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' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:48 am

Promotion push

Neil Warnock spoke out about his aim’s for next season after last night’s match

Neil Warnock:
"I said to them before the game, we’re looking to next season so show me who wants to be here and who can be here because this was the best team in the league. I asked them to show me who can cope with it, and I think there were a lot of plusses tonight."

"I can’t fault them – they gave me everything and their keeper has made a couple of great saves – but Brighton showed what we are looking at and it’s quite possible we can have a good time next season if we get the right people in."
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Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:55 am

Warnock needs to get rid of Richards, Morrison, Lambert, Zahore and Noone (unless he can make him consistent). He should build a team around Bamba, Manga and Gunnarrson.

If Tan wants to get his money back he needs to spend at least 5 million on new players. I believe Warnock is capable of delivering promotion if backed. The value of the club would probably treble if we got back to Premier league.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:07 am

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Warnock needs to get rid of Richards, Morrison, Lambert, Zahore and Noone (unless he can make him consistent). He should build a team around Bamba, Manga and Gunnarrson.

If Tan wants to get his money back he needs to spend at least 5 million on new players. I believe Warnock is capable of delivering promotion if backed. The value of the club would probably treble if we got back to Premier league.

Totally agree with this. If Morrison and the likes are here next season then we have no chance of promotion. If people can't see this then they are football blind.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:10 am

What about Halford, Huws, Gounogbe, O'Keefe, Connolly, Kennedy ,Saadi, Ralls go or stay ?

Lots of decisions to be made in the next few months

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:57 am

Remember Tan knows nothing about football and looking at the footballing decisions made at the club over the past few years, he does not appear to have learned much.

He probably expects Warnock to get promotion next season with next to nothing being made available other than can be generated by player sales.

Unfortunately we have nobody except perhaps Bamba who we could really expect to get more than £1m for.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:44 pm

I doubt its about fees, but wages. We have a player on supposedly £1.5 million a year who can barely last 20 mins and sits on either the physio's table or subs bench. Another legend on a million, probably Nooney is close to that figure as well. Thats just plain daft.

Sell Nooney, and we'll save 500K wages by the summer. We have won 2 and lost one without Whitts (but didn't complete any pass of any notice in that 4.5 hours), see what happens, but i would tread lightly there. Its Lambert thats the issue, he needs to leave, he can't do it at championship level anymore, well not the system we'll need to play.

You buy trouble or pay over the odds in this window. This squad with this manager will be mid table, but we won't be planning for next season until the close season, i think Warnock wants to start one or two things now ready for next season.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:08 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I doubt its about fees, but wages. We have a player on supposedly £1.5 million a year who can barely last 20 mins and sits on either the physio's table or subs bench. Another legend on a million, probably Nooney is close to that figure as well. Thats just plain daft.

Sell Nooney, and we'll save 500K wages by the summer. We have won 2 and lost one without Whitts (but didn't complete any pass of any notice in that 4.5 hours), see what happens, but i would tread lightly there. Its Lambert thats the issue, he needs to leave, he can't do it at championship level anymore, well not the system we'll need to play.

You buy trouble or pay over the odds in this window. This squad with this manager will be mid table, but we won't be planning for next season until the close season, i think Warnock wants to start one or two things now ready for next season.





It may just be me, but I think Lambert can still play a big part in ensuring safety this season, if he can regain the fitness he has so plainly lost with his inactivity and (latterly) injuries. I thought he was beginning to show what he was about until that awful leg injury and scored a couple of decent goals, including the one at Villa

I don't think he was ever going to be a world beater but he is/was a multi-capped England international striker and (Jay Bothroyd apart) they don't give those away for nothing! :ayatollah:

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:18 pm

Sven wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I doubt its about fees, but wages. We have a player on supposedly £1.5 million a year who can barely last 20 mins and sits on either the physio's table or subs bench. Another legend on a million, probably Nooney is close to that figure as well. Thats just plain daft.

Sell Nooney, and we'll save 500K wages by the summer. We have won 2 and lost one without Whitts (but didn't complete any pass of any notice in that 4.5 hours), see what happens, but i would tread lightly there. Its Lambert thats the issue, he needs to leave, he can't do it at championship level anymore, well not the system we'll need to play.

You buy trouble or pay over the odds in this window. This squad with this manager will be mid table, but we won't be planning for next season until the close season, i think Warnock wants to start one or two things now ready for next season.





