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Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:09 pm

Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:27 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,

Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:32 pm

I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.

The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.

Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.

Merkel is blind

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:44 pm

eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.

The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.

Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.

Merkel is blind

Good post from a leftie :lol:

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:55 pm

eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.

The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.

Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.

Merkel is blind

I agree. We are not a multi cultural society, we are a country with different cultures living independently of one another. There is not a vast amount of integration going on, and a lot of people arriving here from overseas do not want to be part of the British culture, and have no intentions of integrating. Unless we can control who comes into the UK, it will all end in tears.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:01 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.

The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.

Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.

Merkel is blind

I agree. We are not a multi cultural society, we are a country with different cultures living independently of one another. There is not a vast amount of integration going on, and a lot of people arriving here from overseas do not want to be part of the British culture, and have no intentions of integrating. Unless we can control who comes into the UK, it will all end in tears.

Good post

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:30 pm

I agree Germany is now a country full of jihadis! But it does'nt stop there, the whole of Europe now has thousands of them as does the UK.

Europe has been destabilised by mad foolish policies.

Together, we need a mass repatriation plan, otherwise the whole continent will deteriorate into chaos, violence and eventual civil war.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:43 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.

The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.

Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.

Merkel is blind

I agree. We are not a multi cultural society, we are a country with different cultures living independently of one another. There is not a vast amount of integration going on, and a lot of people arriving here from overseas do not want to be part of the British culture, and have no intentions of integrating. Unless we can control who comes into the UK, it will all end in tears.

Good post



I second that,as it really is the truth.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:33 pm

wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,

Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands


Merkel belongs to the CDU. That's not a left wing party. German capitalism needs cheap labour for their factories, etc. They have had Turkish 'guest workers' for decades. Germany's birth rate is very low, hence the need for more immigrants. Follow the money!

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:18 am

llangainbluebird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,

Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands


Merkel belongs to the CDU. That's not a left wing party. German capitalism needs cheap labour for their factories, etc. They have had Turkish 'guest workers' for decades. Germany's birth rate is very low, hence the need for more immigrants. Follow the money!


Correct they need immigrants but they need to close the boarders and pick and chose who comes in, not allow people from safe countries like Morocco and then give them asylum just to be humanitarian.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:39 am

wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,

Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands

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Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:18 am

wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:Before you go and put a German flag up ,,, remember , this is a country that wanted free movement and open borders ,, because it's good for us ,,, this is the outcome of free movement ,, a country full of jihadis, ,,, Merkel has blood on her hands ,,

Totally agree the left wing idiots have blood on there hands


They are a right wing party.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:27 am

As a disclaimer I'm right of centre and I also voted to leave the EU. But fundamentally I think immigration is a good thing. However. It must be managed (I deliberately used that word). Firstly we have a socialised system for health care and education. Consequently budgets are set historically on tax take etc. It simply can not react to major changes in demand quickly. If for example we had private GP's the arrival of 1000 new people in an area would be good as it is 1000 new fee payers which would result in prompt appointment of new staff. That can't happen at the moment and it leads to some of the problems we have.

We MUST know who is coming and going. It's ludicrous to think otherwise. National and domestic security. Tax payers. Service planning. Housing. The list goes on.
We must also have the right to reject certain people such as law breakers both of our own and thei home
Countries. Why do we want violent criminals coming? We have enough home grown ones.

There is the obvious issue of forcing down wages which was capitalised on by certain political parties. I'd argue it isn't just low skilled workers but that is another discussion in itself.

That said. Immigration brings some wonderful people here. We are a wonderful country for welcoming people. My issue with the EU was it never gave us the right to be selective with people that happened to be born within the EU. This means convicted rapists from the continent have a legal right to be here but a first language English speaking doctor from Kenya for example is not allowed to stay.

Now I believe it is dangerous to blame this disgusting attack in Berlin on anyone until the authorities manage to capture the persons responsible. Indeed very often similar atrocities have been carried out by "home grown" people. However in principal it is very short sighted to have a completely open door. This is ripe for abuse. Maybe not now. Maybe not needy week. But maybe next year. The year after. If someone part of a sleeper cell sneaks in to Germany under the radar, how long until they are allowed full citizenship and thus freedom of movement? Those seeking to do harm can be very patient it seems.

