:20 pm

Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

White supremacism is nurtured by Farrage and is just as dangerous as Jihadism,absolute bollox. Also the wall to wall coverage of the Jo Cox murder suggests the media treat Neo Nazis the same as every other crackpot group, indeed when it's a Muslim they tend to play the mental illness angle, something they don't do with white supremacists.


Because Cox was a white Mum.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:21 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:I'd say Wez is borderline extremist.. A bit surprised Annis saying he agree with him on politics.. As Roathie says, certainly not the place to discuss humanity.. Long ball anyone?

That's the problem with you numpty lefties on this thread if people like me believe in helping our own citizens your are classed as far right you lot make me laugh, I have very good friends of all different ethnic back grounds but the one thing we have in common is that none of us get on with Muslims remember muslim can also be of different colours ,very strange that,black, white indian Thai,eastern European,you lot preaching tolerance but under Islam there is none tolerance you are either a believer or not

Indeed as Tommy Robinson said, we do live in a multi ethnic society, the only ones who want to isolate themselves are Muslms. Islam is not a religion it's a bastardised political ideology. If my refusal to tolerate Islamic intolerance makes me a bigot in the blinkered eyes of Leftwing cranks I couldn't give a fekk.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:24 pm

Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

White supremacism is nurtured by Farrage and is just as dangerous as Jihadism,absolute bollox. Also the wall to wall coverage of the Jo Cox murder suggests the media treat Neo Nazis the same as every other crackpot group, indeed when it's a Muslim they tend to play the mental illness angle, something they don't do with white supremacists.


Because Cox was a white Mum.

What an idiotic post

Compare the coverage of the Stephen Lawrence murder with that afforded Kris Donald (you'll probably have to Google young Kris)

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:32 pm

Jock wrote:
Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

White supremacism is nurtured by Farrage and is just as dangerous as Jihadism,absolute bollox. Also the wall to wall coverage of the Jo Cox murder suggests the media treat Neo Nazis the same as every other crackpot group, indeed when it's a Muslim they tend to play the mental illness angle, something they don't do with white supremacists.


Because Cox was a white Mum.

What an idiotic post

Compare the coverage of the Stephen Lawrence murder with that afforded Kris Donald (you'll probably have to Google young Kris)


Not idiotic at all, just factual.

White 'Christian' folk trump everyone, if one of those gets killed then there is outrage regardless of who did it. If a black 'christian' person gets killed then equal coverage maybe for different reasons though as the media like to incite racial divides rather than outrage on behalf of the victim (US police shootings, many on the police side without even knowing the story) If a muslim gets killed then it is little more than a side story.

Look at the coverage of the Paris attack, then look at the coverage of the massacre of Manbij which killed almost 100 Syrians. (You may need to google Manbij)

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:36 pm

Off to the gym now. I would be very interested to continue this on my return.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:00 pm

Great, Wez got a black friend, who is also against religious freedom. Attitude still stands though, doesn't it?
Muslims are the biggest threat to "our way of life", even if most muslims are against violence and terror.
When in reality, the biggest threat is resistant bacteria lol

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:01 pm

Judging by the way Muslims kill each over they're religion, not just in they're countries but also in UK, it's does make you think do Muslim lives matter?

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:12 pm

Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

White supremacism is nurtured by Farrage and is just as dangerous as Jihadism,absolute bollox. Also the wall to wall coverage of the Jo Cox murder suggests the media treat Neo Nazis the same as every other crackpot group, indeed when it's a Muslim they tend to play the mental illness angle, something they don't do with white supremacists.


Because Cox was a white Mum.

What an idiotic post

Compare the coverage of the Stephen Lawrence murder with that afforded Kris Donald (you'll probably have to Google young Kris)


Not idiotic at all, just factual.

White 'Christian' folk trump everyone, if one of those gets killed then there is outrage regardless of who did it. If a black 'christian' person gets killed then equal coverage maybe for different reasons though as the media like to incite racial divides rather than outrage on behalf of the victim (US police shootings, many on the police side without even knowing the story) If a muslim gets killed then it is little more than a side story.

Look at the coverage of the Paris attack, then look at the coverage of the massacre of Manbij which killed almost 100 Syrians. (You may need to google Manbij)

Just because you believe something doesn't make it factual, if you truly believe Jo Cox's murder wouldn't have received at least as much coverage had she been black you really need a check up from the neck up.
I'll give you some real facts: most black murder victims are killed by other blacks
Most Muslim victims are killed by other Muslims
BLM are as bad as the KKK. Lives matter irrespective of skin pigment, religion or political persuasion.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:13 pm

murphy wrote:Judging by the way Muslims kill each over they're religion, not just in they're countries but also in UK, it's does make you think do Muslim lives matter?