It may just be me, but I think Lambert can still play a big part in ensuring safety this season, if he can regain the fitness he has so plainly lost with his inactivity and (latterly) injuries. I thought he was beginning to show what he was about until that awful leg injury and scored a couple of decent goals, including the one at Villa

I don't think he was ever going to be a world beater but he is/was a multi-capped England international striker and (Jay Bothroyd apart) they don't give those away for nothing! :ayatollah:



I agree. I was going to say that i believe the case of all three of our big guns may be to apply pressure for them to accept lower contract terms in Whitts case or moves in the Noones and Lamberts case, just to free up the squad.

After the window i expect those three names to be on the team sheet as they all are better than players who currently have the jersey.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:18 pm

Sven wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I doubt its about fees, but wages. We have a player on supposedly £1.5 million a year who can barely last 20 mins and sits on either the physio's table or subs bench. Another legend on a million, probably Nooney is close to that figure as well. Thats just plain daft.

Sell Nooney, and we'll save 500K wages by the summer. We have won 2 and lost one without Whitts (but didn't complete any pass of any notice in that 4.5 hours), see what happens, but i would tread lightly there. Its Lambert thats the issue, he needs to leave, he can't do it at championship level anymore, well not the system we'll need to play.

You buy trouble or pay over the odds in this window. This squad with this manager will be mid table, but we won't be planning for next season until the close season, i think Warnock wants to start one or two things now ready for next season.





It may just be me, but I think Lambert can still play a big part in ensuring safety this season, if he can regain the fitness he has so plainly lost with his inactivity and (latterly) injuries. I thought he was beginning to show what he was about until that awful leg injury and scored a couple of decent goals, including the one at Villa

I don't think he was ever going to be a world beater but he is/was a multi-capped England international striker and (Jay Bothroyd apart) they don't give those away for nothing! :ayatollah:


I'm not sure I agree mate, but the bigger question is can he play in Warnocks system of virtually one up front.
Especially as in the game against Burton when all we really did was lump it up into the channels for Zohore to chase for long periods.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:30 pm

You have to replace what you sell before you think about adding the special touches-
I think there is a rebuild job to do but I wouldn't expect a gutting

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:01 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I doubt its about fees, but wages. We have a player on supposedly £1.5 million a year who can barely last 20 mins and sits on either the physio's table or subs bench. Another legend on a million, probably Nooney is close to that figure as well. Thats just plain daft.

Sell Nooney, and we'll save 500K wages by the summer. We have won 2 and lost one without Whitts (but didn't complete any pass of any notice in that 4.5 hours), see what happens, but i would tread lightly there. Its Lambert thats the issue, he needs to leave, he can't do it at championship level anymore, well not the system we'll need to play.

You buy trouble or pay over the odds in this window. This squad with this manager will be mid table, but we won't be planning for next season until the close season, i think Warnock wants to start one or two things now ready for next season.





It may just be me, but I think Lambert can still play a big part in ensuring safety this season, if he can regain the fitness he has so plainly lost with his inactivity and (latterly) injuries. I thought he was beginning to show what he was about until that awful leg injury and scored a couple of decent goals, including the one at Villa

I don't think he was ever going to be a world beater but he is/was a multi-capped England international striker and (Jay Bothroyd apart) they don't give those away for nothing! :ayatollah:


I'm not sure I agree mate, but the bigger question is can he play in Warnocks system of virtually one up front.
Especially as in the game against Burton when all we really did was lump it up into the channels for Zohore to chase for long periods.




I see what you mean but Neil Warnock is smart enough to change his systems when need be. Zohore is very inconsistent and fails to do his actual job on quite a lot of occasions and I think giving Lambert some sort of extended run (even if not for 90 minutes per game) might prove he can still be an asset to the team during this season's run-in

We are not likely to get another striker in the window (I'm told the Hayes situation has died down considerably at least for now) and my attitude is "if we're paying him large amounts, make him work for it!" :thumbup: :laughing6:

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:15 pm

Sven wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I doubt its about fees, but wages. We have a player on supposedly £1.5 million a year who can barely last 20 mins and sits on either the physio's table or subs bench. Another legend on a million, probably Nooney is close to that figure as well. Thats just plain daft.