It is not racist to want to know who is coming to your country. We expect to go through appropriate visa and immigration channels when we travel, particularly outside the EU.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:17 am

welshrarebit wrote:As a disclaimer I'm right of centre and I also voted to leave the EU. But fundamentally I think immigration is a good thing. However. It must be managed (I deliberately used that word). Firstly we have a socialised system for health care and education. Consequently budgets are set historically on tax take etc. It simply can not react to major changes in demand quickly. If for example we had private GP's the arrival of 1000 new people in an area would be good as it is 1000 new fee payers which would result in prompt appointment of new staff. That can't happen at the moment and it leads to some of the problems we have.

We MUST know who is coming and going. It's ludicrous to think otherwise. National and domestic security. Tax payers. Service planning. Housing. The list goes on.
We must also have the right to reject certain people such as law breakers both of our own and thei home
Countries. Why do we want violent criminals coming? We have enough home grown ones.

There is the obvious issue of forcing down wages which was capitalised on by certain political parties. I'd argue it isn't just low skilled workers but that is another discussion in itself.

That said. Immigration brings some wonderful people here. We are a wonderful country for welcoming people. My issue with the EU was it never gave us the right to be selective with people that happened to be born within the EU. This means convicted rapists from the continent have a legal right to be here but a first language English speaking doctor from Kenya for example is not allowed to stay.

Now I believe it is dangerous to blame this disgusting attack in Berlin on anyone until the authorities manage to capture the persons responsible. Indeed very often similar atrocities have been carried out by "home grown" people. However in principal it is very short sighted to have a completely open door. This is ripe for abuse. Maybe not now. Maybe not needy week. But maybe next year. The year after. If someone part of a sleeper cell sneaks in to Germany under the radar, how long until they are allowed full citizenship and thus freedom of movement? Those seeking to do harm can be very patient it seems.

It is not racist to want to know who is coming to your country. We expect to go through appropriate visa and immigration channels when we travel, particularly outside the EU.


This is the best post I have read for a long long time and I think you should send this to the clowns in The Assembly. :thumbup:

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:41 am

I have a lot of good friends in Germany a great country and great people.

To try and say they deserve no sympathy because of a decision by politicians to have an open door policy is frankly pathetic.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:46 am

Why is the displaying of a German flag being so politicised in this scenario.

Surely the actions taken that got Germany to this place and caused such a horrific act is not linked to a show of solidarity to those whose lives were taken.

Let's not have this boards continued double standards prevail here.

Remember how angry we were towards FIFA as they tried to say that the Poppy was a political statement?

Just like the Poppy was a sign of remembrance so is the German flag for this short period of time while their families grieve.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:40 am

Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.

Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:24 am

Schengen is a complete clusterfu,ck. Roll on Brexit

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:47 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.

Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.


The left didn't go into Syria and bomb the f**k out of it. What are you going to do? Millions of kids are dying, and hundreds of kids are dying, trying to come in? Just say tough and let them die, and then watch them die when they're trying to come over. It was a humanitarian crisis, show some humility. We're all immigrants in most likelihood anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Annis' dad born in Egypt? I suppose we should send him back too? Of course not. Farage isn't an English name either, his ancestor was French.

They didn't know this would happen, and also the terrorist could have come in at any time. If you really want to kill Westerners, it isn't that hard. I don't hear you crowing about the left when Jo Cox was stabbed by some white fundamentalist terrorist? Immigration is good for the economy and the people, sure there are bad apples but that's the same in any walk of life. 99.9% people are good, honest and hard working, it's a shame 0.1% are absolute cunts.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:05 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.

Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.


They are a right wing party. Factcheck.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:26 pm

Fergy1927 wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.

Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.


They are a right wing party. Factcheck.




Facts not required on political threads like these.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:12 pm

petesmeat wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Merkel and C. will have discussed all possibilities, and would have known that Germans would be killed as a result of mass migration.

Thats how rabid the degenerate left is.


