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" BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:25 pm

" BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK "


Friday 13th Jan 2017

key points


Neil Warnock on signing a top striker

“I don’t think we’ll be able to spend money on a top class striker at the moment, we’ll go with what we’ve got, perhaps we can get a loan one.
“It’s a matter of talking to Vincent and encourage him to have another go.”







Vincent Tan and Warnock will meet on Sunday to discuss transfers.


Manga has attracted interest from the MLS but Warnock wants to keep him.


Warnock unsure of whether Cardiff will improve on their failed bid for Jonny Hayes.


He says the Bluebirds saved ‘seven figures’ by releasing Immers.


Peter Whittingham contract talks are ongoing.

Warnock doesn’t think Cardiff can splash out on a ‘top class striker’ right now.



" NEIL Warnock on signing a top striker "

“I don’t think we’ll be able to spend money on a top class striker at the moment, we’ll go with what we’ve got, perhaps we can get a loan one.
“It’s a matter of talking to Vincent and encourage him to have another go.”
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Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:28 pm

Neil Warnock on Andy Dibble

“He’s Cardiff through and through.
“Even at Rotherham he wouldn’t shut up about Cardiff!
“His family are here and it’s lovely to have people who want to be at the club, he’s a good coach, he brought the best out of Lee Camp last year who saved us points and it’s good to replace Margetson with someone you trust.”
Neil Warnock

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:32 pm

" INJURY NEWS FOR TOMORROW "


Neil Warnock

“Most have cleared up. A couple have not trained, it’s not the right preparation, but we’ll know more today.
“Everybody wants to play, Whitts did some light training, Peltier had a bit of an ankle problem in the game before Fulham, but they’re doing little bits.
“They’re all in contention.”

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:34 pm

Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:37 pm

Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:40 pm

NEIL WARNOCK

ON TOMORROW GAME

“It’s a lovely ground now that generates a lovely atmosphere. I’ve had some derbies over my career and they’re always a bit special, there’s no point saying it’s another game because it’s not, it’s a derby.
“We know what’s at stake and on top of that we’re on the same points.
“They’ve got three decent signings in which we’ve not been able to do.”
Neil Warnock

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:43 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

What???,,the club have just said they saved a seven figure sum on him lol

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:45 pm

That Andy Dibble part is class, fair play, Cardiff through n through and couldn't stop talking about us last season.

Welcome home Andy and all the best my friend :bluescarf:

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:48 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.





Jack, I fully agree but the fact is that Warnock is a completely different manager to what we've had of late and he is drawing lines. If he can persuade Vincent Tan to back him, then we can only look forward and not back :thumbup:

My personal opinion is that all we need to do is 'get safe' for this season and start prepping for next season, when (hopefully) the manager will (a) know who he wants to keep/buy, and (b) have the backing of the owner for a real assault on the Championship :ayatollah:

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:51 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.


What Nubbsy Said. Only at Cardiff could people possibly think that signing a player for a fee, paying him 6 months wages to play 13 games and then letting him go for free is good business :? :lol:

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:59 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:59 pm

wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:02 pm

Why ain't this good business????
Yes we paid a transfer fee,but can anyone tell me what that fee was?,certainly not the 2m people have been saying,from what's been said Immers more or less left without reciecing much of a pay out,clearly because his agent had already done a deal with the club he's joined,don't forget Warnock didn't sign him and clearly didn't rate him,so firstly the club save on his wages reportedly £15,000 a week,so helping the club bring in someone this transfer window

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:04 pm

RV Casual wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

A Cardiff city academy coach told me ,there was no payoff immers tore up the contract so he could move on to s8gn for an European club and what warnock has said today practicality proves that, a massive saving for a player not in warnocks

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:16 pm

wez1927 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

A Cardiff city academy coach told me ,there was no payoff immers tore up the contract so he could move on to s8gn for an European club and what warnock has said today practicality proves that, a massive saving for a player not in warnocks




That would make perfect sense under the circumstances, Wez :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:24 pm

Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

A Cardiff city academy coach told me ,there was no payoff immers tore up the contract so he could move on to s8gn for an European club and what warnock has said today practicality proves that, a massive saving for a player not in warnocks




That would make perfect sense under the circumstances, Wez :thumbup: :ayatollah:


Problem with this message board too many people jump down your throats when you post something positive about the club saving money without know ing the full facts

Definite good business as posted earlier :ayatollah:

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:32 pm

Dobbin wrote:
Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

A Cardiff city academy coach told me ,there was no payoff immers tore up the contract so he could move on to s8gn for an European club and what warnock has said today practicality proves that, a massive saving for a player not in warnocks




That would make perfect sense under the circumstances, Wez :thumbup: :ayatollah:


Problem with this message board too many people jump down your throats when you post something positive about the club saving money without know ing the full facts

Definite good business as posted earlier :ayatollah:



Your one of the better posters on here mate but I couldn't disagree with you more on this

Releasing players from their contract's is a dangerous game to be playing and is poor business from the offset however you try to disguise it with 'saved on the wages etc'. It also send's out a terrible message.

