Terrible kick off time and live on Sky Sports

Norwich fans have to travel today to Brentford on New Years Eve, 5.15pm kick off and live on Sky tv.

Fair play to Norwich fans sold their allocation of 1,600 tickets, but you have to feel for the Norwich fans.

Not sure if it's the modern use of computers or not, but the whole fixture list seems out of synch in recent years and none more so than for 'derby' and 'seasonal' fixtures

We've just had a Christmas that saw us with NO home fixtures, whilst other teams had TWO. Equally, some of the distances some teams (and their fans) have had to travel is crazy and this Norwich game is a-typical of the madness that is thrown up

I appreciate that some games (like the Brentford v Norwich game tonight) are governed by Sky/BT TV schedules but surely the well-paid Football League officials have the opportunity to look at some of these anomalies before they are put out and/or agreed?

Not sure if it's the modern use of computers or not, but the whole fixture list seems out of synch in recent years and none more so than for 'derby' and 'seasonal' fixtures

We've just had a Christmas that saw us with NO home fixtures, whilst other teams had TWO. Equally, some of the distances some teams (and their fans) have had to travel is crazy and this Norwich game is a-typical of the madness that is thrown up

I appreciate that some games (like the Brentford v Norwich game tonight) are governed by Sky/BT TV schedules but surely the well-paid Football League officials have the opportunity to look at some of these anomalies before they are put out and/or agreed?

Chris, its money and greed that has ruined football, they don't really care about the average fan.

The clubs could pass on the TV money and subsidize the entry price or travel arrangements, but they pocket it.

The clubs could pass on the TV money and subsidize the entry price or travel arrangements, but they pocket it.

Thats exactly what they should do

Not sure if it's the modern use of computers or not, but the whole fixture list seems out of synch in recent years and none more so than for 'derby' and 'seasonal' fixtures

We've just had a Christmas that saw us with NO home fixtures, whilst other teams had TWO. Equally, some of the distances some teams (and their fans) have had to travel is crazy and this Norwich game is a-typical of the madness that is thrown up

I appreciate that some games (like the Brentford v Norwich game tonight) are governed by Sky/BT TV schedules but surely the well-paid Football League officials have the opportunity to look at some of these anomalies before they are put out and/or agreed?

Our midweek fixtures are horrific aswell mate, no consideration for the fans.

Boro midweek 2 years in a row, Hull, Burnley, Wigan, Bolton and Brighton all been midweek at times last few years. I dont know who comes up with this.

Blackburn and Blackpool on Friday nights.

Preston, Barnsley and Blackburn on Tuesday nights this season, its ridiculous and little wonder our average away attendance is getting lower and lower.

Not sure if it's the modern use of computers or not, but the whole fixture list seems out of synch in recent years and none more so than for 'derby' and 'seasonal' fixtures

We've just had a Christmas that saw us with NO home fixtures, whilst other teams had TWO. Equally, some of the distances some teams (and their fans) have had to travel is crazy and this Norwich game is a-typical of the madness that is thrown up

I appreciate that some games (like the Brentford v Norwich game tonight) are governed by Sky/BT TV schedules but surely the well-paid Football League officials have the opportunity to look at some of these anomalies before they are put out and/or agreed?

2 points here. the computer gave us the biggest combined travelling in our division over the xmas period.
then both games get the K.O moved.

Terrible kick off time and terrible game.

Feel sorry for the Norwich fans who wouldn't have got much before midnight.

Can't believe that many of the tv viewers would have made it through to the end.

Not sure if it's the modern use of computers or not, but the whole fixture list seems out of synch in recent years and none more so than for 'derby' and 'seasonal' fixtures

We've just had a Christmas that saw us with NO home fixtures, whilst other teams had TWO. Equally, some of the distances some teams (and their fans) have had to travel is crazy and this Norwich game is a-typical of the madness that is thrown up

I appreciate that some games (like the Brentford v Norwich game tonight) are governed by Sky/BT TV schedules but surely the well-paid Football League officials have the opportunity to look at some of these anomalies before they are put out and/or agreed?

Our midweek fixtures are horrific aswell mate, no consideration for the fans.

Boro midweek 2 years in a row, Hull, Burnley, Wigan, Bolton and Brighton all been midweek at times last few years. I dont know who comes up with this.

Blackburn and Blackpool on Friday nights.