The left didn't go into Syria and bomb the f**k out of it. What are you going to do? Millions of kids are dying, and hundreds of kids are dying, trying to come in? Just say tough and let them die, and then watch them die when they're trying to come over. It was a humanitarian crisis, show some humility. We're all immigrants in most likelihood anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Annis' dad born in Egypt? I suppose we should send him back too? Of course not. Farage isn't an English name either, his ancestor was French.

They didn't know this would happen, and also the terrorist could have come in at any time. If you really want to kill Westerners, it isn't that hard. I don't hear you crowing about the left when Jo Cox was stabbed by some white fundamentalist terrorist? Immigration is good for the economy and the people, sure there are bad apples but that's the same in any walk of life. 99.9% people are good, honest and hard working, it's a shame 0.1% are absolute cunts.

Labour are the left and let's be honest,Iraq Afghanistan,Libya getting involved in other people's wars but not looking after our own citizens all in the name of so called democracy should of stayed out of it all

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:51 pm

WelshPatriot wrote:I have a lot of good friends in Germany a great country and great people.

To try and say they deserve no sympathy because of a decision by politicians to have an open door policy is frankly pathetic.

I'm with you there mate. I find the Germans far more like ourselves than any other nation. The whole "open borders" thing has been horrifically abused and is now completely out of control. I cry when I look at the muslim ghettos that have been created across Europe. These grants of asylum should have been temporary, never permanent.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:56 pm

AV3 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:I have a lot of good friends in Germany a great country and great people.

To try and say they deserve no sympathy because of a decision by politicians to have an open door policy is frankly pathetic.

I'm with you there mate. I find the Germans far more like ourselves than any other nation. The whole "open borders" thing has been horrifically abused and is now completely out of control. I cry when I look at the muslim ghettos that have been created across Europe. These grants of asylum should have been temporary, never permanent.


Spot on :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:12 am

They didn't know this would happen, and also the terrorist could have come in at any time. If you really want to kill Westerners, it isn't that hard. I don't hear you crowing about the left when Jo Cox was stabbed by some white fundamentalist terrorist? Immigration is good for the economy and the people, sure there are bad apples but that's the same in any walk of life. 99.9% people are good, honest and hard working, it's a shame 0.1% are absolute cunts.[/quote]

Cheers for putting me right mate..

So all that remains is for Merkel to attend a few funerals, and explain that the murderer was a 'bit of a bad apple, but overall, its a price worth paying because of the economy'....

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:04 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
eddiep wrote:I am left of centre without doubt however I fully agree on reducing immigration particularly from countries and religions which are not in tune with our ways, democracy and culture.

The 'lefties' have got it wrong because immigration with alien cultures only breads ghettos and separate communities. Not the melting pot of multi culture that is hoped for.

Most countries have a fake multi culture. Scrape the surface and its gang living by wealth, culture, religion, sexuality, colour.

Merkel is blind

I agree. We are not a multi cultural society, we are a country with different cultures living independently of one another. There is not a vast amount of integration going on, and a lot of people arriving here from overseas do not want to be part of the British culture, and have no intentions of integrating. Unless we can control who comes into the UK, it will all end in tears.

Spot on.. :ayatollah:

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:40 pm

Now would be a time to put a ban on citizens of Muslim majority countries entering the UK. Let's f**k off pakistani, Somali and Afghan migrants! Why not fetch in Jamaican, Chinese and Indians instead? People who can actually integrate.

Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:40 pm

What a lot of bollix...

We took a million refugees last year and still we only got 5% Muslims within our population. Stop reading the Express or other right-wing fairytale tellers, reality looks differently here in Germany. We got the toughest immigration laws within the EU, and that was even before the Berlin attack...
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Re: Before you go and put a German flag up

Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:33 pm

Hofmeister wrote:What a lot of bollix...

We took a million refugees last year and still we only got 5% Muslims within our population. Stop reading the Express or other right-wing fairytale tellers, reality looks differently here in Germany. We got the toughest immigration laws within the EU, and that was even before the Berlin attack...


welcome to the views of right wing Britain mate - horrible isn't it...