If it's a different flavour of Islam from their own , clearly not.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:27 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Great, Wez got a black friend, who is also against religious freedom. Attitude still stands though, doesn't it?
Muslims are the biggest threat to "our way of life", even if most muslims are against violence and terror.
When in reality, the biggest threat is resistant bacteria lol

You really dont know me at all I'm from a mixed race family from the docks ffs what a pleb, one side is white from my dad's side and one side is black from my mother's side my mother was raised in a West Indian household also my nans 2nd husband was a Christian of Pakistani decent I know more than anyone about multiculturalism but the fact is the people who moved to Cardiff after the 2nd world war integrated and we needed them the new people don't

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:30 pm

murphy wrote:Judging by the way Muslims kill each over they're religion, not just in they're countries but also in UK, it's does make you think do Muslim lives matter?

Great post makes you think the Muslim religion is about violence

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:40 pm

Jock wrote:
Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

White supremacism is nurtured by Farrage and is just as dangerous as Jihadism,absolute bollox. Also the wall to wall coverage of the Jo Cox murder suggests the media treat Neo Nazis the same as every other crackpot group, indeed when it's a Muslim they tend to play the mental illness angle, something they don't do with white supremacists.


Because Cox was a white Mum.

What an idiotic post

Compare the coverage of the Stephen Lawrence murder with that afforded Kris Donald (you'll probably have to Google young Kris)


Not idiotic at all, just factual.

White 'Christian' folk trump everyone, if one of those gets killed then there is outrage regardless of who did it. If a black 'christian' person gets killed then equal coverage maybe for different reasons though as the media like to incite racial divides rather than outrage on behalf of the victim (US police shootings, many on the police side without even knowing the story) If a muslim gets killed then it is little more than a side story.

Look at the coverage of the Paris attack, then look at the coverage of the massacre of Manbij which killed almost 100 Syrians. (You may need to google Manbij)

Just because you believe something doesn't make it factual, if you truly believe Jo Cox's murder wouldn't have received at least as much coverage had she been black you really need a check up from the neck up.
I'll give you some real facts: most black murder victims are killed by other blacks
Most Muslim victims are killed by other Muslims
BLM are as bad as the KKK. Lives matter irrespective of skin pigment, religion or political persuasion.


I don't believe in anything, I just say the facts of how things are. I didn't say if Jo Cox was black she wouldn't have got the same amount of coverage, in fact I said the opposite if you read it again. I said if she had been Muslim. Are you telling me the Muslim Cleric murder in New York received just as much coverage as the Murder of Jo Cox? Nonsense.

What has that black killing black stat got to do with anything? Do you understand what is being discussed? BLM are certainly not better than the KKK and to think otherwise suggests you really do not understand what either side represents or historically has stood for.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:42 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Great, Wez got a black friend, who is also against religious freedom. Attitude still stands though, doesn't it?
Muslims are the biggest threat to "our way of life", even if most muslims are against violence and terror.
When in reality, the biggest threat is resistant bacteria lol

You really dont know me at all I'm from a mixed race family from the docks ffs what a pleb, one side is white from my dad's side and one side is black from my mother's side my mother was raised in a West Indian household also my nans 2nd husband was a Christian of Pakistani decent I know more than anyone about multiculturalism but the fact is the people who moved to Cardiff after the 2nd world war integrated and we needed them the new people don't

But this is about religious heritage, is it not? Never mentioned race or culture heritage once..
But you are right. I don't know you, and I don't wish to know you. And this is based on your statements on human rights only.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:47 pm

So wez, you didn't answer.

Do you think this is a despicable act of terrorism that should not be tolerated?

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:50 pm

Iroas wrote:So wez, you didn't answer.

Do you think this is a despicable act of terrorism that should not be tolerated?

f**k off roathy :lol:

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:51 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Great, Wez got a black friend, who is also against religious freedom. Attitude still stands though, doesn't it?
Muslims are the biggest threat to "our way of life", even if most muslims are against violence and terror.
When in reality, the biggest threat is resistant bacteria lol

You really dont know me at all I'm from a mixed race family from the docks ffs what a pleb, one side is white from my dad's side and one side is black from my mother's side my mother was raised in a West Indian household also my nans 2nd husband was a Christian of Pakistani decent I know more than anyone about multiculturalism but the fact is the people who moved to Cardiff after the 2nd world war integrated and we needed them the new people don't

But this is about religious heritage, is it not? Never mentioned race or culture heritage once..
But you are right. I don't know you, and I don't wish to know you. And this is based on your statements on human rights only.