Sell Nooney, and we'll save 500K wages by the summer. We have won 2 and lost one without Whitts (but didn't complete any pass of any notice in that 4.5 hours), see what happens, but i would tread lightly there. Its Lambert thats the issue, he needs to leave, he can't do it at championship level anymore, well not the system we'll need to play.

You buy trouble or pay over the odds in this window. This squad with this manager will be mid table, but we won't be planning for next season until the close season, i think Warnock wants to start one or two things now ready for next season.





It may just be me, but I think Lambert can still play a big part in ensuring safety this season, if he can regain the fitness he has so plainly lost with his inactivity and (latterly) injuries. I thought he was beginning to show what he was about until that awful leg injury and scored a couple of decent goals, including the one at Villa

I don't think he was ever going to be a world beater but he is/was a multi-capped England international striker and (Jay Bothroyd apart) they don't give those away for nothing! :ayatollah:


I'm not sure I agree mate, but the bigger question is can he play in Warnocks system of virtually one up front.
Especially as in the game against Burton when all we really did was lump it up into the channels for Zohore to chase for long periods.




I see what you mean but Neil Warnock is smart enough to change his systems when need be. Zohore is very inconsistent and fails to do his actual job on quite a lot of occasions and I think giving Lambert some sort of extended run (even if not for 90 minutes per game) might prove he can still be an asset to the team during this season's run-in

We are not likely to get another striker in the window (I'm told the Hayes situation has died down considerably at least for now) and my attitude is "if we're paying him large amounts, make him work for it!" :thumbup: :laughing6:


Agree re Lambert. He should have started last night after Zahore's dismal display v Burton.

Concerning that if Warnock cannot get the best out of him who the heck can?

I would tell him he is staring on Saturday [in light of another tame display by Zahore] and to show the travelling bluebird fans that he has to give value to the money the club spend on him and the money the fans spend on away trips.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:20 pm

Danny Says wrote:
Sven wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I doubt its about fees, but wages. We have a player on supposedly £1.5 million a year who can barely last 20 mins and sits on either the physio's table or subs bench. Another legend on a million, probably Nooney is close to that figure as well. Thats just plain daft.

Sell Nooney, and we'll save 500K wages by the summer. We have won 2 and lost one without Whitts (but didn't complete any pass of any notice in that 4.5 hours), see what happens, but i would tread lightly there. Its Lambert thats the issue, he needs to leave, he can't do it at championship level anymore, well not the system we'll need to play.

You buy trouble or pay over the odds in this window. This squad with this manager will be mid table, but we won't be planning for next season until the close season, i think Warnock wants to start one or two things now ready for next season.





It may just be me, but I think Lambert can still play a big part in ensuring safety this season, if he can regain the fitness he has so plainly lost with his inactivity and (latterly) injuries. I thought he was beginning to show what he was about until that awful leg injury and scored a couple of decent goals, including the one at Villa

I don't think he was ever going to be a world beater but he is/was a multi-capped England international striker and (Jay Bothroyd apart) they don't give those away for nothing! :ayatollah:


I'm not sure I agree mate, but the bigger question is can he play in Warnocks system of virtually one up front.
Especially as in the game against Burton when all we really did was lump it up into the channels for Zohore to chase for long periods.




I see what you mean but Neil Warnock is smart enough to change his systems when need be. Zohore is very inconsistent and fails to do his actual job on quite a lot of occasions and I think giving Lambert some sort of extended run (even if not for 90 minutes per game) might prove he can still be an asset to the team during this season's run-in

We are not likely to get another striker in the window (I'm told the Hayes situation has died down considerably at least for now) and my attitude is "if we're paying him large amounts, make him work for it!" :thumbup: :laughing6:


Agree re Lambert. He should have started last night after Zahore's dismal display v Burton.

Concerning that if Warnock cannot get the best out of him who the heck can?

I would tell him he is staring on Saturday [in light of another tame display by Zahore] and to show the travelling bluebird fans that he has to give value to the money the club spend on him and the money the fans spend on away trips.


Lambert has certainly got more class and composure in front of goal than Zohore but the system would have to change where someone like Pilks or Healey would have to play right up there with him as he can't chase the balls we throw up there.
Less long balls and a more measured, passing attack would suit him better.

Re: ' Promotion push by Neil Warnock '

Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:58 pm

So zohore fault isit :lol:
It gos further than that, I think he does a good job, just needs someone close to him (healey) reckon that partnership would work well