Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:14 pm
Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:40 pm
Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:43 pm
Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:48 pm
Forever Blue wrote:STATS: Peter Whittingham against Barnsley today
8 chances created
100% tackles won
2 interceptions
1 goal
1 assist
Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:58 pm
Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:03 pm
Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:13 pm
castleblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:STATS: Peter Whittingham against Barnsley today
8 chances created
100% tackles won
2 interceptions
1 goal
1 assist
Could have been 5 assists today with the quality of the crosses he was putting in. That shot on the half volley the keeper saved was fantastic technique and he also made a great covering tackle in the 2nd half when it seemed certain Barnsley would score.
Whitts tackling ability has been missed by some who post on this board, some even describe it as "inept".
Great game today from Whitts and he didn't deserve to be on the losing team.
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Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:27 pm
Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:48 pm
polo wrote:And yet some mug marked him 4 on Mikes forum
Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:33 am
Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:52 am
jon1959 wrote:He was good today but still so slow on the ball and robbed in possession a good few times. Also caught out when he was slow making decisions (which may be partly down to his options at the time).
Against that his set piece deliveries were excellent, he scored, and most of his passes were good (except for that nonsense with Kadeem towards the end that wasted a set piece and a few major misunderstandings with Peltier).
I would give him a 6 or 7. No one else in the squad can do what he does, and game on game he is getting better at talking, tracking back and tackling. He will never have pace - but if he did he would be in a different league.
Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:55 am
mugsy wrote:jon1959 wrote:He was good today but still so slow on the ball and robbed in possession a good few times. Also caught out when he was slow making decisions (which may be partly down to his options at the time).
Against that his set piece deliveries were excellent, he scored, and most of his passes were good (except for that nonsense with Kadeem towards the end that wasted a set piece and a few major misunderstandings with Peltier).
I would give him a 6 or 7. No one else in the squad can do what he does, and game on game he is getting better at talking, tracking back and tackling. He will never have pace - but if he did he would be in a different league.
Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:38 am
Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:03 pm
Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:10 pm
Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:20 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Have to agree with you Wez but actually finding this player is going to be the problem.
I'd play him wide right in front of Peltier (solid defender who rarely crosses half way so it would mean PW wouldn't be racing up and down flanks too much but could make the extra man in midfield).
A Kavanagh type player (with legs) to partner Gunnar in the middle and Hoilett on left. If only it was that simple eh.
Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:26 pm
wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:11 am
Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:13 am
polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:25 am
wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:11 am
polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Yes lets give up looking for perfect players who have the lot as they rarely exist in football let alone in the Championship.
Paul Scholes is one of the best footballers this country has ever seen but he couldnt tackle and had no pace. Did United fans moan about that? No because they had other players in the team to do the things you apparently want Whitts to do as well as do the good things that he does.
If players are playing in the Championship its because they have flaws in their game. If we brought O Keefe in for Whitts would he give us more energy and win more tackles? Yes of course he would but can he pass like Whitts? Deliver a ball like Whitts? Would he have scored that goal on Saturday? Errrr NO he wouldnt have. Absolutely not.
Why City fans would rather concentrate on the negatives of a player rather than what he brings to the team I dont know. Whitts is doing his job in the team its others who are not doing theirs.
Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:30 am
wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Yes lets give up looking for perfect players who have the lot as they rarely exist in football let alone in the Championship.
Paul Scholes is one of the best footballers this country has ever seen but he couldnt tackle and had no pace. Did United fans moan about that? No because they had other players in the team to do the things you apparently want Whitts to do as well as do the good things that he does.
If players are playing in the Championship its because they have flaws in their game. If we brought O Keefe in for Whitts would he give us more energy and win more tackles? Yes of course he would but can he pass like Whitts? Deliver a ball like Whitts? Would he have scored that goal on Saturday? Errrr NO he wouldnt have. Absolutely not.
Why City fans would rather concentrate on the negatives of a player rather than what he brings to the team I dont know. Whitts is doing his job in the team its others who are not doing theirs.
Your not comparing Paul Scholes to Whits?is it worth conceding goals all the for the sake of a corner delivery surely there are players out there who can run and take a corner
Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:50 am
polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Yes lets give up looking for perfect players who have the lot as they rarely exist in football let alone in the Championship.
Paul Scholes is one of the best footballers this country has ever seen but he couldnt tackle and had no pace. Did United fans moan about that? No because they had other players in the team to do the things you apparently want Whitts to do as well as do the good things that he does.
If players are playing in the Championship its because they have flaws in their game. If we brought O Keefe in for Whitts would he give us more energy and win more tackles? Yes of course he would but can he pass like Whitts? Deliver a ball like Whitts? Would he have scored that goal on Saturday? Errrr NO he wouldnt have. Absolutely not.
Why City fans would rather concentrate on the negatives of a player rather than what he brings to the team I dont know. Whitts is doing his job in the team its others who are not doing theirs.
Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:07 am
Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:45 am
polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Yes lets give up looking for perfect players who have the lot as they rarely exist in football let alone in the Championship.
Paul Scholes is one of the best footballers this country has ever seen but he couldnt tackle and had no pace. Did United fans moan about that? No because they had other players in the team to do the things you apparently want Whitts to do as well as do the good things that he does.
If players are playing in the Championship its because they have flaws in their game. If we brought O Keefe in for Whitts would he give us more energy and win more tackles? Yes of course he would but can he pass like Whitts? Deliver a ball like Whitts? Would he have scored that goal on Saturday? Errrr NO he wouldnt have. Absolutely not.
