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UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’ perm

Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:25 am

MUSLIMS WORLDWIDE
UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’ permission to patrol’




by Raheem Kassam
9 Dec 2016, Breitbart

A British policeman has hit back at the UK political establishment’s trashing of U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump’s comments about policing in the United Kingdom, stating that there are some areas in the country where cops have to ask permission from local Muslim leaders in order to patrols.

Earlier this week, Mr. Trump claimed there are areas of the UK “so radicalised the police are afraid for their lives” – a statement initially mocked by the British Prime Minister, the Mayor of London, and even the supposedly apolitical Metropolitan Police of London.

But Breitbart London soon confirmed with London police that the comments were more or less accurate, with one long-serving policeman saying: “When I was a teenage lad in [B]urnley there were no go white areas. This IS the case still nationally… including London where you have to have extra vigilance in certain parts when you are working”.

Now the Daily Mail has reported that a Lancashire Police officer has said: “There are Muslim areas of Preston that, if we wish to patrol, we have to contact local Muslim community leaders to get their permission”.

Another officer from Yorkshire in the North of England, wrote on an online Police web forum: “I’m not allowed to travel in half blues [uniform] to work anymore IN MY OWN CAR as we’re “All at risk of attack” – yet as soon as someone points out the obvious it’s ‘divisive.’”

He added: “In this instance he [Trump] isn’t wrong. Our political leaders are best either ill-informed or simply being disingenuous.

“He’s pointed out something that is plainly obvious, something which I think we aren’t as a nation willing to own up to – do you think a US Police Department would ban officers from wearing their uniforms under jackets etc due to FEAR of their cops being killed by extremists?

“We implement half measures such as “No-one is allowed to come into work half blues, even in your own cars because if you get beheaded it’ll be your own fault.

“It would be seen as un-American, un-democratic, not the done thing… In the UK though we accept it’.

A female officer added: “Even if one of us did get killed or dragged off in a van. It would just be reported as a ‘one-off incident’ and no reason to change the ‘British style of policing’.”

Another Met officer who resigned this year wrote: “I was a PC in the Met for 11 years – I resigned as I couldn’t handle it anymore.

“Whilst provocative Trump’s comments does carry some weight. PCs are not permitted to even come to work in “half Blues” (just wearing trousers and shirt) for fear of attack whilst going to work. That is a directive from Scotland Yard.

“PCs have come out to find police cars having the brake lines cut and sometimes their own personal cars damaged”.
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Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:48 am

'Breitbart News Network is a right-wing or far-right American news, opinion and commentary website founded in 2007 by conservative commentator and entrepreneur Andrew Breitbart' - and full of made up crap!.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... urfed-wave

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:27 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not a named quote in sight..... I am no leftie liberal, but this is fake news b*llocks

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:42 am

I'm no lover of Islam but I dont take breitbart seriously either.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:46 am

Its as fake as the OP who posted it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:28 pm

Brietbart prints much that is true but ignored by mainstream media, there is a conspiracy of silence about the growing problem of radical Islam in the British media, anyone who can't see a massive problem for us and our future generations really is a complete crackpot.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:24 pm

Jock wrote:Brietbart prints much that is true but ignored by mainstream media, there is a conspiracy of silence about the growing problem of radical Islam in the British media, anyone who can't see a massive problem for us and our future generations really is a complete crackpot.


Hi Jock,

To get the full truth about what's happening in the UK regarding Muslims.etc. then shamefully, one needs to look to media outlets outside of the UK, like Russia Today (RT) Al Jazeera and Breitbart like you mentioned. RT, is good for international news and tells it like it is, but of course when it comes to Russian news then the spin begins, so you have to look past that bit.

I worked overseas for many years and found out a lot about UK no-go areas for whites and police, rape gangs and mini riots that were happening that were not mentioned in the UK news at all.

As for our 'Police Service" they lost the plot years ago when the name changed from the Police Force'. They're like pussies compared to what they used to be 30 years ago. More interested in diversity than real policing!

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:38 pm

I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:20 am

Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:58 am

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry


Have you ever been in a situation when your 'LIFE' is constantly under threat for 4.5 months tours?

Unfortunately mistakes are made in war.

When the adrenaline, fear, excitement, Tiredness, the constant stresses of remaining 'Always Alert' never switch off when out on a foot or mobile patrol in "enemy territory'. Watching forwards, left and right, behind you, watching windows for snipers, and up above, if walking near flats, (for fear of a small fridge been thrown out) expecting a 'contact' at any second. Night and day - months on end.

Just over Two Thousand members of the security forces lost their lives - including 1,400 British soldiers.

You'd understand how things can happen under duress. My patrol in one incident, could have easily shot several young lads aged around 17/18. Shots were heard, we were QRF (Quick Reaction Force) and were on the scene within minutes; and came across one lad holding a shotgun loaded and not broken in half (ready to fire). My adrenaline was high and I aimed at these 4 lads (as did other members of our patrol) We were screaming for him to drop the weapon ( which he did so straightaway) We could have LEGALLY taken him out, but in our professionalism we knew they were not terrorists. The lads were in tears and we took him back to his parents house close by. There will be many many stories like mine that you don't hear about - only the tragic ones.