You said coz I got a black friend did you not hence my reply !you called me white supremacist which I'm clearly not

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:01 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Iroas wrote:So wez, you didn't answer.

Do you think this is a despicable act of terrorism that should not be tolerated?

f**k off roathy


Such a shame you act all bold but when asked a direct question you scuttle and hide because you know how it will expose you for what you are. What you fail to realise is that your uncomfortable and clear refusal to answer has almost the same result however. I sense you squirming from here.

The definition of a coward that doesn't even have the strength or courage to stand by his convictions. Typical British armchair fascist.

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:04 pm

Iroas wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Iroas wrote:So wez, you didn't answer.

Do you think this is a despicable act of terrorism that should not be tolerated?

f**k off roathy


Such a shame you act all bold but when asked a direct question you scuttle and hide because you know how it will expose you for what you are. What you fail to realise is that your uncomfortable and clear refusal to answer does has almost the same result however. I sense you squirming from here.

The definition of a coward that doesn't even have the strength or courage to stand by his convictions. Typical British armchair fascist.

:lol: weirdo

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:05 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Iroas wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Iroas wrote:So wez, you didn't answer.

Do you think this is a despicable act of terrorism that should not be tolerated?

f**k off roathy


Such a shame you act all bold but when asked a direct question you scuttle and hide because you know how it will expose you for what you are. What you fail to realise is that your uncomfortable and clear refusal to answer does has almost the same result however. I sense you squirming from here.

The definition of a coward that doesn't even have the strength or courage to stand by his convictions. Typical British armchair fascist.

weirdo


So again, you choose to scuttle and hide rather than expose yourself for what you are.

Coward. :thumbright:

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:05 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/762292 ... akbar-jail your mates roathy???

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:07 pm

wez1927 wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/762292/Rothernham-abuse-trial-Allah-akbar-jail your mates roathy???


Stop trolling and answer a simple question.

Do you think this is a despicable act of terrorism that should not be tolerated? If this attack happened on a church in Canton you would be beside yourself with anti semetic bile. So why so quiet on giving your view on this? Very telling indeed.

Now stand by your convictions or be seen as the coward you are (cue playground insult with smiley and another scuttle away). :lol:

Re: Muslim lives don't matter

Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:12 pm

Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
Iroas wrote:
Jock wrote:
bluemun wrote:The general reaction of the media to the murder of nine Muslims at a mosque in Quebec city has been in direct contrast to the reporting of atrocities carried out by jihadists.
The perpetrator was a white supremacist , a neo-Nazi and the relative lack of coverage only suggests that Muslim lives barely matter.
This is not an isolated incident and follows the murder of MP Jo Cox and fascist Dylann Roofe's attack on a Bible study group in the States.
White supremacism is fed and nurtured by Trump, Farage, Marine le Pen and their ilk.
Please help resist this at every level. It is just as dangerous as fundamentalist Jihadists.

White supremacism is nurtured by Farrage and is just as dangerous as Jihadism,absolute bollox. Also the wall to wall coverage of the Jo Cox murder suggests the media treat Neo Nazis the same as every other crackpot group, indeed when it's a Muslim they tend to play the mental illness angle, something they don't do with white supremacists.


Because Cox was a white Mum.

What an idiotic post

Compare the coverage of the Stephen Lawrence murder with that afforded Kris Donald (you'll probably have to Google young Kris)


Not idiotic at all, just factual.

White 'Christian' folk trump everyone, if one of those gets killed then there is outrage regardless of who did it. If a black 'christian' person gets killed then equal coverage maybe for different reasons though as the media like to incite racial divides rather than outrage on behalf of the victim (US police shootings, many on the police side without even knowing the story) If a muslim gets killed then it is little more than a side story.

Look at the coverage of the Paris attack, then look at the coverage of the massacre of Manbij which killed almost 100 Syrians. (You may need to google Manbij)

Just because you believe something doesn't make it factual, if you truly believe Jo Cox's murder wouldn't have received at least as much coverage had she been black you really need a check up from the neck up.
I'll give you some real facts: most black murder victims are killed by other blacks
Most Muslim victims are killed by other Muslims
BLM are as bad as the KKK. Lives matter irrespective of skin pigment, religion or political persuasion.


I don't believe in anything, I just say the facts of how things are. I didn't say if Jo Cox was black she wouldn't have got the same amount of coverage, in fact I said the opposite if you read it again. I said if she had been Muslim. Are you telling me the Muslim Cleric murder in New York received just as much coverage as the Murder of Jo Cox? Nonsense.

What has that black killing black stat got to do with anything? Do you understand what is being discussed? BLM are certainly not better than the KKK and to think otherwise suggests you really do not understand what either side represents or historically has stood for.



the big clue here is New York surely.