Preston, Barnsley and Blackburn on Tuesday nights this season, its ridiculous and little wonder our average away attendance is getting lower and lower.

All those night games I travelled to with City,but its just the same for other clubs,the Football Authorities do not care for the football fan.

Not sure if it's the modern use of computers or not, but the whole fixture list seems out of synch in recent years and none more so than for 'derby' and 'seasonal' fixtures

We've just had a Christmas that saw us with NO home fixtures, whilst other teams had TWO. Equally, some of the distances some teams (and their fans) have had to travel is crazy and this Norwich game is a-typical of the madness that is thrown up

I appreciate that some games (like the Brentford v Norwich game tonight) are governed by Sky/BT TV schedules but surely the well-paid Football League officials have the opportunity to look at some of these anomalies before they are put out and/or agreed?

Our midweek fixtures are horrific aswell mate, no consideration for the fans.

Boro midweek 2 years in a row, Hull, Burnley, Wigan, Bolton and Brighton all been midweek at times last few years. I dont know who comes up with this.

Blackburn and Blackpool on Friday nights.

Preston, Barnsley and Blackburn on Tuesday nights this season, its ridiculous and little wonder our average away attendance is getting lower and lower.

All those night games I travelled to with City,but its just the same for other clubs,the Football Authorities do not care for the football fan.

but it really is not the same,we got the most miles over xmas AGAIN. and to put a cherry on it crap kick off times.
you posted on here about leeds taking 5500 to preston,which is fantastic support but how?
how are Leeds allowed to take 5500 to a game only 60 odd miles away with a 3 o clock k.o.no restrictions {silly K.O times are restrictions btw}

Not sure if it's the modern use of computers or not, but the whole fixture list seems out of synch in recent years and none more so than for 'derby' and 'seasonal' fixtures

We've just had a Christmas that saw us with NO home fixtures, whilst other teams had TWO. Equally, some of the distances some teams (and their fans) have had to travel is crazy and this Norwich game is a-typical of the madness that is thrown up

I appreciate that some games (like the Brentford v Norwich game tonight) are governed by Sky/BT TV schedules but surely the well-paid Football League officials have the opportunity to look at some of these anomalies before they are put out and/or agreed?

Our midweek fixtures are horrific aswell mate, no consideration for the fans.

Boro midweek 2 years in a row, Hull, Burnley, Wigan, Bolton and Brighton all been midweek at times last few years. I dont know who comes up with this.

Blackburn and Blackpool on Friday nights.

Preston, Barnsley and Blackburn on Tuesday nights this season, its ridiculous and little wonder our average away attendance is getting lower and lower.

All those night games I travelled to with City,but its just the same for other clubs,the Football Authorities do not care for the football fan.

but it really is not the same,we got the most miles over xmas AGAIN. and to put a cherry on it crap kick off times.
you posted on here about leeds taking 5500 to preston,which is fantastic support but how?
how are Leeds allowed to take 5500 to a game only 60 odd miles away with a 3 o clock k.o.no restrictions {silly K.O times are restrictions btw}

Listen, I can't stand Leeds, but we can't even compare our away support with theirs, they are in the Top 10 in the U.K.

When we play Reading away 3pm No restrictions, we don't even sell 2,000 tickets nowadays, yet years ago we would take 4,000 away fans there, Sadly for now our away support has gone, last season we 21st out of 23 teams for away support.

95% of our away games for the last three years have been pay on the gate with No restrictions.


Back to Norwich same distance to Brentford as us, but they were 5.15pm News Years Eve Live on Sky, Surely that was bad for them?

im more concerned with Cardiff. yes other clubs have crap kick offs,that one is down to tv. but it really is us that got the 2 longest trips. and it really is us that gets K.Os moved for non tv reasons more than any other club.
the result has been over many years our away support has suffered.
my point with leeds in this thread is not that 5500 is not fantastic support because it is.
but how can anyone justify all our restricted trips and times when other clubs seem to carry on as normal?

im more concerned with Cardiff. yes other clubs have crap kick offs,that one is down to tv. but it really is us that got the 2 longest trips. and it really is us that gets K.Os moved for non tv reasons more than any other club.
the result has been over many years our away support has suffered.
my point with leeds in this thread is not that 5500 is not fantastic support because it is.
but how can anyone justify all our restricted trips and times when other clubs seem to carry on as normal?

