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Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:18 am

The two Cardiff City players set to leave in January as Neil Warnock reveals lucrative offer from Qatar


Warnock is likely to release the former Arsenal star alongside Kieran Richardson


BY PHIL SMITH

Friday 23rd Dec 2016

Cardiff City boss Neil Warnock has said that Kieran Richardson and Marouane Chamakh are likely be released when their contracts expire in January.

The pair joined on short-term deals shortly after Neil Warnock's arrival in South Wales but struggled to pin down a regular spot in the side.

Richardson made six appearances for the Bluebirds but only two starts, subbed off at half-time in his last appearance, the 2-1 win over Wolves. Chamakh found it even harder to break in, featuring just twice and not since the defeat to Newcastle United at the start of November.

Warnock revealed that the former Arsenal star has already had lucrative offers from abroad.

He said: "I'll be speaking to them, because it's important that I get the right balance, probably before the Boxing Day game we'll be having a talk with those two.

"It's not 100%, but I think both lads realise that I want to bring people in, and they're the obvious two that I can get off the wage bill. So the chances are that we will be releasing them. I feel a bit sorry for Chamakh because I brought him in, looking at the videos I thought that we needed an influx of players.

"I wasn't aware of Huw at the time, or of Declan John when I brought Kieran in. I didn't think we had any cover at all for Rickie Lambert which is why I brought Chamakh in. When the opportunities have come I've actually gone with Freddie because he'd done well in training.



"I'm looking for more of a Ken type player [up front].

"He's been a good pro really, he's given me no hassle whatsoever, trained well. Kieran's been a really good pro but I feel we've got to manipulate this squad and those two are the easiest targets.

"They'll both get clubs. Chamakh, he can make a fortune in Qatar and these places, the money that he's been offered is quite immoral really. You can't blame him, can you? When you look at Oscar, it's frightening the way it is going."
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Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:24 am

Some of the things he's said there are beyond belief and if it was anyone else he would be getting slaughtered.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:26 am

Cardiff City boss Neil Warnock has said that Kieran Richardson and Marouane Chamakh are likely be released when their contracts expire in January.



Warnock: "I feel a bit sorry for Chamakh because I brought him in, looking at the videos I thought that we needed an influx of players."

"I wasn't aware of Huw at the time, or of Declan John when I brought Kieran Richardson in. I didn't think we had any cover at all for Rickie Lambert which is why I brought Chamakh in. When the opportunities have come I've actually gone with Freddie because he'd done well in training."
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Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:38 am

Cardiff City manager Neil Warnock is hoping to sign at least four players during the January transfer window.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:42 am

Chamakh is lazy and given up .. I can't see him getting a contract else where
Richardson was a waiste of wage but I can't fault Warnock taking the gamble of the short term

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:46 am

Not having a go for the sake of it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but he's basically admitting he hadn't looked into our squad properly before signing them.

How he can say he wasn't aware of Declan John is beyond me?

Neither Richardson or Chamakh would have come cheap, trust me when I say we would have had to make it worth their while to come down here even on short term deals.

I reckon they would both be on 20k a week not even taking into consideration a reported signing on fee for Chamakh and agent fee's etc.

Got to have have squandered £750,000 to a £1,000,000 on this pair which could have been spent in January. Getting them off the wage bill is nothing to be proud of, it just brings us back to where we were when he started minus a load of cash.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:13 pm

I'm sorry but I really don't understand this big love-in with Warnock. He hasn't proved anything yet. At the moment we are sitting just off the bottom three and with some very tough fixtures over Christmas we could be back in the relegation zone.

We need to see what happens in January, but lets be honest to date he hasn't made any significant impact. To me he just seems to be very outspoken but has delivered little. He can talk the talk but now he needs to walk the walk.

If Slade or Trollope had bought in Richardson or Chamakh they would have been slaughtered for not playing them and wasting resources. For Warnock to say he wasn't aware of Huws or Declan is quite outrageous.

Also our tactics at times have been woeful. Wigan, first half against Wolves (we would have been beaten against a better team) and the mistakes against Barnsley. Again, if this had been Slade he would have been ripped apart.

I think we need to judge Warnock on current performance (to be fair following the January window) not on former successes.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:36 pm

Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:50 pm

BrightBlueFuture wrote:Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.


What an absolute load of bollocks that is, who exactly is feeling sorry for the players? What lies did Slade or Trollope tell?

