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' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:12 am

Cardiff City need David Marshall to make 25 appearances in the Premier League for Hull and for Hull City to stay up,for Cardiff to get their full £5mill transfer fee.

And Cardiff so badly miss David Marshall in the Championship,I said it then and I will say it again the loss of Marshal was devastating for our team and bad business,yet some on here said what good business it was ? ??




Hull City gaolkeeper Eldin Jakupovic has taken over from David Marshall in the Hull goal after making 15 appearances for Hull City and Hull are bottom of the Premier League.


BY MATTHEW SOUTHCOMBE

Monday 9th Jan 2017

David Marshall was widely regarded as the best goalkeeper outside of the Premier League and when he left Cardiff City to return to the top flight last summer, it looked like a decent move for the Scot.

There wasn't a great outcry from the Bluebirds fans, more of an acceptance that Marshall was too good not to be playing at a higher level.

Maybe they thought he could do better than Hull City, having been previously linked with Arsenal and Everton, but at least Marshall could once again showcase his talent against the best.

However, it has quickly turned into a bit of a nightmare for the former Bluebirds' favourite.

And that will come as a huge surprise to many seasoned observers who have watched him perform so brilliantly in the Welsh capital over the last few years.


Hull are currently propping up the Premier League table and when that's the case, your goalkeeper is always expected to have been put under more pressure than most.

Hull have conceded more goals than any other team in the league, 27, and many fans pin the blame at Marshall's feet.

He has conceded 37 goals in just 15 Premier League starts, that's an average of more than two goals per game.

Whilst he may not always have had the best protection, Marshall has been at fault for his fair share, none more so than his calamitous own goal during the draw with Everton over the festive period.


It's in contrast to when Cardiff were around the bottom of the Premier League and Marshall was in goal for them.

Despite the relegation woes, he was comfortably Cardiff's best player that season... and even named by many as the best goalkeeper in the Premier League, too.

However, with Hull things are clearly different.

New manager Marco Silva immediately opted to reinstate Eldin Jakupovic for the FA Cup clash with Swansea City on Saturday and his man of the match performance appears to have really piled the pressure on Marshall.

Fans' favourite Jakupovic kept a clean sheet as Hull knocked the Swans out of the cup with a 2-0 victory and some supporters are calling for Marshall to warm the pine for the foreseeable future.

To make matters worse for Marshall, those who attended the KCOM Stadium were reported to have been chanting 'City's number one!' in the direction of Jakupovic during the FA Cup victory.

That was a tag that was very much Marshall's during his time as a Cardiff player. Not any more, it appears.
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Re: ' For Cardiff City to get £5mill '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:47 am

Forever Blue wrote:Cardiff City need David Marshall to make 25 appearances in the Premier League for Hull and for Hull City to stay up,for Cardiff to get their full £5mill transfer fee.

And Cardiff so badly miss David Marshall in the Championship,I said it then and I will say it again the loss of Marshal was devastating for our team and bad business,yet some on here said what good business it was ? ??



Hull City gaolkeeper Eldin Jakupovic has taken over from David Marshall in the Hull goal after making 15 appearances for Hull City and Hull are bottom of the Premier League.



BY MATTHEW SOUTHCOMBE

Monday 9th Jan 2017

David Marshall was widely regarded as the best goalkeeper outside of the Premier League and when he left Cardiff City to return to the top flight last summer, it looked like a decent move for the Scot.

There wasn't a great outcry from the Bluebirds fans, more of an acceptance that Marshall was too good not to be playing at a higher level.

Maybe they thought he could do better than Hull City, having been previously linked with Arsenal and Everton, but at least Marshall could once again showcase his talent against the best.

However, it has quickly turned into a bit of a nightmare for the former Bluebirds' favourite.

And that will come as a huge surprise to many seasoned observers who have watched him perform so brilliantly in the Welsh capital over the last few years.


Hull are currently propping up the Premier League table and when that's the case, your goalkeeper is always expected to have been put under more pressure than most.

Hull have conceded more goals than any other team in the league, 27, and many fans pin the blame at Marshall's feet.

He has conceded 37 goals in just 15 Premier League starts, that's an average of more than two goals per game.

Whilst he may not always have had the best protection, Marshall has been at fault for his fair share, none more so than his calamitous own goal during the draw with Everton over the festive period.


It's in contrast to when Cardiff were around the bottom of the Premier League and Marshall was in goal for them.

Despite the relegation woes, he was comfortably Cardiff's best player that season... and even named by many as the best goalkeeper in the Premier League, too.

However, with Hull things are clearly different.

New manager Marco Silva immediately opted to reinstate Eldin Jakupovic for the FA Cup clash with Swansea City on Saturday and his man of the match performance appears to have really piled the pressure on Marshall.

Fans' favourite Jakupovic kept a clean sheet as Hull knocked the Swans out of the cup with a 2-0 victory and some supporters are calling for Marshall to warm the pine for the foreseeable future.