As an example, even if Lex cost us say £500,000 in fee's ie loan and to sign permanently and was on 15k a week that is not to shy of £1,000,000 down the drain.

Warnock should be able to work with the players we have got and get the best out of them. We are not talking about someone who is shit or deadwood.

If he wasn't wanted he should have been transfer listed, Brugge should have paid us a fee or Immers should have bought himself out of his contract himself by paying us if he is the one who wanted to go.

You cannot namby-pamby to Football players left right and center. Any player in that Squad now must be thinking, f**k it, if things don't work out ill just have my contact terminated and sign somewhere else, same for any players we are looking to buy.

We have done and are doing it far to often, its not good business in the slightest, the saving on wages thing is a shit attempt to gloss over what is another monumental f**k up.

its like buying a car for £30k and then giving it to a scrap yard 6 months later for nothing and justifying it to yourself by telling yourself think of the money you saved on petrol. It wouldn't and shouldn't ever happen.

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:40 pm

Forever Blue wrote:" BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK "


Friday 13th Jan 2017

key points


Neil Warnock on signing a top striker

“I don’t think we’ll be able to spend money on a top class striker at the moment, we’ll go with what we’ve got, perhaps we can get a loan one.
“It’s a matter of talking to Vincent and encourage him to have another go.”







Vincent Tan and Warnock will meet on Sunday to discuss transfers.


Manga has attracted interest from the MLS but Warnock wants to keep him.


Warnock unsure of whether Cardiff will improve on their failed bid for Jonny Hayes.


He says the Bluebirds saved ‘seven figures’ by releasing Immers.


Peter Whittingham contract talks are ongoing.

Warnock doesn’t think Cardiff can splash out on a ‘top class striker’ right now.



" NEIL Warnock on signing a top striker "

“I don’t think we’ll be able to spend money on a top class striker at the moment, we’ll go with what we’ve got, perhaps we can get a loan one.
“It’s a matter of talking to Vincent and encourage him to have another go.”

All sounds a bit ominous if truth be told

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:44 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Neil Warnock on Andy Dibble

“He’s Cardiff through and through.
“Even at Rotherham he wouldn’t shut up about Cardiff!
“His family are here and it’s lovely to have people who want to be at the club, he’s a good coach, he brought the best out of Lee Camp last year who saved us points and it’s good to replace Margetson with someone you trust.”
Neil Warnock


He has saved the best of his career till last! :thumbright: I think we are so lucky to have him! :notworthy: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:20 pm

Reading between the lines, Warnock appears to be confirming what many of us have suspected for a long time now. There is going to be very little money available for the purchase of new players, and Warnock is going to have to be doing a bit of wheeling and dealing to improve his squad. I think we will be looking at bargain basement buys and free transfers in the main.
I can't see vast sums of money being spent in the Summer either. Everyone is hoping that over the next few years Tan will be converting our current debt to equity. I would'nt of thought that it would make much sense for him to start running up more debt when he already has his hands full clearing a big debt that already exists. I believe that this club will operating on a shoestring budget for the forseeable future.

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:31 pm

Bluebirds youngster leaves the club

Cardiff City under-23s man Tom James has left the club to join Yeovil Town on a permanent deal.
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Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:47 pm

RV Casual wrote:
Dobbin wrote:
Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

A Cardiff city academy coach told me ,there was no payoff immers tore up the contract so he could move on to s8gn for an European club and what warnock has said today practicality proves that, a massive saving for a player not in warnocks




That would make perfect sense under the circumstances, Wez :thumbup: :ayatollah:


Problem with this message board too many people jump down your throats when you post something positive about the club saving money without know ing the full facts

Definite good business as posted earlier :ayatollah:



Your one of the better posters on here mate but I couldn't disagree with you more on this

Releasing players from their contract's is a dangerous game to be playing and is poor business from the offset however you try to disguise it with 'saved on the wages etc'. It also send's out a terrible message.

As an example, even if Lex cost us say £500,000 in fee's ie loan and to sign permanently and was on 15k a week that is not to shy of £1,000,000 down the drain.

Warnock should be able to work with the players we have got and get the best out of them. We are not talking about someone who is shit or deadwood.

If he wasn't wanted he should have been transfer listed, Brugge should have paid us a fee or Immers should have bought himself out of his contract himself by paying us if he is the one who wanted to go.

You cannot namby-pamby to Football players left right and center. Any player in that Squad now must be thinking, f**k it, if things don't work out ill just have my contact terminated and sign somewhere else, same for any players we are looking to buy.

We have done and are doing it far to often, its not good business in the slightest, the saving on wages thing is a shit attempt to gloss over what is another monumental f**k up.

its like buying a car for £30k and then giving it to a scrap yard 6 months later for nothing and justifying it to yourself by telling yourself think of the money you saved on petrol. It wouldn't and shouldn't ever happen.


Thanks - I don't post as much as I would like but when I do try to be as constructive as I can.