I say to anyone who criticises the mistakes of our troops - go and experience it yourself and then comment.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:42 am

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry

IRA scum slaughtered men women and children by planting bombs in shops bars and even at the cenotaph in Eniskillin. This thread has nothing to do with the Provos, why mention Bloody Sunday.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:20 pm

jon1959 wrote:'Breitbart News Network is a right-wing or far-right American news, opinion and commentary website founded in 2007 by conservative commentator and entrepreneur Andrew Breitbart' - and full of made up crap!.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... urfed-wave

Breitbart has been calling things correctly for a while. It was them that was reporting that the remain was going to loose and that Trump was inline to win. I suppose you believe the news on the BBC and Sky to be the holy grail on truth ? :thumbup:

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:20 pm

Jock wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry

IRA scum slaughtered men women and children by planting bombs in shops bars and even at the cenotaph in Eniskillin. This thread has nothing to do with the Provos, why mention Bloody Sunday.

That was in November 1987, 15 years after Bloody Sunday

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:18 am

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Jock wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry

IRA scum slaughtered men women and children by planting bombs in shops bars and even at the cenotaph in Eniskillin. This thread has nothing to do with the Provos, why mention Bloody Sunday.

That was in November 1987, 15 years after Bloody Sunday

Well that's ok then, 2 children slaughtered in a Warrington shopping centre, pregnant women blown up in Omagh, Girl Guides, Boy Scouts and old men medals polished attending a remembrance service killed. I could go on and on but to you the murdering IRA c,nuts are heroes.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:17 pm

Gaz777 wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry


Have you ever been in a situation when your 'LIFE' is constantly under threat for 4.5 months tours?

Unfortunately mistakes are made in war.

When the adrenaline, fear, excitement, Tiredness, the constant stresses of remaining 'Always Alert' never switch off when out on a foot or mobile patrol in "enemy territory'. Watching forwards, left and right, behind you, watching windows for snipers, and up above, if walking near flats, (for fear of a small fridge been thrown out) expecting a 'contact' at any second. Night and day - months on end.

Just over Two Thousand members of the security forces lost their lives - including 1,400 British soldiers.

You'd understand how things can happen under duress. My patrol in one incident, could have easily shot several young lads aged around 17/18. Shots were heard, we were QRF (Quick Reaction Force) and were on the scene within minutes; and came across one lad holding a shotgun loaded and not broken in half (ready to fire). My adrenaline was high and I aimed at these 4 lads (as did other members of our patrol) We were screaming for him to drop the weapon ( which he did so straightaway) We could have LEGALLY taken him out, but in our professionalism we knew they were not terrorists. The lads were in tears and we took him back to his parents house close by. There will be many many stories like mine that you don't hear about - only the tragic ones.

I say to anyone who criticises the mistakes of our troops - go and experience it yourself and then comment.


Was it known as the Green Card rules you followed then?

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:32 pm

Jock wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Jock wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry

IRA scum slaughtered men women and children by planting bombs in shops bars and even at the cenotaph in Eniskillin. This thread has nothing to do with the Provos, why mention Bloody Sunday.

That was in November 1987, 15 years after Bloody Sunday

Well that's ok then, 2 children slaughtered in a Warrington shopping centre, pregnant women blown up in Omagh, Girl Guides, Boy Scouts and old men medals polished attending a remembrance service killed. I could go on and on but to you the murdering IRA c,nuts are heroes.

No where in this thread have I said that, but do carry on and invent untruths, why don't you? Lying is in vogue, after all.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:55 pm

Ex soldier here that has done quite a number of NI tours'

So easy for those who have not been a soldier themselves to point a finger.
Never judge a man till you have walked a mile in their shoes.

Besides, it was a few that fired shots on bloody Sunday, not the whole British army.

Where-as the whole of the IRA believe in political violence. End of.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:38 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
jon1959 wrote:'Breitbart News Network is a right-wing or far-right American news, opinion and commentary website founded in 2007 by conservative commentator and entrepreneur Andrew Breitbart' - and full of made up crap!.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... urfed-wave

Breitbart has been calling things correctly for a while. It was them that was reporting that the remain was going to loose and that Trump was inline to win. I suppose you believe the news on the BBC and Sky to be the holy grail on truth ? :thumbup:



At least there is a good chance that both the BBC and Sky would know the difference between " loose" and lose :D

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:03 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Gaz777 wrote:I have to laugh about asking Muslim leaders can we police your areas ,,,,pretty please! :laughing6:

What a laughing stock we now are in the eyes of the world!

Good job 'real men' policed the streets of Northern Ireland back in the day. No permission asked back then - we just did it regardless of risk!

Yeah, and killed 14 unarmed civilians on the streets of Derry


Have you ever been in a situation when your 'LIFE' is constantly under threat for 4.5 months tours?

Unfortunately mistakes are made in war.

