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' The Govt Loses Brexit Appeal '

The Judges voted 8-3 against the Govt



Attorney General: Government 'disappointed' with Supreme Court decision

BBC News Channel

24/01/17

Attorney General Jeremy Wright, speaking on behalf of the government outside the Supreme Court, said "the government is disappointed with the outcome" of the judgement, but it will do everything it can "to comply with it".

He said the court made clear it was not trying to reverse the Brexit decision, but added that it will now "be a political matter and not a legal matter".

He added that Brexit Secretary David Davis will make a further statement in Parliament later today.

The UK government has lost its Article 50 case as the Supreme Court dismisses its appeal, meaning legislation to trigger Brexit must be brought before parliament.

24/01/17

The decision is one of the most important constitutional cases in British legal history.

The Supreme Court had ruled on whether or not Prime Minister Theresa May had the right to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to begin the process of leaving the European Union, or whether she must first obtain the consent of the British parliament.

In November, the British High Court ruled that the prime minister could not start the process of leaving the EU without first getting the consent of parliament.

The case was taken by, among others, businesswoman Gina Miller.



The High Court ruled that the rights British citizens enjoyed due to EU membership had been granted by parliament under the 1972 European Communities Act, and as such, they could only be taken away by parliament.

The ruling drew a furious response from Leave supporters and sections of the pro-Brexit press, with one paper calling the judges "enemies of the people".

The government appealed the decision, and in December a total of 11 judges heard detailed argument from both sides.

Here we go, bloody Nicola Krankie , Carwen ( I'm in it for myself ) Jones and Leanne ( I'm nearly in power ) Woods will all be on their soap boxes now. Just get on with it.

Here we go, bloody Nicola Krankie , Carwen ( I'm in it for myself ) Jones and Leanne ( I'm nearly in power ) Woods will all be on their soap boxes now. Just get on with it.

I say the same,lets just get on with it once and for all,its going to happen,so lets just do it.

I still can't understand why Carwyn Jones has not resigned,as Wales voted to leave,and he was pro stay.
That man is all self,no principles what so ever.
Let's get on with it, the politicians will just drag their feet.

I agree so lets do it right.It would be rather ironic if the brexiters said that much against this vote as its the British legal system that made this decision and we are all bound by it like it or not.This right was why we wanted to come out in the first place.

Hasn't parliament already has its vote on to trigger article 50 by March? Does this ruling really effect that ?

No big shock with that ruling, to be fair and the Government had already accepted it in private

The Government in power (i.e. the Tories) will simply push ahead with getting us out of Germany's EU Control Club and start putting the UK back on a self-governing path that allows the British people to control their own destiny

Other Parties will continue to selectively pontificate which parts of the British people voting 'OUT' actually means; whether it be Newly Divided Labour; the Lib Dumbs; the Green Party; the Monster Raving Loony Party; Carwyn Jones' Alternate Wales Labour Party; or Scotland's double act 'Krankies Independence Party' (with Alex Salmond playing the controlling patriarchal role of Ian Krankie and Nicola Sturgeon playing the part of the puppet Jimmy Krankie)

Just need to get on with it now and (not for the first time) we are probably better off with the Blues in charge of proceedings rather than the divided Reds!

The decision to vote out took some balls by the (majority) British people. Now Theresa May must heed the voting majority and stick to her words, "Out means fully out!" and I believe we will reap the benefits in the medium to long term!

No big shock with that ruling, to be fair and the Government had already accepted it in private

The Government in power (i.e. the Tories) will simply push ahead with getting us out of Germany's EU Control Club and start putting the UK back on a self-governing path that allows the British people to control their own destiny

Other Parties will continue to selectively pontificate which parts of the British people voting 'OUT' actually means; whether it be Newly Divided Labour; the Lib Dumbs; the Green Party; the Monster Raving Loony Party; Carwyn Jones' Alternate Wales Labour Party; or Scotland's double act 'Krankies Independence Party' (with Alex Salmond playing the controlling patriarchal role of Ian Krankie and Nicola Sturgeon playing the part of the puppet Jimmy Krankie)

Just need to get on with it now and (not for the first time) we are probably better off with the Blues in charge of proceedings rather than the divided Reds!

The decision to vote out took some balls by the (majority) British people. Now Theresa May must heed the voting majority and stick to her words, "Out means fully out!" and I believe we will reap the benefits in the medium to long term!

This was expected but I thought the vote on triggering article 50 before Christmas delt with this anyway ?

