Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:12 am
Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:47 am
Forever Blue wrote:Cardiff City need David Marshall to make 25 appearances in the Premier League for Hull and for Hull City to stay up,for Cardiff to get their full £5mill transfer fee.
And Cardiff so badly miss David Marshall in the Championship,I said it then and I will say it again the loss of Marshal was devastating for our team and bad business,yet some on here said what good business it was ? ??
Hull City gaolkeeper Eldin Jakupovic has taken over from David Marshall in the Hull goal after making 15 appearances for Hull City and Hull are bottom of the Premier League.
BY MATTHEW SOUTHCOMBE
Monday 9th Jan 2017
David Marshall was widely regarded as the best goalkeeper outside of the Premier League and when he left Cardiff City to return to the top flight last summer, it looked like a decent move for the Scot.
There wasn't a great outcry from the Bluebirds fans, more of an acceptance that Marshall was too good not to be playing at a higher level.
Maybe they thought he could do better than Hull City, having been previously linked with Arsenal and Everton, but at least Marshall could once again showcase his talent against the best.
However, it has quickly turned into a bit of a nightmare for the former Bluebirds' favourite.
And that will come as a huge surprise to many seasoned observers who have watched him perform so brilliantly in the Welsh capital over the last few years.
Hull are currently propping up the Premier League table and when that's the case, your goalkeeper is always expected to have been put under more pressure than most.
Hull have conceded more goals than any other team in the league, 27, and many fans pin the blame at Marshall's feet.
He has conceded 37 goals in just 15 Premier League starts, that's an average of more than two goals per game.
Whilst he may not always have had the best protection, Marshall has been at fault for his fair share, none more so than his calamitous own goal during the draw with Everton over the festive period.
It's in contrast to when Cardiff were around the bottom of the Premier League and Marshall was in goal for them.
Despite the relegation woes, he was comfortably Cardiff's best player that season... and even named by many as the best goalkeeper in the Premier League, too.
However, with Hull things are clearly different.
New manager Marco Silva immediately opted to reinstate Eldin Jakupovic for the FA Cup clash with Swansea City on Saturday and his man of the match performance appears to have really piled the pressure on Marshall.
Fans' favourite Jakupovic kept a clean sheet as Hull knocked the Swans out of the cup with a 2-0 victory and some supporters are calling for Marshall to warm the pine for the foreseeable future.
To make matters worse for Marshall, those who attended the KCOM Stadium were reported to have been chanting 'City's number one!' in the direction of Jakupovic during the FA Cup victory.
That was a tag that was very much Marshall's during his time as a Cardiff player. Not any more, it appears.
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:41 am
ianto13 wrote:I think Murphy has done well,so why waste money on another keeper now, unless we can get rid of Amos leave it until the Summer?
Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:45 pm
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:18 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:It is always easy to predict doom and gloom and then state you some kind of Nostradamus when things go wrong for all kinds of reasons.
David Marshall was one of our few players which other teams would have paid us a transfer fee for and even £2.5m is some help towards paying the bills. Also Amos was on less wages than Marshall so when the deal was struck it looked like a double whammey in the club's favour.
But the bad luck which has followed this club for the past few years reappeared and Amos after an OK start turned out to be awful, although fortunately Murphy is a sticking plaster for now.
Finger pointing doesn't really fix anything and it is amazing how those who crow about getting things right are completely silent when they get things wrong.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:20 pm
llan bluebird wrote:The club have made some shocking business decisions and the footballing management (at the time) always get a free pass because this is a Tan attack board.
The was bad business, not selling him. But giving him such a massive contract at the time. It was obviously a ploy to hike up his fee if as all the media and city fans were correct and he was premier league class. In hindsight he wasn't as good as WE believed as we never turned down firm offers. Ever since Slade that was our M.O.
The same can be said of Manga. For him it was a route into the English game where all the big bucks are, for us a chance to sell him for £10 million after 12 months because he was also premier league class.
The difference between us and real premier league clubs is the knowledge at the club. This has been missing for decades, not years. No long term plans or invisible footballing structures. Just live for now, pay tomorrow culture.
Until we get real knowledge in the background with formal structures we'll always get stung. I am not talking about £100K a week types, but £100k a year jobs, but stable.
Selling Marshall was the correct thing to do. We were probably paying him 500K a year more than he was worth in the current CHAMPIONSHIP market place.
Hopefully someone like Warnock can get some of these football structures in place.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:28 pm
Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:26 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:It is always easy to predict doom and gloom and then state you some kind of Nostradamus when things go wrong for all kinds of reasons.
David Marshall was one of our few players which other teams would have paid us a transfer fee for and even £2.5m is some help towards paying the bills. Also Amos was on less wages than Marshall so when the deal was struck it looked like a double whammey in the club's favour.
But the bad luck which has followed this club for the past few years reappeared and Amos after an OK start turned out to be awful, although fortunately Murphy is a sticking plaster for now.
Finger pointing doesn't really fix anything and it is amazing how those who crow about getting things right are completely silent when they get things wrong.
I disagree Tony, finger pointing does help, as our club year after year keep making terrible/ very costly mistakes in the transfer market.
Amos was already washed up at Bolton and his wages of £16,000 basic a week are not a saving at all, he has cost us a fortune in points.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:14 pm
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:21 pm
Mr Shed wrote:Hull offered £5M no one else offered anythin. Yes there have been a few "enquiries" but Hull were the first team to ever offer real money (albeit with certain clauses) the club had to act.
Look at it this way, Marshall pulled off a load of super saves and was probably the reason we didn't suffer from many last minute equalisers or winners last season like we have this season. If he'd have stayed, we would probably still had Trollope in charge and a poor choice of captain.
Marshall leaving highlighted hiw poor a team we had and brought about the change that was needed, the change that brought Warnock, Bamba and Hoilett to the club as well as a renewed passion and drive at the CCS.
Marshall was great but needed to go .
Time to move on from the old and be excited about the future.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:07 pm
nubbsy wrote:more genius business