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' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:13 pm

Joe Bennett tweeted
Not one of my better performances yesterday. But will learn from it and move on and make sure we get 3 points at the weekend :thumbright:

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:31 pm

How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


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Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:35 pm

castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


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Harsh

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:05 pm

To be fair to him he had no cover in front of him for most of the game.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:05 pm

Think he has had a good season apart from 1 or 2games
So so much better than John I am afraid to say, think Declan needs to go to a div 1 or 2club to Kearney how to defend.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:38 pm

castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


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I suppose this post shows the beauty of Football and how vastly opinions can differ.

He had a poor game yesterday but in general I couldn't disagree with it more.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:25 pm

RV Casual wrote:
castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


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I suppose this post shows the beauty of Football and how vastly opinions can differ.

He had a poor game yesterday but in general I couldn't disagree with it more.


It is all about opinions I accept that but the reason I think he was so bad yesterday was that we set up 3-4-2-1 with Bennett and Richards playing as wingbacks. Until Noone arrived any width in the team needed to come from the two wingbacks but neither showed any appetite to bomb up and down the wings.

With Pilkington and Harris playing narrow just behind Lambert there was little opportunity for either of them to cover for the wingbacks so they were in for a hard day. But we needed them bombing up and down their respective wing and Bennett in particular showed little appetite to do so. In my opinion Declan John is the better option when we set up as we did yesterday, in a strict 4-4-2 well that's different but yesterday we set up 3-4-2-1.

If Bennett had been bombing up his wing that Ryan Fredericks, who was playing as wingback for Fulham, would have had to have covered the run. However Bennett sat so deep, offered little or no width and invited Fredericks onto him and the rest is history.

In fairness Bennett wasn't the worst City player on the pitch Huws, Lambert and Halford had, in my opinion, worse games but he failed to do his job yesterday and I think Declan John is a far better option in the wingback role.

Just my opinion.


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Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:23 pm

castleblue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


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I suppose this post shows the beauty of Football and how vastly opinions can differ.

He had a poor game yesterday but in general I couldn't disagree with it more.


It is all about opinions I accept that but the reason I think he was so bad yesterday was that we set up 3-4-2-1 with Bennett and Richards playing as wingbacks. Until Noone arrived any width in the team needed to come from the two wingbacks but neither showed any appetite to bomb up and down the wings.

With Pilkington and Harris playing narrow just behind Lambert there was little opportunity for either of them to cover for the wingbacks so they were in for a hard day. But we needed them bombing up and down their respective wing and Bennett in particular showed little appetite to do so. In my opinion Declan John is the better option when we set up as we did yesterday, in a strict 4-4-2 well that's different but yesterday we set up 3-4-2-1.

If Bennett had been bombing up his wing that Ryan Fredericks, who was playing as wingback for Fulham, would have had to have covered the run. However Bennett sat so deep, offered little or no width and invited Fredericks onto him and the rest is history.

In fairness Bennett wasn't the worst City player on the pitch Huws, Lambert and Halford had, in my opinion, worse games but he failed to do his job yesterday and I think Declan John is a far better option in the wingback role.

Just my opinion.


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You just summed it up yourself. He can't 'bomb down the wing' when he's got absolutely no cover and he's completely done for pace by Fredricks. Warnocks tactics were a major downfall for us yesterday. I personally think he's been great since coming into the side and I've enjoyed watching him play.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:09 pm

nubbsy wrote:
castleblue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


I suppose this post shows the beauty of Football and how vastly opinions can differ.

He had a poor game yesterday but in general I couldn't disagree with it more.


It is all about opinions I accept that but the reason I think he was so bad yesterday was that we set up 3-4-2-1 with Bennett and Richards playing as wingbacks. Until Noone arrived any width in the team needed to come from the two wingbacks but neither showed any appetite to bomb up and down the wings.

With Pilkington and Harris playing narrow just behind Lambert there was little opportunity for either of them to cover for the wingbacks so they were in for a hard day. But we needed them bombing up and down their respective wing and Bennett in particular showed little appetite to do so. In my opinion Declan John is the better option when we set up as we did yesterday, in a strict 4-4-2 well that's different but yesterday we set up 3-4-2-1.

If Bennett had been bombing up his wing that Ryan Fredericks, who was playing as wingback for Fulham, would have had to have covered the run. However Bennett sat so deep, offered little or no width and invited Fredericks onto him and the rest is history.

In fairness Bennett wasn't the worst City player on the pitch Huws, Lambert and Halford had, in my opinion, worse games but he failed to do his job yesterday and I think Declan John is a far better option in the wingback role.

Just my opinion.


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You just summed it up yourself. He can't 'bomb down the wing' when he's got absolutely no cover and he's completely done for pace by Fredricks. Warnocks tactics were a major downfall for us yesterday. I personally think he's been great since coming into the side and I've enjoyed watching him play.


Of course he had cover it was behind him, Sol Bamba, who played on the left of the 3 CB as the game started. However as Bennett showed little appetite to run beyond Fredericks. As a result Fredericks parked himself 30-40 yards from the Cardiff goal line and when he got the ball he attacked Bennett without hesitation and Bennett backed off everytime.