Sadly that's down to our own police and Wayne Nash not standing up for our Supporters and fighting our corner enough as they meet up with other clubs officials and decide on all this beforehand.

Who are the two longest trips?

Fair play to Norwich they have a very loyal, hardcore support, I suppose spending 29 of the last 30 seasons in the top two divisions, 14 of them at the very top as helped mind.

Fair play to Norwich they have a very loyal, hardcore support, I suppose spending 29 of the last 30 seasons in the top two divisions, 14 of them at the very top as helped mind.

It does help your right.

We have had 15 years in the Top 2 Divisions, but now take less away than when we were in the lower divisions,yet we now have a bigger home support and bigger fan base?

Annis for me mate its because the fun has gone out of it, all the laughs have been sucked out of it over many years and we are now left with what we got

Annis for me mate its because the fun has gone out of it, all the laughs have been sucked out of it over many years and we are now left with what we got

That's how I felt the last 5 years were more of a chore or that I just kept going through loyalty,I was not enjoying it like I use to.

Annis for me mate its because the fun has gone out of it, all the laughs have been sucked out of it over many years and we are now left with what we got

That's how I felt the last 5 years were more of a chore or that I just kept going through loyalty,I was not enjoying it like I use to.

im more concerned with Cardiff. yes other clubs have crap kick offs,that one is down to tv. but it really is us that got the 2 longest trips. and it really is us that gets K.Os moved for non tv reasons more than any other club.
the result has been over many years our away support has suffered.
my point with leeds in this thread is not that 5500 is not fantastic support because it is.
but how can anyone justify all our restricted trips and times when other clubs seem to carry on as normal?

Sadly that's down to our own police and Wayne Nash not standing up for our Supporters and fighting our corner enough as they meet up with other clubs officials and decide on all this beforehand.

Who are the two longest trips?

the longest in our division was bristol to ipswich but they had wolves as the other away, us at brighton was 2nd longest in our div but coupled with a 146 mile trip to brentford.

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im more concerned with Cardiff. yes other clubs have crap kick offs,that one is down to tv. but it really is us that got the 2 longest trips. and it really is us that gets K.Os moved for non tv reasons more than any other club.
the result has been over many years our away support has suffered.
my point with leeds in this thread is not that 5500 is not fantastic support because it is.
but how can anyone justify all our restricted trips and times when other clubs seem to carry on as normal?

Sadly that's down to our own police and Wayne Nash not standing up for our Supporters and fighting our corner enough as they meet up with other clubs officials and decide on all this beforehand.

Who are the two longest trips?

nobody fights our corner and if anything those mentioned are actually the ones urging other forces to restrict our fans. its not just the last couple of years either its been going on for ages.many like you say find it a chore many more just gave up going. the one that really hit home was ironically burnley which was a 3 o clock on saturday. only 1600 to watch us win a title, 20 years earlier 3 times that amount travelled to scunthorpe to watch us win the 4th division.

im more concerned with Cardiff. yes other clubs have crap kick offs,that one is down to tv. but it really is us that got the 2 longest trips. and it really is us that gets K.Os moved for non tv reasons more than any other club.
the result has been over many years our away support has suffered.
my point with leeds in this thread is not that 5500 is not fantastic support because it is.
but how can anyone justify all our restricted trips and times when other clubs seem to carry on as normal?

Sadly that's down to our own police and Wayne Nash not standing up for our Supporters and fighting our corner enough as they meet up with other clubs officials and decide on all this beforehand.

Who are the two longest trips?

nobody fights our corner and if anything those mentioned are actually the ones urging other forces to restrict our fans. its not just the last couple of years either its been going on for ages.many like you say find it a chore many more just gave up going. the one that really hit home was ironically burnley which was a 3 o clock on saturday. only 1600 to watch us win a title, 20 years earlier 3 times that amount travelled to scunthorpe to watch us win the 4th division.

Correct and spot on


I went to Burnley away and it was pay on the day and to win the Championship Title for the first time in our history,we took 1,500-1,600 fans for a Saturday 3pm,when we could of had 3,000 there, that said it all. No Restrictions at all.

But your right our own club don't fight our corner,so what chance of our fans got? ?

Our following at Burnley that day was absolutely shocking and showed how much some of our hardcore fans had been alienated by the rebrand.