Just because someone admits something doesn't make them immune to criticism. We all want things to work out under Warnock and for him to take us forward, doesn't mean we all have to live with our tongue firmly in his anus.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:50 pm

Been here 11 weeks and already fans criticising him.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:55 pm

SWilliams wrote:I'm sorry but I really don't understand this big love-in with Warnock. He hasn't proved anything yet. At the moment we are sitting just off the bottom three and with some very tough fixtures over Christmas we could be back in the relegation zone.

We need to see what happens in January, but lets be honest to date he hasn't made any significant impact. To me he just seems to be very outspoken but has delivered little. He can talk the talk but now he needs to walk the walk.

If Slade or Trollope had bought in Richardson or Chamakh they would have been slaughtered for not playing them and wasting resources. For Warnock to say he wasn't aware of Huws or Declan is quite outrageous.

Also our tactics at times have been woeful. Wigan, first half against Wolves (we would have been beaten against a better team) and the mistakes against Barnsley. Again, if this had been Slade he would have been ripped apart.

I think we need to judge Warnock on current performance (to be fair following the January window) not on former successes.


7 promotions speaks for itself you absolute tool, there is no manager out there better prepared to keep us from relegation.

Seriously some of our fanbase are wankers !!

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:29 pm

SWilliams wrote:I'm sorry but I really don't understand this big love-in with Warnock. He hasn't proved anything yet. At the moment we are sitting just off the bottom three and with some very tough fixtures over Christmas we could be back in the relegation zone.

We need to see what happens in January, but lets be honest to date he hasn't made any significant impact. To me he just seems to be very outspoken but has delivered little. He can talk the talk but now he needs to walk the walk.

If Slade or Trollope had bought in Richardson or Chamakh they would have been slaughtered for not playing them and wasting resources. For Warnock to say he wasn't aware of Huws or Declan is quite outrageous.

Also our tactics at times have been woeful. Wigan, first half against Wolves (we would have been beaten against a better team) and the mistakes against Barnsley. Again, if this had been Slade he would have been ripped apart.

I think we need to judge Warnock on current performance (to be fair following the January window) not on former successes.


Performances have definitely been better and the brand of football is much more passionate. There is work to do but given this squad how many other managers out there would get better results? At some point we have to draw a line in the sand and say this manager is staying even if we go down as sackings every 5 minutes is not proving to be the solution.

I have faith in NW but like anyone he needs time and we must give him it.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:31 pm

SWilliams wrote:I'm sorry but I really don't understand this big love-in with Warnock. He hasn't proved anything yet. At the moment we are sitting just off the bottom three and with some very tough fixtures over Christmas we could be back in the relegation zone.

We need to see what happens in January, but lets be honest to date he hasn't made any significant impact. To me he just seems to be very outspoken but has delivered little. He can talk the talk but now he needs to walk the walk.

If Slade or Trollope had bought in Richardson or Chamakh they would have been slaughtered for not playing them and wasting resources. For Warnock to say he wasn't aware of Huws or Declan is quite outrageous.

Also our tactics at times have been woeful. Wigan, first half against Wolves (we would have been beaten against a better team) and the mistakes against Barnsley. Again, if this had been Slade he would have been ripped apart.

I think we need to judge Warnock on current performance (to be fair following the January window) not on former successes.


did you watch us under Trollope? Huge improvement, players putting bodies on the line, creating chances and playing for the shirt. I don't think people realised how imbalanced the squad was, personally think the fact we are just head Above water without a transfer window is an achievement. He's galvanised some players, and I ask you to remember this post in a few months. :thumbup:

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:36 pm

RV Casual wrote:Not having a go for the sake of it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but he's basically admitting he hadn't looked into our squad properly before signing them.

How he can say he wasn't aware of Declan John is beyond me?

Neither Richardson or Chamakh would have come cheap, trust me when I say we would have had to make it worth their while to come down here even on short term deals.

I reckon they would both be on 20k a week not even taking into consideration a reported signing on fee for Chamakh and agent fee's etc.

Got to have have squandered £750,000 to a £1,000,000 on this pair which could have been spent in January. Getting them off the wage bill is nothing to be proud of, it just brings us back to where we were when he started minus a load of cash.


If Russell Slade, or Ken Choo, had made those comments this forum would be going into melt down.

Cos its Neil Warnock people like his brutal honesty :lol:

Dont get me wrong we are all guilty of it sometimes but the double standards here are quite shocking :lol:

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:41 pm

polo wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Not having a go for the sake of it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but he's basically admitting he hadn't looked into our squad properly before signing them.

How he can say he wasn't aware of Declan John is beyond me?

Neither Richardson or Chamakh would have come cheap, trust me when I say we would have had to make it worth their while to come down here even on short term deals.

I reckon they would both be on 20k a week not even taking into consideration a reported signing on fee for Chamakh and agent fee's etc.

Got to have have squandered £750,000 to a £1,000,000 on this pair which could have been spent in January. Getting them off the wage bill is nothing to be proud of, it just brings us back to where we were when he started minus a load of cash.


If Russell Slade, or Ken Choo, had made those comments this forum would be going into melt down.

Cos its Neil Warnock people like his brutal honesty :lol:

Dont get me wrong we are all guilty of it sometimes but the double standards here are quite shocking :lol:


If you compare NW's CV with Russell Slade's or Ken Choo's then you get the reason why Warnock is trusted and can get away with more than those 2 in terms of honest assessment.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:53 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
polo wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Not having a go for the sake of it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but he's basically admitting he hadn't looked into our squad properly before signing them.

How he can say he wasn't aware of Declan John is beyond me?

Neither Richardson or Chamakh would have come cheap, trust me when I say we would have had to make it worth their while to come down here even on short term deals.

I reckon they would both be on 20k a week not even taking into consideration a reported signing on fee for Chamakh and agent fee's etc.

Got to have have squandered £750,000 to a £1,000,000 on this pair which could have been spent in January. Getting them off the wage bill is nothing to be proud of, it just brings us back to where we were when he started minus a load of cash.


If Russell Slade, or Ken Choo, had made those comments this forum would be going into melt down.

Cos its Neil Warnock people like his brutal honesty :lol:

Dont get me wrong we are all guilty of it sometimes but the double standards here are quite shocking :lol:


If you compare NW's CV with Russell Slade's or Ken Choo's then you get the reason why Warnock is trusted and can get away with more than those 2 in terms of honest assessment.


Poppycock

Mourinho's CV is far, far better than Warnocks and if he come out and said he had 2 first team squad players in his squad who he didnt even knew played for the club the press would be all over him.

"Im gettign rid of Mykitharian in January as I shouldnt have signed him in the first place. I didnt realise Juan Mata played for us". Well done Jose. Not.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:12 pm

polo wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
polo wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Not having a go for the sake of it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but he's basically admitting he hadn't looked into our squad properly before signing them.

How he can say he wasn't aware of Declan John is beyond me?

Neither Richardson or Chamakh would have come cheap, trust me when I say we would have had to make it worth their while to come down here even on short term deals.

I reckon they would both be on 20k a week not even taking into consideration a reported signing on fee for Chamakh and agent fee's etc.

Got to have have squandered £750,000 to a £1,000,000 on this pair which could have been spent in January. Getting them off the wage bill is nothing to be proud of, it just brings us back to where we were when he started minus a load of cash.


If Russell Slade, or Ken Choo, had made those comments this forum would be going into melt down.

Cos its Neil Warnock people like his brutal honesty :lol:

Dont get me wrong we are all guilty of it sometimes but the double standards here are quite shocking :lol:


If you compare NW's CV with Russell Slade's or Ken Choo's then you get the reason why Warnock is trusted and can get away with more than those 2 in terms of honest assessment.


Poppycock

Mourinho's CV is far, far better than Warnocks and if he come out and said he had 2 first team squad players in his squad who he didnt even knew played for the club the press would be all over him.

"Im gettign rid of Mykitharian in January as I shouldnt have signed him in the first place. I didnt realise Juan Mata played for us". Well done Jose. Not.


All managers make mistakes Sir Alex Ferguson (the greatest CV of all) signed Bebé for £7m who turned out to be a complete dud and he wasn't the only one.

It is reasonable to assume that NW didn't have a great knowledge of the players at our club when he took over. He had a chance to sign some players to boost the squad short term and took it. That term is now coming to an end and he is looking to use resources else where and I interpret his comments today in that context.

Makes perfect logic to me and I trust him to do what's right. Of course you can disagree and throw toys out of the pram but it is hard to understand what good you think you're doing?

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:19 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
polo wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
polo wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Not having a go for the sake of it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but he's basically admitting he hadn't looked into our squad properly before signing them.

How he can say he wasn't aware of Declan John is beyond me?

Neither Richardson or Chamakh would have come cheap, trust me when I say we would have had to make it worth their while to come down here even on short term deals.

I reckon they would both be on 20k a week not even taking into consideration a reported signing on fee for Chamakh and agent fee's etc.

Got to have have squandered £750,000 to a £1,000,000 on this pair which could have been spent in January. Getting them off the wage bill is nothing to be proud of, it just brings us back to where we were when he started minus a load of cash.


If Russell Slade, or Ken Choo, had made those comments this forum would be going into melt down.

Cos its Neil Warnock people like his brutal honesty :lol:

Dont get me wrong we are all guilty of it sometimes but the double standards here are quite shocking :lol:


If you compare NW's CV with Russell Slade's or Ken Choo's then you get the reason why Warnock is trusted and can get away with more than those 2 in terms of honest assessment.


Poppycock

Mourinho's CV is far, far better than Warnocks and if he come out and said he had 2 first team squad players in his squad who he didnt even knew played for the club the press would be all over him.

"Im gettign rid of Mykitharian in January as I shouldnt have signed him in the first place. I didnt realise Juan Mata played for us". Well done Jose. Not.


All managers make mistakes Sir Alex Ferguson (the greatest CV of all) signed Bebé for £7m who turned out to be a complete dud and he wasn't the only one.

It is reasonable to assume that NW didn't have a great knowledge of the players at our club when he took over. He had a chance to sign some players to boost the squad short term and took it. That term is now coming to an end and he is looking to use resources else where and I interpret his comments today in that context.

Makes perfect logic to me and I trust him to do what's right. Of course you can disagree and throw toys out of the pram but it is hard to understand what good you think you're doing?


Yes throwing money down the drain makes such "perfect logic". :roll:

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:46 pm

RV Casual wrote:Not having a go for the sake of it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but he's basically admitting he hadn't looked into our squad properly before signing them.

How he can say he wasn't aware of Declan John is beyond me?

Neither Richardson or Chamakh would have come cheap, trust me when I say we would have had to make it worth their while to come down here even on short term deals.

I reckon they would both be on 20k a week not even taking into consideration a reported signing on fee for Chamakh and agent fee's etc.

Got to have have squandered £750,000 to a £1,000,000 on this pair which could have been spent in January. Getting them off the wage bill is nothing to be proud of, it just brings us back to where we were when he started minus a load of cash.


There was no signing on fee as it was a 3 month contract and they would be on around 10-15k a week each but fair point, that's probably £250,000 down the drain.

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Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:12 pm

I think the sort of figures being bandied around are way off the mark lads.

They won't have been on anything serious by football standards

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:14 pm

RV Casual wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.


What an absolute load of bollocks that is, who exactly is feeling sorry for the players? What lies did Slade or Trollope tell?

Just because someone admits something doesn't make them immune to criticism. We all want things to work out under Warnock and for him to take us forward, doesn't mean we all have to live with our tongue firmly in his anus.

Any other manager out there that'll do a better job? Let us know.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:22 pm

RV Casual wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.


What an absolute load of bollocks that is, who exactly is feeling sorry for the players? What lies did Slade or Trollope tell?

Just because someone admits something doesn't make them immune to criticism. We all want things to work out under Warnock and for him to take us forward, doesn't mean we all have to live with our tongue firmly in his anus.


I agree RV Casual.
BrightBlueFuture - Who is actually 'trying to lynch Warnock'?
There's been a couple of pretty valid points about this situation and I don't see or here anybody wanting to lynch the guy.
Maybe he's made a couple of minor mistakes but I and virtually everybody on here seems to have trust in him, doesn't mean he's immune to criticism though.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:25 pm

I see a manager who's trying to get 100% out of every player he's got .anyone not giving their all or not up to it is out.thats all I ask I'm there home and away every game as Long as neils the manager he don't suffer fools and that's the way I like it.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:28 pm

I should think Warnock's numer one priority when he arrived here was to make sure we are not playing Div 1 football next season, and that is where we appeared to be heading at the time. Lets see what happens between now and May. If we are still in the Championship this Summer, he will have done ok. If we can survive, I expect the target for next season will be a bit more than just survival.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:35 pm

My post seems to have been misunderstood by some. I'm not suggesting that there is currently another 'better' manager out there who could do any different. My point related to double standards.

Mistakes are overlooked from Warnock because he is a high profile manager with a degree of previous success. However, similar mistakes made by Slade and he was ripped apart on here.

Warnock has admitted to not knowing some of the squad when he joined. Ny view is that he, as a professional and experienced manager, should have done some more homework before getting the club to sign up more players and then not use those signings. Fortunately they are on short term contracts and 'cheap' in football terms but its still unnecessary expense and quite disrespectful to Declan and Huws.

I also don't think its right to publically criticise the players. What's said in the dressing room should stay there. Having a public go at Richards, Hoillet and Noone is not a way to build team spirit.

Warnock could just have said that we got caught on the break at Barnsley and this needs addressing. No need to mention that players didn't listen to instructions or single out individuals in the press.

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Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:53 pm

SWilliams wrote:My post seems to have been misunderstood by some. I'm not suggesting that there is currently another 'better' manager out there who could do any different. My point related to double standards.

Mistakes are overlooked from Warnock because he is a high profile manager with a degree of previous success. However, similar mistakes made by Slade and he was ripped apart on here.

Warnock has admitted to not knowing some of the squad when he joined. Ny view is that he, as a professional and experienced manager, should have done some more homework before getting the club to sign up more players and then not use those signings. Fortunately they are on short term contracts and 'cheap' in football terms but its still unnecessary expense and quite disrespectful to Declan and Huws.

I also don't think its right to publically criticise the players. What's said in the dressing room should stay there. Having a public go at Richards, Hoillet and Noone is not a way to build team spirit.

Warnock could just have said that we got caught on the break at Barnsley and this needs addressing. No need to mention that players didn't listen to instructions or single out individuals in the press.


Disagree with a lot of what you say but each to his own.I don't suppose many pro footballers wonder whether they deserve their paycheck so its nice to be reminded once in a while.If you can't take a bit of public critisism they your're in the wrong game.Up to now the first thing we do(like every other club) is sack the manager when things go wrong so I don't blame Warnock for having a go at players not playing the way they were asked to.

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:53 pm

Willo Cardiff wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.


What an absolute load of bollocks that is, who exactly is feeling sorry for the players? What lies did Slade or Trollope tell?

Just because someone admits something doesn't make them immune to criticism. We all want things to work out under Warnock and for him to take us forward, doesn't mean we all have to live with our tongue firmly in his anus.

Any other manager out there that'll do a better job? Let us know.


Great response :laughing5:

Where have I said that I think there is someone out there that'll do a better job than Warnock exactly?

Even if I thought it, I wouldn't say it, not yet anyway as he hasn't had a fair crack of the whip, does that mean I can't criticize him if he does something I don't think is right? does it f**k.

:thumbup:

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:54 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.


What an absolute load of bollocks that is, who exactly is feeling sorry for the players? What lies did Slade or Trollope tell?

Just because someone admits something doesn't make them immune to criticism. We all want things to work out under Warnock and for him to take us forward, doesn't mean we all have to live with our tongue firmly in his anus.


I agree RV Casual.
BrightBlueFuture - Who is actually 'trying to lynch Warnock'?
There's been a couple of pretty valid points about this situation and I don't see or here anybody wanting to lynch the guy.
Maybe he's made a couple of minor mistakes but I and virtually everybody on here seems to have trust in him, doesn't mean he's immune to criticism though.


Thank You mate, It's a shame that some others take it so badly, I feel like I shot Father Christmas ffs :lol:

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:40 pm

RV Casual wrote:
Willo Cardiff wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.


What an absolute load of bollocks that is, who exactly is feeling sorry for the players? What lies did Slade or Trollope tell?

Just because someone admits something doesn't make them immune to criticism. We all want things to work out under Warnock and for him to take us forward, doesn't mean we all have to live with our tongue firmly in his anus.

Any other manager out there that'll do a better job? Let us know.


Great response :laughing5:

Where have I said that I think there is someone out there that'll do a better job than Warnock exactly?

Even if I thought it, I wouldn't say it, not yet anyway as he hasn't had a fair crack of the whip, does that mean I can't criticize him if he does something I don't think is right? does it f**k.

:thumbup:
:occasion5:

Re: Lucrative offer for City!-TWO PLAYERS TO LEAVE

Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:42 pm

Willo Cardiff wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
Willo Cardiff wrote:
RV Casual wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Wow, talk about people already trying to linch Warnock!

Even if he hadn't recognised John and Huws, who cares now he's come out and been honest about it. Being honest is a superseding strength of a great leader instead of someone who tells half truths. When did Slade ever tell the truth? Trollope? Jesus get a grip, it sounds like the PFA are on here all of this feeling sorry for the players.


What an absolute load of bollocks that is, who exactly is feeling sorry for the players? What lies did Slade or Trollope tell?

Just because someone admits something doesn't make them immune to criticism. We all want things to work out under Warnock and for him to take us forward, doesn't mean we all have to live with our tongue firmly in his anus.

Any other manager out there that'll do a better job? Let us know.


Great response :laughing5:

Where have I said that I think there is someone out there that'll do a better job than Warnock exactly?

Even if I thought it, I wouldn't say it, not yet anyway as he hasn't had a fair crack of the whip, does that mean I can't criticize him if he does something I don't think is right? does it f**k.

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moaning and criticising. This forum would be doomed without it, lighten up it's Christmas