No big shock with that ruling, to be fair and the Government had already accepted it in private

The Government in power (i.e. the Tories) will simply push ahead with getting us out of Germany's EU Control Club and start putting the UK back on a self-governing path that allows the British people to control their own destiny

Other Parties will continue to selectively pontificate which parts of the British people voting 'OUT' actually means; whether it be Newly Divided Labour; the Lib Dumbs; the Green Party; the Monster Raving Loony Party; Carwyn Jones' Alternate Wales Labour Party; or Scotland's double act 'Krankies Independence Party' (with Alex Salmond playing the controlling patriarchal role of Ian Krankie and Nicola Sturgeon playing the part of the puppet Jimmy Krankie)

Just need to get on with it now and (not for the first time) we are probably better off with the Blues in charge of proceedings rather than the divided Reds!

The decision to vote out took some balls by the (majority) British people. Now Theresa May must heed the voting majority and stick to her words, "Out means fully out!" and I believe we will reap the benefits in the medium to long term!

This was expected but I thought the vote on triggering article 50 before Christmas delt with this anyway ?

Wez, you are correct

That is why this latest Ruling isn't a shock to anyone. The Government had been advised/conceded they would likely lose the case and the mechanism for triggering Article 50 has been agreed for some weeks

No big shock with that ruling, to be fair and the Government had already accepted it in private

The Government in power (i.e. the Tories) will simply push ahead with getting us out of Germany's EU Control Club and start putting the UK back on a self-governing path that allows the British people to control their own destiny

Other Parties will continue to selectively pontificate which parts of the British people voting 'OUT' actually means; whether it be Newly Divided Labour; the Lib Dumbs; the Green Party; the Monster Raving Loony Party; Carwyn Jones' Alternate Wales Labour Party; or Scotland's double act 'Krankies Independence Party' (with Alex Salmond playing the controlling patriarchal role of Ian Krankie and Nicola Sturgeon playing the part of the puppet Jimmy Krankie)

Just need to get on with it now and (not for the first time) we are probably better off with the Blues in charge of proceedings rather than the divided Reds!

The decision to vote out took some balls by the (majority) British people. Now Theresa May must heed the voting majority and stick to her words, "Out means fully out!" and I believe we will reap the benefits in the medium to long term!

This was expected but I thought the vote on triggering article 50 before Christmas delt with this anyway ?

Wez, you are correct

That is why this latest Ruling isn't a shock to anyone. The Government had been advised/conceded they would likely lose the case and the mechanism for triggering Article 50 has been agreed for some weeks

Which raises the question of why did they waste thousands of pounds of public money contesting a pointless case they knew they would lose? Will the person who sanctioned this waste resign? No, of course not.

No big shock with that ruling, to be fair and the Government had already accepted it in private

The Government in power (i.e. the Tories) will simply push ahead with getting us out of Germany's EU Control Club and start putting the UK back on a self-governing path that allows the British people to control their own destiny

Other Parties will continue to selectively pontificate which parts of the British people voting 'OUT' actually means; whether it be Newly Divided Labour; the Lib Dumbs; the Green Party; the Monster Raving Loony Party; Carwyn Jones' Alternate Wales Labour Party; or Scotland's double act 'Krankies Independence Party' (with Alex Salmond playing the controlling patriarchal role of Ian Krankie and Nicola Sturgeon playing the part of the puppet Jimmy Krankie)

Just need to get on with it now and (not for the first time) we are probably better off with the Blues in charge of proceedings rather than the divided Reds!

The decision to vote out took some balls by the (majority) British people. Now Theresa May must heed the voting majority and stick to her words, "Out means fully out!" and I believe we will reap the benefits in the medium to long term!

This was expected but I thought the vote on triggering article 50 before Christmas delt with this anyway ?

Wez, you are correct

That is why this latest Ruling isn't a shock to anyone. The Government had been advised/conceded they would likely lose the case and the mechanism for triggering Article 50 has been agreed for some weeks

Which raises the question of why did they waste thousands of pounds of public money contesting a pointless case they knew they would lose? Will the person who sanctioned this waste resign? No, of course not.

They didn't actually bring the Case to Court in the first place. It was bitter businesswoman Gina Miller

However, the Government, initially disappointed, took up their right of appeal but were soon advised it would probably go against them again, so they put in place actions (inc. the Parliamentary process for triggering Article 50) that would continue the process as smoothly as possible when/if it occurred

No resignation required. This was a simple case of the Government appealing a decision they didn't agree with (as thousands of people/businesses do every week) and they move on; thankfully with a process already in place to avoid further delays

What concerns me most about this is that I thought it was a ruling on a legal position. An interperatation of the LAW. If so, how did 3 judges see it otherwise? Makes you wonder about any other legal cases. These are the most senior judges in the land!!

It's only the people full of self importance that wanted to waste public money on something that was irrelevant in big sceme of things! All that will happen now is parliament will sanction article 50 as got backing of labour so totally a waste of time.

What concerns me most about this is that I thought it was a ruling on a legal position. An interperatation of the LAW. If so, how did 3 judges see it otherwise? Makes you wonder about any other legal cases. These are the most senior judges in the land!!

If you don't like it you can always appeal to a european court-if your quick.