Yesterday our best defensive player had his back but are we really saying he needed another player between him and Fredericks. If people really think that then that's my point proved. Richards have no cover from Pilkington but Morrison had his back and for a player who hadn't played for months he did OK.

Look it all about opinions and it would be a strange world if we all agreed all of the time.


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Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:58 pm

I agree that Bennet is no better than Declan John but it's what Warnock thinks so John should go out on loan and prove him wrong.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:12 pm

Fair play to the lad for admitting he wasn't at his best, he didn't get any support from his team mates and I think he is a better option than Declan John. 3 managers don't rate him so there must be something in it

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:35 pm

Seem to recall that Malone was regularly slagged off on these boards.....now he's gone he's praised! Personally I think he's better than Bennett and John, but all three are prone defensively.
We certainly came off worst in the Richards swap.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:37 pm

bluemun wrote:Seem to recall that Malone was regularly slagged off on these boards.....now he's gone he's praised! Personally I think he's better than Bennett and John, but all three are prone defensively.
We certainly came off worst in the Richards swap.


Agree totally

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:40 pm

castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


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Bennett has done well since coming in I believe. He's had 2 bad games and approx 8 good ones so weighed up he's not that bad. At least he looks like he wants to be here. At least more than jazz does

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:13 pm

bluemun wrote:Seem to recall that Malone was regularly slagged off on these boards.....now he's gone he's praised! Personally I think he's better than Bennett and John, but all three are prone defensively.
We certainly came off worst in the Richards swap.


Malone ducks tackles and that will always cost a team eventually. I agree Richards hasn't excelled so far but I think he is a better option at right back as Peltier is so limited going forward.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:22 pm

castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


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Couldnt disagree with this more. With the exception of yesterday where no one except Bamba looked interested Bennett has had a good season and i like the fact he has owned up and apologised.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:35 pm

I think they were under orders not to win.I think if you give a parks team that much space you are gonna get beat. :lol:

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:41 pm

I like Bennett but forget yesterday he's got caught out at the back on many occasions not because he's been exposed but because he's not gone with the runner. Simple as that. :thumbup:

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:28 pm

Bennett is Pele compared to Declan John. I'm sorry but John has had plenty of opportunities and has never impressed me. He's league one at best.

Bennett is certainly decent going forward, and looks comfortable on the ball, but he lets in far too many crosses and isn't aggressive enough. He's still young so will hopefully improve.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:05 pm

Fair play for coming out and saying that, I've got a lot of time for that. He was given the run around yesterday but apart from than I've been impressed by him. He's easily our best option at left back, defensively normally solid and comfortable on the ball going forward.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:55 pm

castleblue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
castleblue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


I suppose this post shows the beauty of Football and how vastly opinions can differ.

He had a poor game yesterday but in general I couldn't disagree with it more.


It is all about opinions I accept that but the reason I think he was so bad yesterday was that we set up 3-4-2-1 with Bennett and Richards playing as wingbacks. Until Noone arrived any width in the team needed to come from the two wingbacks but neither showed any appetite to bomb up and down the wings.

With Pilkington and Harris playing narrow just behind Lambert there was little opportunity for either of them to cover for the wingbacks so they were in for a hard day. But we needed them bombing up and down their respective wing and Bennett in particular showed little appetite to do so. In my opinion Declan John is the better option when we set up as we did yesterday, in a strict 4-4-2 well that's different but yesterday we set up 3-4-2-1.

If Bennett had been bombing up his wing that Ryan Fredericks, who was playing as wingback for Fulham, would have had to have covered the run. However Bennett sat so deep, offered little or no width and invited Fredericks onto him and the rest is history.

In fairness Bennett wasn't the worst City player on the pitch Huws, Lambert and Halford had, in my opinion, worse games but he failed to do his job yesterday and I think Declan John is a far better option in the wingback role.

Just my opinion.


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You just summed it up yourself. He can't 'bomb down the wing' when he's got absolutely no cover and he's completely done for pace by Fredricks. Warnocks tactics were a major downfall for us yesterday. I personally think he's been great since coming into the side and I've enjoyed watching him play.


Of course he had cover it was behind him, Sol Bamba, who played on the left of the 3 CB as the game started. However as Bennett showed little appetite to run beyond Fredericks. As a result Fredericks parked himself 30-40 yards from the Cardiff goal line and when he got the ball he attacked Bennett without hesitation and Bennett backed off everytime.

Yesterday our best defensive player had his back but are we really saying he needed another player between him and Fredericks. If people really think that then that's my point proved. Richards have no cover from Pilkington but Morrison had his back and for a player who hadn't played for months he did OK.

Look it all about opinions and it would be a strange world if we all agreed all of the time.


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Bamba was behind him yeah, but no winger to link up in defense or attack. Listen I agree he didn't have a great game, but it was a terrible game all around and he's had the balls to come out and say he's learnt from it which is admirable. let's not put too much judgement on him from this.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:37 am

nubbsy wrote:
castleblue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
castleblue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
castleblue wrote:How the f**k this guy gets in the team ahead of Declan John is beyond me. :?

