" WHERE IT ALL WENT WRONG? "

" WHERE IT ALL WENT WRONG? "


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Week in week out all we ever do nowadays is talk about how bad our defence is,its a shambles,leaking goals,sloppy goals,defence errors and even new Manager Neil Warnock after 12 games in charge is fed up of our defence.

So was it good or bad business by CCFC? and Where Do we go from here?

Cardiff pushed and pushed David Marshall out,put him in the public eye and even some fans were backing Cardiff's committe saying what good business it was to sell Marshall? ? ?


So David Marshall was sold to Hull City for £2.5mill upfront,plus £2.5mill if he makes 25 Premier League Appearances and Hull City must stay up. Remember City said they wanted £10mill,but we had never ever actually had a proper bid till Hull put one in.

For me even if we get £5mill for him,which does not look likely,we have lost the backbone of Cardiff City and lost many valuable Championship points which is costing us big time and in money.

For me this is where it really went wrong for Cardiff City on the field,the sale of David Marshall.

We even sold a fairly good keeper in Simon Moore? ?

So No, it was not good business by Cardiff City and once again they've messed up in the transfer market, will they ever learn? ?

We have Neil Warnock now,who has been given limited funs for January,Warnock has beentold he has to get rid of Bruno Manga,plus many other City players and has so much to do.
Thankfully Warnock has a lot of experience and this coming January I have faith in him.

Warnock has two years at Cardiff City,I really hope he stays that long.

Warnock has been given Ben Amos as our number one on high wages and conceded more goals than any other goalie in the Championship last season for Bolton.
We have Amos on loan from Bolton and Bolton fans who don't want him back,they said he makes errors after errors and cost them big time last season.

Ben Amos had some experience and started well, but was coming off the back of a debilitating season with struggling Bolton and his confidence looks to have been affected by a couple of errors.

Cardiff need an imposing figure and a strong voice to a defence that can be too quiet and passive,to find that kind of goalie will cost money.


Yet experience is needed between the goalposts. Cardiff said they had restocked the goalkeeping department well but the three goalkeepers left were lacking serious exposure to the Championship,for me that was dreadful decisions by our transfer committee.

We are already being linked with other goalies,surely this will be no good for Ben Amos's confidence.

SO DO WE STAY WITH BEN AMOS?


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A Dejected Ben Amos

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And I have not forgot we need a proven striker and Aron Gunnarsson as Captain

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Chris, the club made out there was a prob when ever it came to selling a player etc etc
We got Rickie Lambert and Ben Amos wages, both as high or even higher than David Marshalls.
We got Neil Warnocks four new players on high wages.

Yet now the club say we have to sell Bruno Manga because of his wages? ?

It was Aron Gunnarsson not long ago?

Lets really be honest for years now,we have been disastrous in the transfer market,the blame every manager etc,but never accept all this comes from the Top.

From Facebook

Malcolm Tawton

To sell marshall and moore was appaling decision ive never heard of a club sell both keepers at the same time the club is run poorly its there own fault

From Facebook

David Hunter

Simon Moore was much better than Amos and now everyone can see how many points and matches David Marshall made and saved for us !!! Although he deserved his chance in the prem can't help but think how our position would have been if he'd stayed under Warnock

If City had any sense, they'd bid for Ipswich's out of favour GK Dean Gerken, great commanding GK and very good shot stopper.

The biggest mistake since the sale of Toshack

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Chris, the club made out there was a prob when ever it came to selling a player etc etc
We got Rickie Lambert and Ben Amos wages, both as high or even higher than David Marshalls.
We got Neil Warnocks four new players on high wages.

Yet now the club say we have to sell Bruno Manga because of his wages? ?

It was Aron Gunnarsson not long ago?

Lets really be honest for years now,we have been disastrous in the transfer market,the blame every manager etc,but never accept all this comes from the Top.

Can't argue with that, Annis. City have been atrocious for several years and the blame has to lie at the top (as in any organisation)

Hopefully, with a real manager in place, they will listen to him and all that will now end

Overall our squad is stronger this season than it was last season apart from the obvious in goals.

For me we are seriously underachieving, that boils down to the start made under Trollope and a few bad results under Warnock.