To make matters worse for Marshall, those who attended the KCOM Stadium were reported to have been chanting 'City's number one!' in the direction of Jakupovic during the FA Cup victory.

That was a tag that was very much Marshall's during his time as a Cardiff player. Not any more, it appears.


I was never one of those, big loss and the bloke never wanted to leave the club/area!

I would like to keep Manga and sell Morrison, Connolly he would be a better player under NW.

The only ones who are safe in my mind are Bamba Peltier Manga Gunners and Whitts. That's my opinion

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:48 am

i doubt they have paid it up in full yet,get him back and let them cut their losses

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:55 am

keep harping on about the mistake against Everton but anyone with half an eye could see his own player barged him over.
Annis,it is plain to see that Hull will not allow him all the games needed to pay in full as unless he kept clean sheets from the day he signed so they were more or less forced to play him. These transfers with appearance's and add on stink.
Is McGregor back from injury soon?

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:07 am

At least he can take comfort in the fact that he's living in one of Britain's most dynamic, cutting edge cities.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:15 am

That's a pathetic article written by Wales Online fair play, let it go.

To say Jakupovic has 'taken over from Marshall' is very misleading, Fabianski didn't play either. In fact 17 out of the 20 Premiership Teams dropped their first choice keeper on the weekend with the only Number 1's playing being Schmeichel and Grant. Mannone played for Sunderland again but he is only in as Pickford is injured.

We all know that very few Premiership Clubs and even Championship teams play their first choice keepers in the Cup, we have done it for years ourselves.

The article is clearly written by someone who 'wants' him to fail and 'wants' it to be a nightmare for him, the fact they have taken the time to piece the article about him tells me that, definitely an agenda there.

Whether he wanted to go or not to describe it as a nightmare is laughable.

Yes it must be terrible to be playing in the Premier League, pitting your whits against some of the best players in the world at packed out stadiums like Old Trafford, Anfield, The Ethiad, Emierates whilst undoubtedly on more money.

Would be much better off playing in a Championship relegation battle for a Club going nowhere fast, in front of dwindling crowds in a half empty stadiums and getting to travel to Football Meccas such as the Pirelli and The New York Stadium for a Manager who says 'he struggled to get out of bed' for the last game.

If his current situation can be described as a 'Nightmare' I would love to know what words could be used to describe the situation if he was still here.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:23 am

I'm still confused why we sold him. I gather he wasn't overly desperate to leave and would have been more than happy to stay with us. We should have let him go to a Premier League club in the summer of 2014 when there was so much interest in him at such a high price. At least then we could have replaced him appropriately. I'm interested to see how Warnock invests over the summer. A decent keeper and a classy finisher are the main priorities. I don't think we can overstate how important those two players are.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:39 am

I think Murphy has done well,so why waste money on another keeper now, unless we can get rid of Amos leave it until the Summer?

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:41 am

ianto13 wrote:I think Murphy has done well,so why waste money on another keeper now, unless we can get rid of Amos leave it until the Summer?


I agree :thumbright: :bluebird:

We are stuck with Amos on £16,000 basic a week till June.

So Murphy is doing a good job,no more wasting money, lets spend it on a striker :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:45 pm

It is always easy to predict doom and gloom and then state you some kind of Nostradamus when things go wrong for all kinds of reasons.

David Marshall was one of our few players which other teams would have paid us a transfer fee for and even £2.5m is some help towards paying the bills. Also Amos was on less wages than Marshall so when the deal was struck it looked like a double whammey in the club's favour.

But the bad luck which has followed this club for the past few years reappeared and Amos after an OK start turned out to be awful, although fortunately Murphy is a sticking plaster for now.

Finger pointing doesn't really fix anything and it is amazing how those who crow about getting things right are completely silent when they get things wrong. :D

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:01 pm

The club have made some shocking business decisions and the footballing management (at the time) always get a free pass because this is a Tan attack board.

The was bad business, not selling him. But giving him such a massive contract at the time. It was obviously a ploy to hike up his fee if as all the media and city fans were correct and he was premier league class. In hindsight he wasn't as good as WE believed as we never turned down firm offers. Ever since Slade that was our M.O.

The same can be said of Manga. For him it was a route into the English game where all the big bucks are, for us a chance to sell him for £10 million after 12 months because he was also premier league class.

The difference between us and real premier league clubs is the knowledge at the club. This has been missing for decades, not years. No long term plans or invisible footballing structures. Just live for now, pay tomorrow culture.

Until we get real knowledge in the background with formal structures we'll always get stung. I am not talking about £100K a week types, but £100k a year jobs, but stable.

Selling Marshall was the correct thing to do. We were probably paying him 500K a year more than he was worth in the current CHAMPIONSHIP market place.

Hopefully someone like Warnock can get some of these football structures in place.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:18 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:It is always easy to predict doom and gloom and then state you some kind of Nostradamus when things go wrong for all kinds of reasons.

