' Neil Warnock / Malky Mackay? '

' This will Shock you All '

As everyone Knows I was and still am a big Malky Mackay fan.

But I would rather have Neil Warnock over Malky anytime

I totally Respect Malky Mackay and he achieved a lot for Cardiff City

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Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

Yes he has a lot to catch up with Malky at Cardiff City I agree

But with 8 promotions and soon 6 clubs saved from relegation, Malky has a lot to catch up with Warnock there and I can't see that ever happening.

Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

We will never know because Warnock will never have much money to play with in comparison to Malky and Ole. When you consider what was spent on Cornelius, I doubt if Warnock total spend would amount to that if he stayed her for the next 3 years.

Cornelius was a cock up but we got promotion. He deserves huge respect for that. Ole crippled us with his thoughtless signings and constant tinkering. Didnt build a squad just bought whoever was available.

Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

Yes he has a lot to catch up with Malky at Cardiff City I agree

But with 8 promotions and soon 6 clubs saved from relegation, Malky has a lot to catch up with Warnock there and I can't see that ever happening.

Firstly , I should start by saying that I believe Neil Warnock is an excellent choice as manager of our club in the position we find ourselves in on the field. He is a strong motivational manager (he does very little coaching , leaving that to his assistants) to get the most out of a bad situation with the facilities he is given - a "Red Adair" of football (younger readers look it up).

His promotion credentials , though impressive , are mostly from long ago though. 5 of the 7 promotions his teams achieved were over 20 years ago , with only Sheff Utd (11 years ago) and QPR (6 years ago) being more recent. Because of his age, and because of the above recent record , he is almost certainly going to have to be replaced within a season or two at most. In the meantime , if he is backed, I believe he can lay the foundations for his successor to put together a squad that could challenge for a promotion in a few years.

In the short term , we also have to remember and appreciate that the club`s finances remain tricky. Last season , our parachute payment went down , was approximately halved again this current season and will remain at a base level of about £10m next season. After that the parachute money income will disappear altogether. This has to be taken into account in the budgets in continuing to comply with FFP requirements.

Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

Yes he has a lot to catch up with Malky at Cardiff City I agree

But with 8 promotions and soon 6 clubs saved from relegation, Malky has a lot to catch up with Warnock there and I can't see that ever happening.

Firstly , I should start by saying that I believe Neil Warnock is an excellent choice as manager of our club in the position we find ourselves in on the field. He is a strong motivational manager (he does very little coaching , leaving that to his assistants) to get the most out of a bad situation with the facilities he is given - a "Red Adair" of football (younger readers look it up).

His promotion credentials , though impressive , are mostly from long ago though. 5 of the 7 promotions his teams achieved were over 20 years ago , with only Sheff Utd (11 years ago) and QPR (6 years ago) being more recent. Because of his age, and because of the above recent record , he is almost certainly going to have to be replaced within a season or two at most. In the meantime , if he is backed, I believe he can lay the foundations for his successor to put together a squad that could challenge for a promotion in a few years.

In the short term , we also have to remember and appreciate that the club`s finances remain tricky. Last season , our parachute payment went down , was approximately halved again this current season and will remain at a base level of about £10m next season. After that the parachute money income will disappear altogether. This has to be taken into account in the budgets in continuing to comply with FFP requirements.

Keith, As you know I will never down Malky and appreciate everything he did for us.

But for 25 years I have been a big Neil Warnock and yes plenty was achieved in his early days.
I admire his straight talking,his attitude, his jokes, his winding up of the oppositions etc etc
I believe he can still do a great job for us

He saved Rotherham last season from relegation and looks like saving us this season and with NO real money

I agree about our finances, yet if we can waste big money on Lambert,Amos,Huws etc then surely we can find some money for Warnock?

Never thought I would hear you say that,fair play.

At the moment, 100% yes. Malky has had one promotion to Warnock's seven. But Malky has only had had about five years in management compared to Warnock's decades.

Malky has a lot of time to match or beat that, but you can't ignore the terrible job he did at Wigan. Warnock has struggled at some clubs, but not that much.

The job Warnock did at Rotherham last season was incredible. He's done a good job with us so far, and it's been quite the transformation from when Trollope was here.

As said above, though, he's coming towards the end of his management career and he's not a long term option. Would not be surprised if Warnock stayed next season but then handed over the reigns to Craig Bellamy.

Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

We will never know because Warnock will never have much money to play with in comparison to Malky and Ole. When you consider what was spent on Cornelius, I doubt if Warnock total spend would amount to that if he stayed her for the next 3 years.

Malky spent 15m the year we went up. And even less in his first year when we reached the play offs and cup final. Many managers have spent far more in the championship and got nowhere near the same return. He did spend a fortune in the prem but if we would have kept him we probably would have stayed up and no one would have complained. But it all worked out for the long run anyway as we're playing in blue again!

Malky is a w*nker

Biggest fraud in football

Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

We will never know because Warnock will never have much money to play with in comparison to Malky and Ole. When you consider what was spent on Cornelius, I doubt if Warnock total spend would amount to that if he stayed her for the next 3 years.

Malky spent 15m the year we went up. And even less in his first year when we reached the play offs and cup final. Many managers have spent far more in the championship and got nowhere near the same return. He did spend a fortune in the prem but if we would have kept him we probably would have stayed up and no one would have complained. But it all worked out for the long run anyway as we're playing in blue again!

15m the year we went up is like 30-40m now with the way prices have inflated in the last 5 years.

Malky has only made it at Cardiff (at this point I should remind you all that he had a huge transfer budget the second season), while Warnock has achieved good things at a handful of clubs, including QPR, Shefffield Utd and Crystal Palace. If you put Malky with a club similar to the situation we're in now - like when he went to Wigan - he didn't and wouldn't do a good job.

Malky did a fantastic job for us and I will never forget his philosophy of fitness, however there are a handful of managers who could've taken us to the Premiership that season - Warnock's one of them. Warnock is far better in my eyes

Warnock would far out strip Mackay as a manager if he had the same start.

10 players allows for you to personally build a squad. Warnock did not have this benefit. He has to dismantle while still getting results.

Also never forget that the true status of a manager is not just based on his success on the pitch.

Last edited by Wayne S on Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

warnock is a far better manager imo,malkay had millions to waste and even tho he done well with us it was at a cost to the club,warnock in my opinion is the best manager we have had in over a decade

Malky for me, spent nil first season achieved top 6 & Wembley

Malky for me, spent nil first season achieved top 6 & Wembley

Wrong

Malky has only made it at Cardiff (at this point I should remind you all that he had a huge transfer budget the second season), while Warnock has achieved good things at a handful of clubs, including QPR, Shefffield Utd and Crystal Palace. If you put Malky with a club similar to the situation we're in now - like when he went to Wigan - he didn't and wouldn't do a good job.

Malky did a fantastic job for us and I will never forget his philosophy of fitness, however there are a handful of managers who could've taken us to the Premiership that season - Warnock's one of them. Warnock is far better in my eyes

Done f*ck all at Watford and took Wigan down.

Just another in a long list of managers who got promoted from the Championship once in their career.

On a par with Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc

Chris/Polo I have realised your not a fan of either Warnock or Malky, who would you like as a manager for us ?

Chris/Polo I have realised your not a fan of either Warnock or Malky, who would you like as a manager for us ?

Craig Bellamy

Chris/Polo I have realised your not a fan of either Warnock or Malky, who would you like as a manager for us ?

Craig Bellamy

Interesting
At this current moment or in the future?

Chris/Polo I have realised your not a fan of either Warnock or Malky, who would you like as a manager for us ?

Craig Bellamy

Interesting
At this current moment or in the future?

In the summer and with a 3-5 year project so fans dont keeping putting pressure on the manager or the club.

We need to build something here not jumping from different style managers with their own players. Warnock just wants to bring in 30+ year olds and doesnt care for the future. Its what was required this season to help us stay up but theres no mid-long term strategy there.

I also think Tan will break the FFP rules to give Bellars a decent shot.

Chris/Polo I have realised your not a fan of either Warnock or Malky, who would you like as a manager for us ?

Craig Bellamy

Interesting
At this current moment or in the future?

In the summer and with a 3-5 year project so fans dont keeping putting pressure on the manager or the club.

We need to build something here not jumping from different style managers with their own players. Warnock just wants to bring in 30+ year olds and doesnt care for the future. Its what was required this season to help us stay up but theres no mid-long term strategy there.

I also think Tan will break the FFP rules to give Bellars a decent shot.

in all fairness, although Warnock brought in Bamba {32}.his team selections for us have revolved more around younger players.

Chris/Polo I have realised your not a fan of either Warnock or Malky, who would you like as a manager for us ?

Craig Bellamy

Interesting
At this current moment or in the future?

In the summer and with a 3-5 year project so fans dont keeping putting pressure on the manager or the club.

We need to build something here not jumping from different style managers with their own players. Warnock just wants to bring in 30+ year olds and doesnt care for the future. Its what was required this season to help us stay up but theres no mid-long term strategy there.

I also think Tan will break the FFP rules to give Bellars a decent shot.

Chris, I honestly don't think he is ready for manager City yet and needs a year or two coaching with the first team like he has started to do.

I would like Warnock to get a shot at it next season, then if he fails Bellamy should take the reigns the year after.

Malky inherited a squad of 10 players. Got us to the playoffs and nearly a league cup win.

Then we pissed the championship and he was keeping us in the premier league.

Warnock may be a better overall manager, however he has a way to go to top Malky

Yes he has a lot to catch up with Malky at Cardiff City I agree

But with 8 promotions and soon 6 clubs saved from relegation, Malky has a lot to catch up with Warnock there and I can't see that ever happening.

Firstly , I should start by saying that I believe Neil Warnock is an excellent choice as manager of our club in the position we find ourselves in on the field. He is a strong motivational manager (he does very little coaching , leaving that to his assistants) to get the most out of a bad situation with the facilities he is given - a "Red Adair" of football (younger readers look it up).

His promotion credentials , though impressive , are mostly from long ago though. 5 of the 7 promotions his teams achieved were over 20 years ago , with only Sheff Utd (11 years ago) and QPR (6 years ago) being more recent. Because of his age, and because of the above recent record , he is almost certainly going to have to be replaced within a season or two at most. In the meantime , if he is backed, I believe he can lay the foundations for his successor to put together a squad that could challenge for a promotion in a few years.

In the short term , we also have to remember and appreciate that the club`s finances remain tricky. Last season , our parachute payment went down , was approximately halved again this current season and will remain at a base level of about £10m next season. After that the parachute money income will disappear altogether. This has to be taken into account in the budgets in continuing to comply with FFP requirements.

although you are correct in that its just 2 promotions in 20 years i do think the clubs he has been with in the non promotion years have to be looked at. some premier lge relegation battles. taking palace from relegation candidates to play offs while broke and who ended up on admin.. rotherham who looked dead. leeds with no real financial clout.i dont think all things considered that there was one season where promotion was realistic but he failed.

Chris/Polo I have realised your not a fan of either Warnock or Malky, who would you like as a manager for us ?

Craig Bellamy

Interesting
At this current moment or in the future?

In the summer and with a 3-5 year project so fans dont keeping putting pressure on the manager or the club.

We need to build something here not jumping from different style managers with their own players. Warnock just wants to bring in 30+ year olds and doesnt care for the future. Its what was required this season to help us stay up but theres no mid-long term strategy there.

I also think Tan will break the FFP rules to give Bellars a decent shot.

in all fairness, although Warnock brought in Bamba {32}.his team selections for us have revolved more around younger players.

Of the 7 signings hes made, albeit 2 of them short term, 5 of them were/are 30+

I just hope he doesnt go for Clint Hill in the summer when hes out of contract at Rangers.

Thankfully Sean Derry has gone into management so it rules out signing him.

I couldnt care what anyone says Malky Mackay took Cardiff city in his first season very little money to top 6 and a cup final at wembley and put up a great game against one of the best teams in the premiership we only lost on penalties.

Following year took us to the premiership and if Tan didnt sack him I truly believe we would have stayed up

Warnock is one of my all time favourite managers in football I have always liked his love for the game his straight talking and in truth I was thrilled when we got him and my only wish we had him much sooner, with the support from Tan Warnock I believe can take us to the premiership with his knowledge and experience rubbed off on Bellamy this could be a very good time for City.

Malkys football was without the most dour boring football I have seen for 40 years considering the side he had and money he spent.

Malkys football was without the most dour boring football I have seen for 40 years considering the side he had and money he spent.

Malkys football was without the most dour boring football I have seen for 40 years considering the side he had and money he spent.