When the adrenaline, fear, excitement, Tiredness, the constant stresses of remaining 'Always Alert' never switch off when out on a foot or mobile patrol in "enemy territory'. Watching forwards, left and right, behind you, watching windows for snipers, and up above, if walking near flats, (for fear of a small fridge been thrown out) expecting a 'contact' at any second. Night and day - months on end.

Just over Two Thousand members of the security forces lost their lives - including 1,400 British soldiers.

You'd understand how things can happen under duress. My patrol in one incident, could have easily shot several young lads aged around 17/18. Shots were heard, we were QRF (Quick Reaction Force) and were on the scene within minutes; and came across one lad holding a shotgun loaded and not broken in half (ready to fire). My adrenaline was high and I aimed at these 4 lads (as did other members of our patrol) We were screaming for him to drop the weapon ( which he did so straightaway) We could have LEGALLY taken him out, but in our professionalism we knew they were not terrorists. The lads were in tears and we took him back to his parents house close by. There will be many many stories like mine that you don't hear about - only the tragic ones.

I say to anyone who criticises the mistakes of our troops - go and experience it yourself and then comment.


Was it known as the Green Card rules you followed then?


Yellow card actually. Rules of engagement - some of the rules would get you killed if you actually followed them to the book.

Made up by some desk warrior in the MOD.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:22 pm

In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:25 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.


Who do you think they are?

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:29 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.



So what is your "experience" that has proved them to be Walter Mitty's ?

I can't speak for anyone else, but if you don't take my word that I have served in HM Forces....I don't give a shyte. :lol:

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:34 pm

GENERAL CHAT wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.



So what is your "experience" that has proved them to be Walter Mitty's ?

I can't speak for anyone else, but if you don't take my word that I have served in HM Forces....I don't give a shyte. :lol:


I haven't said anything about you.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:35 pm

GENERAL CHAT wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.



So what is your "experience" that has proved them to be Walter Mitty's ?

I can't speak for anyone else, but if you don't take my word that I have served in HM Forces....I don't give a shyte. :lol:



I spent many a night of my five short years in the glass house - I certainly didn't serve with distinction. Some would say i was a disgrace to my regiment! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:36 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
GENERAL CHAT wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.



So what is your "experience" that has proved them to be Walter Mitty's ?

I can't speak for anyone else, but if you don't take my word that I have served in HM Forces....I don't give a shyte. :lol:


I haven't said anything about you.


True.....no offence intended. :thumbup:

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:04 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.

Baffles me why any Welshman would want to serve Betty Battenberg, but each to their own I suppose.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:20 am

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.

Baffles me why any Welshman would want to serve Betty Battenberg, but each to their own I suppose.

You are an embarrassment.

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:14 am

Jock wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.

Baffles me why any Welshman would want to serve Betty Battenberg, but each to their own I suppose.

You are an embarrassment.

Why?

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:45 pm

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.

Baffles me why any Welshman would want to serve Betty Battenberg, but each to their own I suppose.


I joined when I was 17, not knowing much about politics at the time. (don't know a lot now either though) I suppose not many 17 year olds know exactly the mechanics of the politics anyway.

However, I had a fantastic time. Traveled the world, done some amazing things and had (and still do) some great real friends.
Most I went to school with ended up in a factory or on a building site. I learned so much about the world and about myself too.
Done some amazing humanitarian work as well as policing various opposing factions and preventing so much bloodshed. Stayed extremely fit and had some great down time/leave/R&R.
All the while, I was getting paid to do it too!
Just a small cog in a massive wheel of which I am proud to say I was a part of.
I have lost a few friends, but am proud and honored to have known them

We all owe so much more than we will ever know, to those that went before us.
Some payed the ultimate price.... They will surely never be forgotten.

Maybe it do baffle you why anyone would want to serve ""Betty Battenberg"" but at least you have the freedom to go on a website and express your views.....Because ... well if you don't know the rest, then no one will give a damn about you view.

:old:

Re: UK Cop: ‘There are areas we have to ask Muslim leaders’

Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:03 am

GENERAL CHAT wrote:
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:In my experience the people who bang on about serving their country in the army at every opportunity they get never actually served.

Some Walter Mittys on here for sure.

Baffles me why any Welshman would want to serve Betty Battenberg, but each to their own I suppose.


I joined when I was 17, not knowing much about politics at the time. (don't know a lot now either though) I suppose not many 17 year olds know exactly the mechanics of the politics anyway.

However, I had a fantastic time. Traveled the world, done some amazing things and had (and still do) some great real friends.
Most I went to school with ended up in a factory or on a building site. I learned so much about the world and about myself too.
Done some amazing humanitarian work as well as policing various opposing factions and preventing so much bloodshed. Stayed extremely fit and had some great down time/leave/R&R.
All the while, I was getting paid to do it too!
Just a small cog in a massive wheel of which I am proud to say I was a part of.
I have lost a few friends, but am proud and honored to have known them

We all owe so much more than we will ever know, to those that went before us.
Some payed the ultimate price.... They will surely never be forgotten.

Maybe it do baffle you why anyone would want to serve ""Betty Battenberg"" but at least you have the freedom to go on a website and express your views.....Because ... well if you don't know the rest, then no one will give a damn about you view.

:old:

Fair enough.