David Marshall was one of our few players which other teams would have paid us a transfer fee for and even £2.5m is some help towards paying the bills. Also Amos was on less wages than Marshall so when the deal was struck it looked like a double whammey in the club's favour.

But the bad luck which has followed this club for the past few years reappeared and Amos after an OK start turned out to be awful, although fortunately Murphy is a sticking plaster for now.

Finger pointing doesn't really fix anything and it is amazing how those who crow about getting things right are completely silent when they get things wrong. :D


I disagree Tony, finger pointing does help, as our club year after year keep making terrible/ very costly mistakes in the transfer market.
Amos was already washed up at Bolton and his wages of £16,000 basic a week are not a saving at all, he has cost us a fortune in points.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:20 pm

llan bluebird wrote:The club have made some shocking business decisions and the footballing management (at the time) always get a free pass because this is a Tan attack board.

The was bad business, not selling him. But giving him such a massive contract at the time. It was obviously a ploy to hike up his fee if as all the media and city fans were correct and he was premier league class. In hindsight he wasn't as good as WE believed as we never turned down firm offers. Ever since Slade that was our M.O.

The same can be said of Manga. For him it was a route into the English game where all the big bucks are, for us a chance to sell him for £10 million after 12 months because he was also premier league class.

The difference between us and real premier league clubs is the knowledge at the club. This has been missing for decades, not years. No long term plans or invisible footballing structures. Just live for now, pay tomorrow culture.

Until we get real knowledge in the background with formal structures we'll always get stung. I am not talking about £100K a week types, but £100k a year jobs, but stable.

Selling Marshall was the correct thing to do. We were probably paying him 500K a year more than he was worth in the current CHAMPIONSHIP market place.


Hopefully someone like Warnock can get some of these football structures in place.



You can't keep blaming managers and CEO's, 7 managers and 6 CEO'S, its who appoints them and looks over their dealings,that in life is a fact,the buck stops at the top.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:28 pm

Fact remains Marshy was ousted out of the club for a pathetic transfer fee, he and his family were settled down here, there is simply no loyalty in the modern game.

It was so cut throat he wasn't even given a proper send off, this is the GK that kept us in so many matches with some outstanding saves.

One positive it appears since Warnock has taken over, our club is starting to pull in the right direction.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:It is always easy to predict doom and gloom and then state you some kind of Nostradamus when things go wrong for all kinds of reasons.

David Marshall was one of our few players which other teams would have paid us a transfer fee for and even £2.5m is some help towards paying the bills. Also Amos was on less wages than Marshall so when the deal was struck it looked like a double whammey in the club's favour.

But the bad luck which has followed this club for the past few years reappeared and Amos after an OK start turned out to be awful, although fortunately Murphy is a sticking plaster for now.

Finger pointing doesn't really fix anything and it is amazing how those who crow about getting things right are completely silent when they get things wrong. :D


I disagree Tony, finger pointing does help, as our club year after year keep making terrible/ very costly mistakes in the transfer market.
Amos was already washed up at Bolton and his wages of £16,000 basic a week are not a saving at all, he has cost us a fortune in points.


The club has made profits each season from its player sales, have they not? I don't think the club has made too many clangers in recent years, everyone makes mistakes though. This summer was a disaster in terms of signings but that's on Trollope.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:14 pm

more genius business

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:24 pm

Hull offered £5M no one else offered anythin. Yes there have been a few "enquiries" but Hull were the first team to ever offer real money (albeit with certain clauses) the club had to act.

Look at it this way, Marshall pulled off a load of super saves and was probably the reason we didn't suffer from many last minute equalisers or winners last season like we have this season. If he'd have stayed, we would probably still had Trollope in charge and a poor choice of captain.
Marshall leaving highlighted hiw poor a team we had and brought about the change that was needed, the change that brought Warnock, Bamba and Hoilett to the club as well as a renewed passion and drive at the CCS.

Marshall was great but needed to go .

Time to move on from the old and be excited about the future.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:21 pm

Mr Shed wrote:Hull offered £5M no one else offered anythin. Yes there have been a few "enquiries" but Hull were the first team to ever offer real money (albeit with certain clauses) the club had to act.

Look at it this way, Marshall pulled off a load of super saves and was probably the reason we didn't suffer from many last minute equalisers or winners last season like we have this season. If he'd have stayed, we would probably still had Trollope in charge and a poor choice of captain.
Marshall leaving highlighted hiw poor a team we had and brought about the change that was needed, the change that brought Warnock, Bamba and Hoilett to the club as well as a renewed passion and drive at the CCS.

Marshall was great but needed to go .

Time to move on from the old and be excited about the future.



£5mill but not £5mill upfront ? we virtually gave him away and it's cost us big time.

Future goalie? Ben Amos a costly disaster and we are now paying him till the end of the season for doing nothing, so not time to move on.

Re: ' Cardiff City £5Mill Transfer ? '

Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:07 pm

nubbsy wrote:more genius business


;)