Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:07 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:25 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:30 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:38 pm
RV Casual wrote:I would be amazed. I would put our chances of signing him at 0.1%.
Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:48 pm
NIBluebird wrote:RV Casual wrote:I would be amazed. I would put our chances of signing him at 0.1%.
So we`ve a chance then
Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:49 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:06 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:18 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:29 pm
Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:36 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:07 pm
llan bluebird wrote:he has played 39 games since he left us. (whitts 106)
I hope we don't go anywhere near him.
We need to find these players again, not buy ready made
Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:05 pm
Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:21 pm
Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:30 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:32 pm
davids wrote:Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Just my opinion of course but for me a fully fit Jordon Mutch would get in our team ahead of Whitts or Ralls every game.
Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:36 pm
richards13 wrote:Probably our best player in the Premiership - and probably gave us our best moment at Fulham.
When he is good he is brilliant, when he's bad it's probably because he is not fit. From memory, he often wasn't.
Probably used the word probably too much there...
Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:12 am
davids wrote:Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Just my opinion of course but for me a fully fit Jordon Mutch would get in our team ahead of Whitts or Ralls every game.
Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:15 pm
Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:43 pm
Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:16 pm
KWest wrote:davids wrote:Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Just my opinion of course but for me a fully fit Jordon Mutch would get in our team ahead of Whitts or Ralls every game.
You've clearly not seen a lot of him recently then. The guy makes ZERO impact. I don't even know if he's scored a goal since he moved to Palace?
End of the day, whilst is started our PL season strong and gave us flashes of magic throughout, everyone seems to have forgotten just how often he went missing in games. Don't get me wrong, he scored some great goals for us that year, but let's not pretend he was a superb all rounder for us, 'cos he wasn't.
Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:33 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:I don't know why everyone thinks Mutch is out of range, he hardly plays and there are better in his position at Palace - I don't think he's developed since he moved. I think he'd be obtainable however I think it's a bad idea to take back a player you once had especially when he hasn't progressed
Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:53 pm
RV Casual wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:I don't know why everyone thinks Mutch is out of range, he hardly plays and there are better in his position at Palace - I don't think he's developed since he moved. I think he'd be obtainable however I think it's a bad idea to take back a player you once had especially when he hasn't progressed
The reason people think he is out of range mate is simple.
If he was made available for transfer or loan it is highly unlikely we would be able to compete with the types of Clubs that would be in for him, Villa and Celtic being two. I would also be surprised if he would even entertain coming back here.
We are Championship Relegation contending cannon fodder at the moment with no signs to say we are likely to be competing with the best teams in the division any time soon.
Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:34 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:RV Casual wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:I don't know why everyone thinks Mutch is out of range, he hardly plays and there are better in his position at Palace - I don't think he's developed since he moved. I think he'd be obtainable however I think it's a bad idea to take back a player you once had especially when he hasn't progressed
The reason people think he is out of range mate is simple.
If he was made available for transfer or loan it is highly unlikely we would be able to compete with the types of Clubs that would be in for him, Villa and Celtic being two. I would also be surprised if he would even entertain coming back here.
We are Championship Relegation contending cannon fodder at the moment with no signs to say we are likely to be competing with the best teams in the division any time soon.
Seems a little defeatist -
Why would Celtic or Villa or that calibre of team be Certs to sign him?
If they have better or can't guarantee him football why would you go? He's 24 he needs to start games...
Even if he didn't want to come here there are 6 points between us and 12th hardly cannon fodder really.
As the say Rome wasn't built in a day and a new manager needs time and investment to create a vision that will attract players. Coupled with the fact that our manager actually has a fair bit of a good reputation anyway that in itself could be enough to sign a player you deem "unobtainable" as appose to Trolls who had no clout about him.
Football isn't as black and white as suggestions make it, there are all sorts of colours and shades that can pop up from anywhere
Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:01 pm
RV Casual wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:RV Casual wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:I don't know why everyone thinks Mutch is out of range, he hardly plays and there are better in his position at Palace - I don't think he's developed since he moved. I think he'd be obtainable however I think it's a bad idea to take back a player you once had especially when he hasn't progressed
The reason people think he is out of range mate is simple.
If he was made available for transfer or loan it is highly unlikely we would be able to compete with the types of Clubs that would be in for him, Villa and Celtic being two. I would also be surprised if he would even entertain coming back here.