Where did it all go wrong? Ultimately pre season and the appointnent of Trollope.

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Chris, the club made out there was a prob when ever it came to selling a player etc etc
We got Rickie Lambert and Ben Amos wages, both as high or even higher than David Marshalls.
We got Neil Warnocks four new players on high wages.

Yet now the club say we have to sell Bruno Manga because of his wages? ?

It was Aron Gunnarsson not long ago?

Lets really be honest for years now,we have been disastrous in the transfer market,the blame every manager etc,but never accept all this comes from the Top.

Annis the men at the top their mistake was excepting the advice of the last 4/5 managers regarding the players they bought in that is poor management on their part ! The crap players are down to the managers poor judgement after all we've needed speed and a good striker all failed to address this problem! Despite spending millions?

From Twitter

Bolton fan
Anthony rearden ‏@antrearden
@AnnisAbraham you've signed him till the end of season at least ...we won't be taking early returns

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Chris, the club made out there was a prob when ever it came to selling a player etc etc
We got Rickie Lambert and Ben Amos wages, both as high or even higher than David Marshalls.
We got Neil Warnocks four new players on high wages.

Yet now the club say we have to sell Bruno Manga because of his wages? ?

It was Aron Gunnarsson not long ago?

Lets really be honest for years now,we have been disastrous in the transfer market,the blame every manager etc,but never accept all this comes from the Top.

Annis the men at the top their mistake was excepting the advice of the last 4/5 managers regarding the players they bought in that is poor management on their part ! The crap players are down to the managers poor judgement after all we've needed speed and a good striker all failed to address this problem! Despite spending millions?

Allan, the men at the top were without doubt in total control of Slade and Trollope and the buck stops at the top in any form of life and especially a business which is how they say they are running Cardiff City.

If you keeping blaming manager after manager after manager, that sounds a bit far fetched.

I won't go in to every detail once again,but the facts don't lie about our transfers over the last 7 years,virtually a disaster.


Thankfully we now have Neil Warnock,who I believe won't let the committre get involved in choosing players etc

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Chris, the club made out there was a prob when ever it came to selling a player etc etc
We got Rickie Lambert and Ben Amos wages, both as high or even higher than David Marshalls.
We got Neil Warnocks four new players on high wages.

Yet now the club say we have to sell Bruno Manga because of his wages? ?

It was Aron Gunnarsson not long ago?

Lets really be honest for years now,we have been disastrous in the transfer market,the blame every manager etc,but never accept all this comes from the Top.

Annis the men at the top their mistake was excepting the advice of the last 4/5 managers regarding the players they bought in that is poor management on their part ! The crap players are down to the managers poor judgement after all we've needed speed and a good striker all failed to address this problem! Despite spending millions?

Allan, the men at the top were without doubt in total control of Slade and Trollope and the buck stops at the top in any form of life and especially a business which is how they say they are running Cardiff City.

If you keeping blaming manager after manager after manager, that sounds a bit far fetched.

I won't go in to every detail once again,but the facts don't lie about our transfers over the last 7 years,virtually a disaster.


Thankfully we now have Neil Warnock,who I believe won't let the committre get involved in choosing players etc

If the club have had four or five consecutive managers who have all signed a lot of duff players, it does'nt reflect well on those at the top who appointed them in the first place.

Overall our squad is stronger this season than it was last season apart from the obvious in goals.

For me we are seriously underachieving, that boils down to the start made under Trollope and a few bad results under Warnock.


Where did it all go wrong? Ultimately pre season and the appointnent of Trollope.

our squad is costing a fortune in wages, i would imagine far more than half the teams in the top 6 {we have parachute payments they dont} not sure if this means they are under achieving or a case of paying over the odds for mediocrity.

where it all went wrong though? i agree appointmenting Trollope { i dont think one single fan given any choice would have appointed him, im not sure that he would appoint himself he seemed so uncertain}

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Chris, the club made out there was a prob when ever it came to selling a player etc etc
We got Rickie Lambert and Ben Amos wages, both as high or even higher than David Marshalls.
We got Neil Warnocks four new players on high wages.

Yet now the club say we have to sell Bruno Manga because of his wages? ?

It was Aron Gunnarsson not long ago?