Why City fans would rather concentrate on the negatives of a player rather than what he brings to the team I dont know. Whitts is doing his job in the team its others who are not doing theirs.
Your not comparing Paul Scholes to Whits?is it worth conceding goals all the for the sake of a corner delivery surely there are players out there who can run and take a corner
Dear oh dear. The old "Anyone can take a corner" nonsense argument.
Alex Ferguson once said Charlie Adam was worth 10m for his corner kicks alone.
2 of the goals conceded on Saturday were from people not doing their jobs when Whitts was taking a corner ffs. How was he to blame?
Wez have you ever played football or did you just get into football for the trouble?
And no im not comparing Scholes to Whittingham my argument is he had flaws in his game but United fans didnt moan like f**k about them they choose to appreciate the good things he could do.
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:47 pm
Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:57 pm
Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:02 pm
wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Yes lets give up looking for perfect players who have the lot as they rarely exist in football let alone in the Championship.
Paul Scholes is one of the best footballers this country has ever seen but he couldnt tackle and had no pace. Did United fans moan about that? No because they had other players in the team to do the things you apparently want Whitts to do as well as do the good things that he does.
If players are playing in the Championship its because they have flaws in their game. If we brought O Keefe in for Whitts would he give us more energy and win more tackles? Yes of course he would but can he pass like Whitts? Deliver a ball like Whitts? Would he have scored that goal on Saturday? Errrr NO he wouldnt have. Absolutely not.
Why City fans would rather concentrate on the negatives of a player rather than what he brings to the team I dont know. Whitts is doing his job in the team its others who are not doing theirs.
Your not comparing Paul Scholes to Whits?is it worth conceding goals all the for the sake of a corner delivery surely there are players out there who can run and take a corner
Dear oh dear. The old "Anyone can take a corner" nonsense argument.
Alex Ferguson once said Charlie Adam was worth 10m for his corner kicks alone.
2 of the goals conceded on Saturday were from people not doing their jobs when Whitts was taking a corner ffs. How was he to blame?
Wez have you ever played football or did you just get into football for the trouble?
And no im not comparing Scholes to Whittingham my argument is he had flaws in his game but United fans didnt moan like f**k about them they choose to appreciate the good things he could do.
It obviously to see that whitts legs have gone and we conceded far to many goals this season coz our midfield is being over run by younger quicker players like I said we need to find the new Whitts and upgrade him
Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:20 pm
nubbsy wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Yes lets give up looking for perfect players who have the lot as they rarely exist in football let alone in the Championship.
Paul Scholes is one of the best footballers this country has ever seen but he couldnt tackle and had no pace. Did United fans moan about that? No because they had other players in the team to do the things you apparently want Whitts to do as well as do the good things that he does.
If players are playing in the Championship its because they have flaws in their game. If we brought O Keefe in for Whitts would he give us more energy and win more tackles? Yes of course he would but can he pass like Whitts? Deliver a ball like Whitts? Would he have scored that goal on Saturday? Errrr NO he wouldnt have. Absolutely not.
Why City fans would rather concentrate on the negatives of a player rather than what he brings to the team I dont know. Whitts is doing his job in the team its others who are not doing theirs.
Your not comparing Paul Scholes to Whits?is it worth conceding goals all the for the sake of a corner delivery surely there are players out there who can run and take a corner
Dear oh dear. The old "Anyone can take a corner" nonsense argument.
Alex Ferguson once said Charlie Adam was worth 10m for his corner kicks alone.
2 of the goals conceded on Saturday were from people not doing their jobs when Whitts was taking a corner ffs. How was he to blame?
Wez have you ever played football or did you just get into football for the trouble?
And no im not comparing Scholes to Whittingham my argument is he had flaws in his game but United fans didnt moan like f**k about them they choose to appreciate the good things he could do.
It obviously to see that whitts legs have gone and we conceded far to many goals this season coz our midfield is being over run by younger quicker players like I said we need to find the new Whitts and upgrade him
Wez were you at the game!? Whitts was immense in both defense and attack. If You think there's many players out there that could have put so many of those deliveries on the button as he did then your obviously clueless.
Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:38 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:Not good enough without the ball too slow and us the root of our problems in midfield we need to find the next Whits now a younger mote pacey playmaker![]()
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Whitts technical ability with pace and tackling ability will NOT be appearing for a championship club any time soon.
Perhaps we should have tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool 15 years ago if you're looking for the complete package.
Get real Wez.
Let's give up and not bother to try then ffs
Yes lets give up looking for perfect players who have the lot as they rarely exist in football let alone in the Championship.
Paul Scholes is one of the best footballers this country has ever seen but he couldnt tackle and had no pace. Did United fans moan about that? No because they had other players in the team to do the things you apparently want Whitts to do as well as do the good things that he does.
If players are playing in the Championship its because they have flaws in their game. If we brought O Keefe in for Whitts would he give us more energy and win more tackles? Yes of course he would but can he pass like Whitts? Deliver a ball like Whitts? Would he have scored that goal on Saturday? Errrr NO he wouldnt have. Absolutely not.
Why City fans would rather concentrate on the negatives of a player rather than what he brings to the team I dont know. Whitts is doing his job in the team its others who are not doing theirs.
Much, much to sensible a post for wez to understand. He still thinks we can make the play offs.