We are Championship Relegation contending cannon fodder at the moment with no signs to say we are likely to be competing with the best teams in the division any time soon.
Seems a little defeatist -
Why would Celtic or Villa or that calibre of team be Certs to sign him?
If they have better or can't guarantee him football why would you go? He's 24 he needs to start games...
Even if he didn't want to come here there are 6 points between us and 12th hardly cannon fodder really.
As the say Rome wasn't built in a day and a new manager needs time and investment to create a vision that will attract players. Coupled with the fact that our manager actually has a fair bit of a good reputation anyway that in itself could be enough to sign a player you deem "unobtainable" as appose to Trolls who had no clout about him.
Football isn't as black and white as suggestions make it, there are all sorts of colours and shades that can pop up from anywhere
Not defeatist - pure realism.
You realize how Football works right? You won't find many players looking to take a massive drop in wages and drop down a division to play for a Relegation threatened side.
He's on £30k a week and got 2 and a half years to run on his contract, we cannot compete with that, you understand that right? Palace are also looking for £2.5 Million for him, we don't spend money like that on players anymore, you get that aswell yeah?
Aston Villa and Celtic are just two of the Clubs linked with him, if you think we can compete with either of them at this very moment in time you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
He's out of our League fella, that's just the way it is at the moment I'm afraid.
Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:26 pm
Blue_Barber wrote:RV Casual wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:RV Casual wrote:Blue_Barber wrote:I don't know why everyone thinks Mutch is out of range, he hardly plays and there are better in his position at Palace - I don't think he's developed since he moved. I think he'd be obtainable however I think it's a bad idea to take back a player you once had especially when he hasn't progressed
The reason people think he is out of range mate is simple.
If he was made available for transfer or loan it is highly unlikely we would be able to compete with the types of Clubs that would be in for him, Villa and Celtic being two. I would also be surprised if he would even entertain coming back here.
We are Championship Relegation contending cannon fodder at the moment with no signs to say we are likely to be competing with the best teams in the division any time soon.
Seems a little defeatist -
Why would Celtic or Villa or that calibre of team be Certs to sign him?
If they have better or can't guarantee him football why would you go? He's 24 he needs to start games...
Even if he didn't want to come here there are 6 points between us and 12th hardly cannon fodder really.
As the say Rome wasn't built in a day and a new manager needs time and investment to create a vision that will attract players. Coupled with the fact that our manager actually has a fair bit of a good reputation anyway that in itself could be enough to sign a player you deem "unobtainable" as appose to Trolls who had no clout about him.
Football isn't as black and white as suggestions make it, there are all sorts of colours and shades that can pop up from anywhere
Not defeatist - pure realism.
You realize how Football works right? You won't find many players looking to take a massive drop in wages and drop down a division to play for a Relegation threatened side.
He's on £30k a week and got 2 and a half years to run on his contract, we cannot compete with that, you understand that right? Palace are also looking for £2.5 Million for him, we don't spend money like that on players anymore, you get that aswell yeah?
Aston Villa and Celtic are just two of the Clubs linked with him, if you think we can compete with either of them at this very moment in time you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
He's out of our League fella, that's just the way it is at the moment I'm afraid.
I just find it a little intriguing how well you think you know the ins and outs of his financial package and sale value -
Where's your proof he's on that money?
Who has told you at CPFC that they want £2.5million?
I completely understand football I also understand media infatuation of over egging to get coverage.
I also know that the majority of bench warming players from clubs 10 down in the EPL would have very few in earning 30k a week at a club. People also seem to think a wage is £xxk per week and that's it - well that's purely not the case you have players who's wage is made up on all sorts of add ons and what ifs - fact
Now realistically "mate/fella" if a club can pay £20k as quoted by media for a player of the stature of Manga then I'm sure that a player like Mutch who is no better a player would also be obtainable...
Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:52 am
davids wrote:Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Just my opinion of course but for me a fully fit Jordon Mutch would get in our team ahead of Whitts or Ralls every game.
Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:41 am
polo wrote:davids wrote:Dahboy wrote:Would he walk straight in this team I don't think so.
Just my opinion of course but for me a fully fit Jordon Mutch would get in our team ahead of Whitts or Ralls every game.
If Warnock can find him of course. English Footballs Hide & Seek Champion 4 years running.