Lets really be honest for years now,we have been disastrous in the transfer market,the blame every manager etc,but never accept all this comes from the Top.

Annis the men at the top their mistake was excepting the advice of the last 4/5 managers regarding the players they bought in that is poor management on their part ! The crap players are down to the managers poor judgement after all we've needed speed and a good striker all failed to address this problem! Despite spending millions?

Allan, the men at the top were without doubt in total control of Slade and Trollope and the buck stops at the top in any form of life and especially a business which is how they say they are running Cardiff City.

If you keeping blaming manager after manager after manager, that sounds a bit far fetched.

I won't go in to every detail once again,but the facts don't lie about our transfers over the last 7 years,virtually a disaster.


Thankfully we now have Neil Warnock,who I believe won't let the committre get involved in choosing players etc

If the club have had four or five consecutive managers who have all signed a lot of duff players, it does'nt reflect well on those at the top who appointed them in the first place.

Exactly my point Steve

Top class keepers are not easy to come by, and those who thought it was good business selling Marshall have probably never played football themselves. A good keeper is as important as a quality goalscorer. It's suprising how much confidence a decent keeper can give a side, and knowing you have a good shot stopper behind you to clear up if your defence has been beaten gives a boost to the entire team. A dodgy keeper affects everyone on the pitch when you know that as a team you can play brilliantly and get a few goals, but it's always in your mind that just three or four attacks from the opposition are probably going to end up in the back of your net.
Marshall had his faults, but he was mostly reliable, and I think we would have a few extra points in the bag if he was with us this season. If we were to miss out on remaining in this division by a couple of points, it would be interesting to see if people still thought that was a good bit of business by the club.

Steve, Spot on,Top class keepers are very hard to come by and I was once again on here by the usual suspects told it was good business etc.

With a quality keeper,you know you will get a good solid defence,of course Marshall had his faults,but over all he was happy with playing for Cardiff and we certainly were happy with him.

Bolton fans were relieved when they offloaded Ben Amos,costly on and off the pitch.

The club let it out that Marshall's wages were an issue and it made 'business sense' given the FFP Rules issue

However, by the time he left, the FFP issue was over for the time being at least (yes, we know the 'threat' is still there) and one of the big issues was we didn't have a manager who would/could stand up to the Board/Owner

If Neil Warnock had been manager from the start of the season, I believe Marshall (who didn't ask to leave) would still be our No.1 and we would be several points further up the table

Chris, the club made out there was a prob when ever it came to selling a player etc etc
We got Rickie Lambert and Ben Amos wages, both as high or even higher than David Marshalls.
We got Neil Warnocks four new players on high wages.

Yet now the club say we have to sell Bruno Manga because of his wages? ?

It was Aron Gunnarsson not long ago?

Lets really be honest for years now,we have been disastrous in the transfer market,the blame every manager etc,but never accept all this comes from the Top.

Annis the men at the top their mistake was excepting the advice of the last 4/5 managers regarding the players they bought in that is poor management on their part ! The crap players are down to the managers poor judgement after all we've needed speed and a good striker all failed to address this problem! Despite spending millions?

Allan, the men at the top were without doubt in total control of Slade and Trollope and the buck stops at the top in any form of life and especially a business which is how they say they are running Cardiff City.

If you keeping blaming manager after manager after manager, that sounds a bit far fetched.

I won't go in to every detail once again,but the facts don't lie about our transfers over the last 7 years,virtually a disaster.


Thankfully we now have Neil Warnock,who I believe won't let the committre get involved in choosing players etc

Right get it now! Its The boards fault for giving the managers money for players, and boards fault for allowing managers to choose the players they wanted? But its the managers fault for crap football played as they coached them ? Well they've got to have some blame attached to them don't they? Or were they just lemmings sitting in dug out with hands folded!

Neil Warnock is to blame playing a centre half at RB and a RB at LB

Marshall back. In January. I would hope. Most important position on the pitch. As we have seen.

Marshall back. In January. I would hope. Most important position on the pitch. As we have seen.

No thanks we need to move on - Marshy wasn't all that in his first couple of seasons. Easy to forget his howlers but I'm sorry he had enough, and NEVER came for crosses...

And I can't agree with yet another post slagging the club off again...