I actually agree with what you say. The problem is historical about how we have handled previous players and trying to get them off the books. We have gone about it totally the wrong way and that's why it is not good business sense.

If you isolated this instance with Immers I believe it to be a good deal. Yes we have still lost money but clearly he did not want to be here. Some of the others have been wrong side of ridiculous !!

Where I am disappointed is that I think Warnock should be working more with the squad and what we have and trying to improve them so that we don't need to offload at losses. When you look at two managers that were appointed around the same time as him to struggling championship clubs and they have win rates of over 50 and 60% - it shows what can be done !

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:50 pm

Dobbin wrote:
Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

A Cardiff city academy coach told me ,there was no payoff immers tore up the contract so he could move on to s8gn for an European club and what warnock has said today practicality proves that, a massive saving for a player not in warnocks




That would make perfect sense under the circumstances, Wez :thumbup: :ayatollah:


Problem with this message board too many people jump down your throats when you post something positive about the club saving money without know ing the full facts

Definite good business as posted earlier :ayatollah:



Wasn't trying to jump down your throat mate. I was just stating that buying players and giving them away 6 months later is not good business. We've saved ourselves from loosing more money than we already have that's all. I'm all for positivity but this is just the truth I'm afraid.

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:54 pm

RV Casual wrote:
Dobbin wrote:
Sven wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Dobbin wrote:Turns out to be a good bit of business by seeing Immers go !

Saving the club a seven figure sum for a player Warnock did not fancy. Can see more of these types of outs with one or two more quality players in

Keep wheeling and dealing Warnock :ayatollah:



It may seem like 'good business' now. But we just wasted a transfer fee, half a years wages and no doubt a pay off on him. So no, looking at the bigger picture it is in no way good business.

There was no payoff also I'm sure there wasn't a large transfer fee


How do you know this?

A Cardiff city academy coach told me ,there was no payoff immers tore up the contract so he could move on to s8gn for an European club and what warnock has said today practicality proves that, a massive saving for a player not in warnocks




That would make perfect sense under the circumstances, Wez :thumbup: :ayatollah:


Problem with this message board too many people jump down your throats when you post something positive about the club saving money without know ing the full facts

Definite good business as posted earlier :ayatollah:



Your one of the better posters on here mate but I couldn't disagree with you more on this

Releasing players from their contract's is a dangerous game to be playing and is poor business from the offset however you try to disguise it with 'saved on the wages etc'. It also send's out a terrible message.

As an example, even if Lex cost us say £500,000 in fee's ie loan and to sign permanently and was on 15k a week that is not to shy of £1,000,000 down the drain.

Warnock should be able to work with the players we have got and get the best out of them. We are not talking about someone who is shit or deadwood.

If he wasn't wanted he should have been transfer listed, Brugge should have paid us a fee or Immers should have bought himself out of his contract himself by paying us if he is the one who wanted to go.

You cannot namby-pamby to Football players left right and center. Any player in that Squad now must be thinking, f**k it, if things don't work out ill just have my contact terminated and sign somewhere else, same for any players we are looking to buy.

We have done and are doing it far to often, its not good business in the slightest, the saving on wages thing is a shit attempt to gloss over what is another monumental f**k up.

its like buying a car for £30k and then giving it to a scrap yard 6 months later for nothing and justifying it to yourself by telling yourself think of the money you saved on petrol. It wouldn't and shouldn't ever happen.



Good post

Re: " BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK TODAY "

Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:45 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:" BREAKING NEWS NEIL WARNOCK "


Friday 13th Jan 2017

key points


Neil Warnock on signing a top striker

“I don’t think we’ll be able to spend money on a top class striker at the moment, we’ll go with what we’ve got, perhaps we can get a loan one.
“It’s a matter of talking to Vincent and encourage him to have another go.”







Vincent Tan and Warnock will meet on Sunday to discuss transfers.


Manga has attracted interest from the MLS but Warnock wants to keep him.


Warnock unsure of whether Cardiff will improve on their failed bid for Jonny Hayes.


He says the Bluebirds saved ‘seven figures’ by releasing Immers.


Peter Whittingham contract talks are ongoing.

Warnock doesn’t think Cardiff can splash out on a ‘top class striker’ right now.



" NEIL Warnock on signing a top striker "

“I don’t think we’ll be able to spend money on a top class striker at the moment, we’ll go with what we’ve got, perhaps we can get a loan one.
“It’s a matter of talking to Vincent and encourage him to have another go.”

All sounds a bit ominous if truth be told





Not really. People need to write off this season so far as any thoughts of Play-offs or promotion are concerned. Surely, our only aim is to climb to a place of safety and then (hopefully) start planning ahead for next season? That might include trying out different formations and/or testing squad players who may or may not have a first team future

Personally, Id be happy with that. We have a good manager in place and he will take us forward but for now 'survival' is the key word and should just about be acceptable after the turmoil of recent seasons. Next season however, it should not be unreasonable to expect a little more... :ayatollah: