Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:09 pm
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:27 pm
grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,
Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:32 pm
Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:44 pm
eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.
The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.
Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.
Merkel is blind
Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:55 pm
eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.
The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.
Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.
Merkel is blind
Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:01 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.
The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.
Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.
Merkel is blind
I agree. We are not a multi cultural society, we are a country with different cultures living independently of one another. There is not a vast amount of integration going on, and a lot of people arriving here from overseas do not want to be part of the British culture, and have no intentions of integrating. Unless we can control who comes into the UK, it will all end in tears.
Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:30 pm
Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:43 pm
wez1927 wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.
The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.
Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.
Merkel is blind
I agree. We are not a multi cultural society, we are a country with different cultures living independently of one another. There is not a vast amount of integration going on, and a lot of people arriving here from overseas do not want to be part of the British culture, and have no intentions of integrating. Unless we can control who comes into the UK, it will all end in tears.
Good post
Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:33 pm
wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,
Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands
Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:18 am
llangainbluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,
Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands
Merkel belongs to the CDU. That's not a left wing party. German capitalism needs cheap labour for their factories, etc. They have had Turkish 'guest workers' for decades. Germany's birth rate is very low, hence the need for more immigrants. Follow the money!
Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:39 am
wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,
Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands
Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:18 am
wez1927 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,
Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands
Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:27 am
Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:17 am
welshrarebit wrote:As a disclaimer I'm right of centre and I also voted to leave the EU. But fundamentally I think immigration is a good thing. However. It must be managed (I deliberately used that word). Firstly we have a socialised system for health care and education. Consequently budgets are set historically on tax take etc. It simply can not react to major changes in demand quickly. If for example we had private GP's the arrival of 1000 new people in an area would be good as it is 1000 new fee payers which would result in prompt appointment of new staff. That can't happen at the moment and it leads to some of the problems we have.
We MUST know who is coming and going. It's ludicrous to think otherwise. National and domestic security. Tax payers. Service planning. Housing. The list goes on.
We must also have the right to reject certain people such as law breakers both of our own and thei home
Countries. Why do we want violent criminals coming? We have enough home grown ones.
There is the obvious issue of forcing down wages which was capitalised on by certain political parties. I'd argue it isn't just low skilled workers but that is another discussion in itself.
That said. Immigration brings some wonderful people here. We are a wonderful country for welcoming people. My issue with the EU was it never gave us the right to be selective with people that happened to be born within the EU. This means convicted rapists from the continent have a legal right to be here but a first language English speaking doctor from Kenya for example is not allowed to stay.
Now I believe it is dangerous to blame this disgusting attack in Berlin on anyone until the authorities manage to capture the persons responsible. Indeed very often similar atrocities have been carried out by "home grown" people. However in principal it is very short sighted to have a completely open door. This is ripe for abuse. Maybe not now. Maybe not needy week. But maybe next year. The year after. If someone part of a sleeper cell sneaks in to Germany under the radar, how long until they are allowed full citizenship and thus freedom of movement? Those seeking to do harm can be very patient it seems.
It is not racist to want to know who is coming to your country. We expect to go through appropriate visa and immigration channels when we travel, particularly outside the EU.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:41 am
Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:46 am
Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:40 am
Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:24 am
Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:47 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.
Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:05 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.
Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:26 pm
Fergy1927 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.
Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.
They are a right wing party. Factcheck.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:12 pm
petesmeat wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.
Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.
The left didn't go into Syria and bomb the f**k out of it. What are you going to do? Millions of kids are dying, and hundreds of kids are dying, trying to come in? Just say tough and let them die, and then watch them die when they're trying to come over. It was a humanitarian crisis, show some humility. We're all immigrants in most likelihood anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Annis' dad born in Egypt? I suppose we should send him back too? Of course not. Farage isn't an English name either, his ancestor was French.
They didn't know this would happen, and also the terrorist could have come in at any time. If you really want to kill Westerners, it isn't that hard. I don't hear you crowing about the left when Jo Cox was stabbed by some white fundamentalist terrorist? Immigration is good for the economy and the people, sure there are bad apples but that's the same in any walk of life. 99.9% people are good, honest and hard working, it's a shame 0.1% are absolute cunts.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:51 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:I have a lot of good friends in Germany a great country and great people.
To try and say they deserve no sympathy because of a decision by politicians to have an open door policy is frankly pathetic.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:56 pm
AV3 wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:I have a lot of good friends in Germany a great country and great people.
To try and say they deserve no sympathy because of a decision by politicians to have an open door policy is frankly pathetic.
I'm with you there mate. I find the Germans far more like ourselves than any other nation. The whole "open borders" thing has been horrifically abused and is now completely out of control. I cry when I look at the muslim ghettos that have been created across Europe. These grants of asylum should have been temporary, never permanent.
Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:12 am
Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:04 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.
The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.
Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.
Merkel is blind
I agree. We are not a multi cultural society, we are a country with different cultures living independently of one another. There is not a vast amount of integration going on, and a lot of people arriving here from overseas do not want to be part of the British culture, and have no intentions of integrating. Unless we can control who comes into the UK, it will all end in tears.
Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:40 pm
Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:40 pm
Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:33 pm
Hofmeister wrote:What a lot of bollix...
We took a million refugees last year and still we only got 5% Muslims within our population. Stop reading the Express or other right-wing fairytale tellers, reality looks differently here in Germany. We got the toughest immigration laws within the EU, and that was even before the Berlin attack...