Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:49 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:50 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:53 am
nubbsy wrote:Where is this list from wez?
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:02 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:02 am
wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:Where is this list from wez?
It's doing the rounds on the Web disgusting if true and I'm 99% it is true I don't understand why we give to some of the countries on this list when we are needing it in this country makes my blood boil
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:05 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Over the last couple of years I have been approach like many regarding installing solar panels and this week some refrigeration unit that will cut down on my gas bills. Both ideas are to cut down on the carbon foot print.
Why oh why does not the Governments just pay for this. The retail cost would be a fraction of what we give overseas.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:10 am
nubbsy wrote:wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:Where is this list from wez?
It's doing the rounds on the Web disgusting if true and I'm 99% it is true I don't understand why we give to some of the countries on this list when we are needing it in this country makes my blood boil
I agree. I got no prob giving aid to major natural disasters and helping out, but these figures are ridiculous. And as you say, our elderly are left to rot in this country. We're led to believe if you work hard and pay your taxes you'll be looked after but the truth is if you don't save alot of money or if life deals you a bad hand late on then your fucked.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:17 am
wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:Where is this list from wez?
It's doing the rounds on the Web disgusting if true and I'm 99% it is true I don't understand why we give to some of the countries on this list when we are needing it in this country makes my blood boil
I agree. I got no prob giving aid to major natural disasters and helping out, but these figures are ridiculous. And as you say, our elderly are left to rot in this country. We're led to believe if you work hard and pay your taxes you'll be looked after but the truth is if you don't save alot of money or if life deals you a bad hand late on then your fucked.
Agree genuine natural disasterstone fair enough but not giving money for the sake of it we need to look after our own citizens first
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:42 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:52 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:05 am
eddiep wrote:While people sleep rough in the streets and low paid working families survive on food bank handouts
The U.K. Sells guns to mad men and funds "aid" dangerous countries for political favours.
Look after your people you greedy bastards.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:09 am
murphy wrote:It hit the news recently that our government give over 5 million to fund an Ethiopian female pop group![]()
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:11 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:15 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:17 am
griff105 wrote:Only £672.40 to Benin?
What was that for!
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:22 am
KBK-13 wrote:griff105 wrote:Only £672.40 to Benin?
What was that for!
Their cut for Rudy Gestede
Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:30 am
Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:02 pm
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:28 pm
nubbsy wrote:I'm guna call bullshit on the document. It doesn't look official and it doesn't make sense. Also, "doing the rounds" on the Internet is not a realiable source.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:33 pm
wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:I'm guna call bullshit on the document. It doesn't look official and it doesn't make sense. Also, "doing the rounds" on the Internet is not a realiable source.
So amounts on the internet are never right coz they are not official government documents?
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:35 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:We do have to help developing countries but whether giving them money without scrutiny of what it's spent on is not the right way to do it.
Also the great unreported part of Britain's oversea aid is those from the UK who benefit from us giving away such vast sums. A number of Tory MP's have family, friends or direct contacts with companies who make £millions from this oversea aid either by providing goods or services. It's no wonder they are very keen to keep it
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:36 pm
nubbsy wrote:wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:Where is this list from wez?
It's doing the rounds on the Web disgusting if true and I'm 99% it is true I don't understand why we give to some of the countries on this list when we are needing it in this country makes my blood boil
I agree. I got no prob giving aid to major natural disasters and helping out, but these figures are ridiculous. And as you say, our elderly are left to rot in this country. We're led to believe if you work hard and pay your taxes you'll be looked after but the truth is if you don't save alot of money or if life deals you a bad hand late on then your fucked.
Agree genuine natural disasterstone fair enough but not giving money for the sake of it we need to look after our own citizens first
At a glance tho wez it looks like bullshit to me. 660m to China? 118m to North Korea!? It doesn't look like an official document. People with anti government agendas knock these things up all the time.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:44 pm
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:50 pm
RV Casual wrote:SOME of the these 'pensioners' and 'people using food banks' will no doubt only have themselves to blame mind, if not now certainly in the future.
The way some people live their lives is beyond, there is going to be a mass of people from my generation who when they get to old age are going to have f**k all to show for themselves and will no doubt be wanting handouts from the government etc etc and pointing out things like this.
Everybody knows the score in this country, you get out what you put in, if you can't be bothered to work, or piss all your money up against the wall or squander it on shit don't moan when you reach old age and can't afford to put the fire on.
I don't see why we should bail out people like that anymore than we should someone from a poor country, some people in this country maybe suffering but all in all most people who claim to be struggling are living a life of luxury in reality.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:52 pm
Lanky Frankie wrote:wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:I'm guna call bullshit on the document. It doesn't look official and it doesn't make sense. Also, "doing the rounds" on the Internet is not a realiable source.
So amounts on the internet are never right coz they are not official government documents?
Do the math you fool. All that adds up to billions.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:53 pm
Lanky Frankie wrote:wez1927 wrote:nubbsy wrote:I'm guna call bullshit on the document. It doesn't look official and it doesn't make sense. Also, "doing the rounds" on the Internet is not a realiable source.
So amounts on the internet are never right coz they are not official government documents?
Do the math you fool. All that adds up to billions.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:05 pm
Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:15 pm
RV Casual wrote:SOME of the these 'pensioners' and 'people using food banks' will no doubt only have themselves to blame mind, if not now certainly in the future.
The way some people live their lives is beyond, there is going to be a mass of people from my generation who when they get to old age are going to have f**k all to show for themselves and will no doubt be wanting handouts from the government etc etc and pointing out things like this.
Everybody knows the score in this country, you get out what you put in, if you can't be bothered to work, or piss all your money up against the wall or squander it on shit don't moan when you reach old age and can't afford to put the fire on.
I don't see why we should bail out people like that anymore than we should someone from a poor country, some people in this country maybe suffering but all in all most people who claim to be struggling are living a life of luxury in reality.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:29 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:RV Casual wrote:SOME of the these 'pensioners' and 'people using food banks' will no doubt only have themselves to blame mind, if not now certainly in the future.
The way some people live their lives is beyond, there is going to be a mass of people from my generation who when they get to old age are going to have f**k all to show for themselves and will no doubt be wanting handouts from the government etc etc and pointing out things like this.
Everybody knows the score in this country, you get out what you put in, if you can't be bothered to work, or piss all your money up against the wall or squander it on shit don't moan when you reach old age and can't afford to put the fire on.
I don't see why we should bail out people like that anymore than we should someone from a poor country, some people in this country maybe suffering but all in all most people who claim to be struggling are living a life of luxury in reality.
Just because you are poor in old age that doesn't mean you haven't workedThe vast majority of those who are now in poverty in old age are retired people which didn't have a generous pension scheme and were on low wages. Those who haven't worked due to illness and disability have generally died because of their conditions and the drunken work shy die of liver problems so the numbers of 'scroungers' to use the descriptive word is very small in number.
This is a nasty little attitude which has sprung up over the past few years thanks to Government encouragement. Why should those in work pay the burden of the old? I'm amazed that it never dawns on those who think this way that why should have those same people have paid taxes for their education when they were at school?
We live in a welfare state and paying in is part of that and you take out when you retire, become ill or unemployed. Contrary to urban myth life on benefits is not some kind of wonderland and if you have a well paid job paying tax then you should be glad you have that opportunity rather than pointing fingers at those who are less fortunate than yourself.
Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:31 pm
AfanBluebird wrote:This isn't also doing the rounds on social media, but I be there you will disannounce it as "fake news"?