Pointless, waste of people's time and money. Brexit is going to happen that's a given. Quite why people wasted their efforts on this evades me.

Months wasted by an arrogant government who thought they were "Above The Law". Now they have been brought to heel sit back and watch the SNP highjack the bill to make it "Legal" to implement Article 50 by god knows how many amendments.

The original bill for this referendum took 6 months to go the Parliament and there were only a few proposed amendments.

All this is down to Dodgy Dave Cameron who never believed there would EVER be a vote in favour of leaving so failed to include permission for the Government to trigger Article 50 in the case of a leave vote.

A shambles that could take months to sort out. I hope not but let's wait and see.

Months wasted by an arrogant government who thought they were "Above The Law". Now they have been brought to heel sit back and watch the SNP highjack the bill to make it "Legal" to implement Article 50 by god knows how many amendments.

The original bill for this referendum took 6 months to go the Parliament and there were only a few proposed amendments.

All this is down to Dodgy Dave Cameron who never believed there would EVER be a vote in favour of leaving so failed to include permission for the Government to trigger Article 50 in the case of a leave vote.

A shambles that could take months to sort out. I hope not but let's wait and see.

Supreme court ruled that Scotland Wales and Ireland's devolved powers do not need to be consulted.

Months wasted by an arrogant government who thought they were "Above The Law". Now they have been brought to heel sit back and watch the SNP highjack the bill to make it "Legal" to implement Article 50 by god knows how many amendments.

The original bill for this referendum took 6 months to go the Parliament and there were only a few proposed amendments.

All this is down to Dodgy Dave Cameron who never believed there would EVER be a vote in favour of leaving so failed to include permission for the Government to trigger Article 50 in the case of a leave vote.

A shambles that could take months to sort out. I hope not but let's wait and see.

Supreme court ruled that Scotland Wales and Ireland's devolved powers do not need to be consulted.

This delay is entirely due to whoever took govmnt to court and anymore delays will be caused by self interested groups like snp tabling lots of emendments which have no chance of being implemented!! Brexit as happened need to just get on with it! Hopefully the bill will be so small it will negate need for to many amendments

BLUE54 wrote:What concerns me most about this is that I thought it was a ruling on a legal position. An interperatation of the LAW. If so, how did 3 judges see it otherwise? Makes you wonder about any other legal cases. These are the most senior judges in the land!!


If you don't like it you can always appeal to a european court-if your quick.

No, I did not care which way this judgement went. It would make no difference anyway to the BREXIT process. My point was the discord between Supreme court judges on the interperatation of the law.

Months wasted by an arrogant government who thought they were "Above The Law". Now they have been brought to heel sit back and watch the SNP highjack the bill to make it "Legal" to implement Article 50 by god knows how many amendments.

The original bill for this referendum took 6 months to go the Parliament and there were only a few proposed amendments.

All this is down to Dodgy Dave Cameron who never believed there would EVER be a vote in favour of leaving so failed to include permission for the Government to trigger Article 50 in the case of a leave vote.

A shambles that could take months to sort out. I hope not but let's wait and see.

Agreed the blame for this lies firmly at the door of David Cameron who hopelessly got everything wrong about the EU referendum especially as it only had an 'advice' impact rather than a binding one.

Gillian Millar spotted an opportunity and for all her denials her real motivation was to try and sink Article 50. Thankfully that has failed but of course the SNP and Lib Dems will now look to frustrate things and water down the terms.

I believe the mood of the country has hardened since June and these silly stupid attempts to circumvent the will of the people has only galvanised the will to push us further away from that hopeless European basket case. It might take a bit longer but it will get there in the end.

BLUE54 wrote:What concerns me most about this is that I thought it was a ruling on a legal position. An interperatation of the LAW. If so, how did 3 judges see it otherwise? Makes you wonder about any other legal cases. These are the most senior judges in the land!!


If you don't like it you can always appeal to a european court-if your quick.

No, I did not care which way this judgement went. It would make no difference anyway to the BREXIT process. My point was the discord between Supreme court judges on the interperatation of the law.

I don't know if this is relevant but the younger judges (well those in their late 60's early 70's ) were the 3 that voted for the Government whilst the old cronies (late 70's and beyond) voted against

Can't see it impacting TBH. Even Corbyn has told his Labour MPs to vote to trigger article 50. Anyone that decides not to will be committing political suicide

Mind numbing bollox, on the ballot paper the choice was remain or leave, hard Brexit/soft Brexit was not an option. We're out and the sooner the better.

With so much news and fake news, truth, optimism or plain lies and can't work this out.

They can discuss for weeks on all sort of stuff, but when we sign article 50 it doesn't come with caveats or clauses, just a place for the highest politician in the land to sign the notification of us wishing to leave the European Union.

I struggle to vote for the tories, but go on Owen Smith vote against A50 so i can never vote for you again with a clear conscience