And I hope NW wakes up to the FACT that any set piece where he takes the corner or free kick will be wasted. In the short time that Scott Malone was on the pitch yesterday he showed 10 times the desire, professionalism and quality that Bennett displayed.

A thoroughly spineless performance from Bennett and surely he will get hooked when Jazz Richards gets match sharp.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


I suppose this post shows the beauty of Football and how vastly opinions can differ.

He had a poor game yesterday but in general I couldn't disagree with it more.


It is all about opinions I accept that but the reason I think he was so bad yesterday was that we set up 3-4-2-1 with Bennett and Richards playing as wingbacks. Until Noone arrived any width in the team needed to come from the two wingbacks but neither showed any appetite to bomb up and down the wings.

With Pilkington and Harris playing narrow just behind Lambert there was little opportunity for either of them to cover for the wingbacks so they were in for a hard day. But we needed them bombing up and down their respective wing and Bennett in particular showed little appetite to do so. In my opinion Declan John is the better option when we set up as we did yesterday, in a strict 4-4-2 well that's different but yesterday we set up 3-4-2-1.

If Bennett had been bombing up his wing that Ryan Fredericks, who was playing as wingback for Fulham, would have had to have covered the run. However Bennett sat so deep, offered little or no width and invited Fredericks onto him and the rest is history.

In fairness Bennett wasn't the worst City player on the pitch Huws, Lambert and Halford had, in my opinion, worse games but he failed to do his job yesterday and I think Declan John is a far better option in the wingback role.

Just my opinion.


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You just summed it up yourself. He can't 'bomb down the wing' when he's got absolutely no cover and he's completely done for pace by Fredricks. Warnocks tactics were a major downfall for us yesterday. I personally think he's been great since coming into the side and I've enjoyed watching him play.


Of course he had cover it was behind him, Sol Bamba, who played on the left of the 3 CB as the game started. However as Bennett showed little appetite to run beyond Fredericks. As a result Fredericks parked himself 30-40 yards from the Cardiff goal line and when he got the ball he attacked Bennett without hesitation and Bennett backed off everytime.

Yesterday our best defensive player had his back but are we really saying he needed another player between him and Fredericks. If people really think that then that's my point proved. Richards have no cover from Pilkington but Morrison had his back and for a player who hadn't played for months he did OK.

Look it all about opinions and it would be a strange world if we all agreed all of the time.


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Bamba was behind him yeah, but no winger to link up in defense or attack. Listen I agree he didn't have a great game, but it was a terrible game all around and he's had the balls to come out and say he's learnt from it which is admirable. let's not put too much judgement on him from this.


Agree with this.
It's ridiculous that people are saying get rid of him for one bad game. In general, he's been a decent performer this season.
I put a comment on here during the match saying that he was being isolated and left one on one. When you're up against a winger like that who is lightening fast you have to double up. Watch the top teams, they all do it.
Tactically Warnock got it wrong and should have changes things way sooner but it looked like he didn't give a shit.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Joe Bennett tweeted
Not one of my better performances yesterday. But will learn from it and move on and make sure we get 3 points at the weekend :thumbright:


How did NW or Bamba not notice he was being skinned by Fredericks? It was like the old days hen wingers were nimble footed little men who tore past full backs and crossed.

Modern days there are always 2 if not 3 players on a winger. Kadeem & Noone are rarely one on one.

Bennett should have had cover and I do not know how that did not get sorted not only before the first goal but after it.

Moreover once the ball came into the box on both occasions for their goals, how did the shooters have so much space? Poor defending.

He was also at fault for Brentford's 2nd equaliser - although the static central defenders did not help.

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:05 pm

Yeah the full back had Bennett all day down that side but his pace is frightening and he is one of the quickest players I have seen for a full back in our division.

Credit to Bennett because he has been a key player for us since he got fit and played a couple of months, he had one bad game.. we have players like Ralls who has plenty and still gets in the team.

He took to twitter and openly admitted he had a bad game and took flack off a minority of supporters, respect for that because you see too many players hiding from criticism and never respond about it.

Castleblue giving a call for Jazz Richards in the team? Based on what? He's dreadful at this level and he shouldn't be in this division along with Declan John.

Just waiting on the call for underwhelming league one standard Welsh players in our team to get a run in a team. :banghead: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:10 am

Do half of you even come To games or watch them ? Bennett has one poor game and the Set up didn't suit him and you say he's rubbish . Very laughable, he's beeen solid most the season and hence why he starts! I'm sorry Declan john Is no better than him

Re: ' Latest from Joe Bennett '

Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:10 pm

bluebird12345 wrote:Do half of you even come To games or watch them ? Bennett has one poor game and the Set up didn't suit him and you say he's rubbish . Very laughable, he's beeen solid most the season and hence why he starts! I'm sorry Declan john Is no better than him



Well said, a fickle attack on Bennett who's our best left back.