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" Championship club spend £13m "

Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:42 pm

Wolverhampton Wanderers have signed Helder Costa on a permanent deal for a reported £13m from Portuguese club Benfica.

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:01 pm

And they will have time to bed him in for next season

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:03 pm

I don't get how a team with 20k average attendance and are a mid table team can spend 13m on one player and are about to loan hanley from Newcastle and remain within ffp

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:04 pm

DEANO wrote:And they will have time to bed him in for next season


He's been on loan with them since the start of the season.

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:23 pm

He looks a decent player from the bits I have seen him but £13 mill is beyond stupid money.

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:39 pm

Reza wrote:I don't get how a team with 20k average attendance and are a mid table team can spend 13m on one player and are about to loan hanley from Newcastle and remain within ffp

The way around ffp rules, at least from what i know, is getting in investors. Lets say four parties divide the costs. Then Wolves only spent 3,25 million on him, but will only get 1/4 of the return in sales.
This way Wolves could buy 11 players for 143 million, but their financial record would only show 44 million, witch is the clubs investments. (This is a theory, not a factual number on their players..)

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:10 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Reza wrote:I don't get how a team with 20k average attendance and are a mid table team can spend 13m on one player and are about to loan hanley from Newcastle and remain within ffp

The way around ffp rules, at least from what i know, is getting in investors. Lets say four parties divide the costs. Then Wolves only spent 3,25 million on him, but will only get 1/4 of the return in sales.
This way Wolves could buy 11 players for 143 million, but their financial record would only show 44 million, witch is the clubs investments. (This is a theory, not a factual number on their players..)

That's bullshit

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:12 am

Reza wrote:I don't get how a team with 20k average attendance and are a mid table team can spend 13m on one player and are about to loan hanley from Newcastle and remain within ffp


They can do it because you are allowed to make a £39m loss over a rolling 3 year period and still comply with FFP rules.

In both 2013/14 and 2014/15 Forest made a profit (their 2015/16 accounts are not yet published).

The cost of signing the player will be spread over the length of his contract so if it`s 3 years , the accounts cost will only be just over £4m a season.

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:18 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Reza wrote:I don't get how a team with 20k average attendance and are a mid table team can spend 13m on one player and are about to loan hanley from Newcastle and remain within ffp

The way around ffp rules, at least from what i know, is getting in investors. Lets say four parties divide the costs. Then Wolves only spent 3,25 million on him, but will only get 1/4 of the return in sales.
This way Wolves could buy 11 players for 143 million, but their financial record would only show 44 million, witch is the clubs investments. (This is a theory, not a factual number on their players..)


Sorry , but your understanding of the rules is nonsense. No idea where you got this theory from.

The rules allow a total loss of £39m over a rolling three year period , so an average of £13m a season. Breaking the £13m in any one season does not break the FFP rules by itself as long as the £39m three year limit is not breached. The £13m a season average figure allows for a maximum of £8m a season in total by way of the introduction of new money by the club`s owners/investors.

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:48 am

ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Reza wrote:I don't get how a team with 20k average attendance and are a mid table team can spend 13m on one player and are about to loan hanley from Newcastle and remain within ffp

The way around ffp rules, at least from what i know, is getting in investors. Lets say four parties divide the costs. Then Wolves only spent 3,25 million on him, but will only get 1/4 of the return in sales.
This way Wolves could buy 11 players for 143 million, but their financial record would only show 44 million, witch is the clubs investments. (This is a theory, not a factual number on their players..)


Sorry , but your understanding of the rules is nonsense. No idea where you got this theory from.

The rules allow a total loss of £39m over a rolling three year period , so an average of £13m a season. Breaking the £13m in any one season does not break the FFP rules by itself as long as the £39m three year limit is not breached. The £13m a season average figure allows for a maximum of £8m a season in total by way of the introduction of new money by the club`s owners/investors.

I am strictly speaking on how to report lower cost on signing a player. It is done this way in many countries, with investment groups, or even agent owning a procentege. Here in Norway we have an investment group called hardball, doing this. Wether the FA allows this I can not say, but it is a wide practice.

Re: " Championship club spend £13m "

Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:04 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
ccfcsince1962 wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Reza wrote:I don't get how a team with 20k average attendance and are a mid table team can spend 13m on one player and are about to loan hanley from Newcastle and remain within ffp

The way around ffp rules, at least from what i know, is getting in investors. Lets say four parties divide the costs. Then Wolves only spent 3,25 million on him, but will only get 1/4 of the return in sales.
This way Wolves could buy 11 players for 143 million, but their financial record would only show 44 million, witch is the clubs investments. (This is a theory, not a factual number on their players..)


Sorry , but your understanding of the rules is nonsense. No idea where you got this theory from.

The rules allow a total loss of £39m over a rolling three year period , so an average of £13m a season. Breaking the £13m in any one season does not break the FFP rules by itself as long as the £39m three year limit is not breached. The £13m a season average figure allows for a maximum of £8m a season in total by way of the introduction of new money by the club`s owners/investors.

I am strictly speaking on how to report lower cost on signing a player. It is done this way in many countries, with investment groups, or even agent owning a procentege. Here in Norway we have an investment group called hardball, doing this. Wether the FA allows this I can not say, but it is a wide practice.



Third party ownership of a player is not allowed in UK football. I don`t believe it is allowed in many other major leagues in Europe either, so Norway or Scandinavia in general may be an exception.