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' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:53 am

Kenneth Zohore does it all last night,but once again no goals from the striker.

Was on the pitch for 45minutes,second-half.

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STATS: Kenneth Zohore against Wolves last night
5 aerial duels won
3 fouls won
2 tackles won
2 shots
1 assist
0 goals

Prob the best City player on the field in the second-half when he came on,but he needs goals ASAP as he is a striker.

So would you start Zohore against Barnsley this Saturday?


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Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:55 am

Wasnt Pilkington up front last night?


and yeah i would give him a start.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:00 am

paulh_85 wrote:Wasnt Pilkington up front last night?


and yeah i would give him a start.


Pilkington started the game as our main striker.

I would also give Zohore his chance upfront on Saturday,but if does not score say before Xmas,we are wasting our time with him.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:06 am

Sorry Zohore is an impact player just like Noone so I would use him in that way until he can deliver for 90 minutes.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:14 am

Pulisnewport wrote:Sorry Zohore is an impact player just like Noone so I would use him in that way until he can deliver for 90 minutes.


Karl, I am starting to wonder as well, is he a striker? ?

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:14 am

Well he needs a goal of course, but he isn't guna score if he doesn't get minutes! I wasn't there but glad to hear he done well and if he was that good then give him a start why not!

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:21 am

nubbsy wrote:Well he needs a goal of course, but he isn't guna score if he doesn't get minutes! I wasn't there but glad to hear he done well and if he was that good then give him a start why not!


Jack, so lets give him a run of games before January :thumbright:

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:37 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Pulisnewport wrote:Sorry Zohore is an impact player just like Noone so I would use him in that way until he can deliver for 90 minutes.


Karl, I am starting to wonder as well, is he a striker? ?


Annis, we have given him a few chances before now just because he had a great 45 doesn't mean he can do the job. It's obvious we need strikers who can find the net at this level. Both he and Fred should go out on loan in January to Div 1 clubs. They can have a run and come back stronger for the summer.

Seasoned strikers is our priority!

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:39 am

No, Lambert to start NQAT if fit.

Zahore to be used as a 2nd half impact.

Definitely need a quality no 10 to play off Lambert or Zahore.

Zahore cannot hold up the ball.

He was 100% better than his pathetic display versus Wigan. He is best with the ball at his feet running at goal.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:50 am

His performance was refreshing and really pleasing to see and the effort he put in was even better.

However, I'm not sure we're in a position to risk starting him when Lambert is fit. Our position is still too precarious for us to consider that.

He's shown he has something to offer, even if it's as an impact sub to take some of the burden off Lambert but his lack of goals has to, currently, rule him out of a starting position.

Warnock certainly has a knack of getting the best out of players who want to work with him; Gunnarsson, Zahore, Whitts, Manga, Peltier, Noone and others have all reached heights that I though were either past them or above them ! Long may it continue and a couple of extra bodies in January could make the remainder of this season and all of next season very interesting.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:25 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Well he needs a goal of course, but he isn't guna score if he doesn't get minutes! I wasn't there but glad to hear he done well and if he was that good then give him a start why not!


Jack, so lets give him a run of games before January :thumbright:


Could he start with lambert? 2 big strikers and 1 has a little bit of pace could it be option for Saturday?

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:45 pm

Danny Says wrote:No, Lambert to start NQAT if fit.

Zahore to be used as a 2nd half impact.

Definitely need a quality no 10 to play off Lambert or Zahore.

Zahore cannot hold up the ball.

He was 100% better than his pathetic display versus Wigan. He is best with the ball at his feet running at goal.


Agree with all of that. He was fantastic for the 45 minutes he was on the pitch and Wolves just didn't know how to handle him. Pilkington played No. 10 in the second half and I really believe he is best suited to that position than as a main striker, certainly that is true in a direct Warnock side.

Lambert though is the main man but what Ken proved last night is that we finally might have a Plan B when RL is not available.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:17 pm

For me he did enough second half to justify starting him on Saturday, as long as he plays that way from the start of the game.

It doesn't look like Lambert is going to be able to play any game for 90 minutes so perhaps his main role will be as an impact sub when Lambert gets knackered, which is usually around 65 minutes or so.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:44 pm

I think he proved last night that he is worth persevering with. Considering we haven't had a striker into double figures for a season since before Malky arrived, measuring his ability on goals scored is hardly a good indicator!

I know Annis doesn't rate him, but all of our strikers in recent years have suffered from the lack of a creative midfield. The whole team played well last night, which gave him a chance to shine. I'd still put Lambert in ahead of Zohore, but he may yet surprise a few people with appearances off the bench and starting from time to time, and could still be one for the future.

And a part of me thinks that it isn't a goal scorer we need, but a goal creator.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:33 pm

id start zohore and bring lambert on sub untill hes 100% confident hes recovered from his injury. then use zohore as an impact sub when rickies 100% fit and ready. no point risking rickie against barnsley unless needed.
id also start noone after an impressive cameo

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:38 pm

Double G wrote:id start zohore and bring lambert on sub untill hes 100% confident hes recovered from his injury. then use zohore as an impact sub when rickies 100% fit and ready. no point risking rickie against barnsley unless needed.
id also start noone after an impressive cameo


Noone or Harris but whatever City were so much better with 2 proper wide men 2nd half - stretched Wolves.

No Whittingham I believe after his 5th booking. Ralls I suppose will come in.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:45 pm

Double G wrote:id start zohore and bring lambert on sub untill hes 100% confident hes recovered from his injury. then use zohore as an impact sub when rickies 100% fit and ready. no point risking rickie against barnsley unless needed.
id also start noone after an impressive cameo

Agree we need Ricky more over Christmas

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:57 pm

Danny Says wrote:
Double G wrote:id start zohore and bring lambert on sub untill hes 100% confident hes recovered from his injury. then use zohore as an impact sub when rickies 100% fit and ready. no point risking rickie against barnsley unless needed.
id also start noone after an impressive cameo


Noone or Harris but whatever City were so much better with 2 proper wide men 2nd half - stretched Wolves.

No Whittingham I believe after his 5th booking. Ralls I suppose will come in.


whittinghams available mate. football league deadline was before the prem deadline

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:07 pm

Yes i would , i thought he did very well, but as you said he needs a goal, and it would boost his confidence no end :ayatollah:

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:23 pm

He looked impressive for the last few minutes as an impact sub against Brentford away last season. He caused all sorts of mayhem, including scoring a goal

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:08 pm

Target men will never succeed here and I share a great deal sympathy because of our mentality from our fan base.. we have a fair proportion of fans who are incredibly delusional and expect every target man to be like Campbell.

How can these players have a chance and succeed when they get hounded for not scoring every game.. it's very rare nowadays you get a player of Zohore's mould scoring week in week out.

People like Jones, Zohore, etc have been hounded out by fans.. they get given no support or vote of confidence when they played and it's embarrassing hearing the reaction when Zohore and was even more better to see him perform the way he did because he has shut a few people up for a minute and hopefully he can build on this.

Because target men don't run about 24/7 like your Chopra's and Campbell's you get labelled lazy and a lump of crap, it's not the way they play or their style, I think supporters need to understand there's different type of strikers that have different attributes. :thumbright:

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:25 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Target men will never succeed here and I share a great deal sympathy because of our mentality from our fan base.. we have a fair proportion of fans who are incredibly delusional and expect every target man to be like Campbell.

How can these players have a chance and succeed when they get hounded for not scoring every game.. it's very rare nowadays you get a player of Zohore's mould scoring week in week out.

People like Jones, Zohore, etc have been hounded out by fans.. they get given no support or vote of confidence when they played and it's embarrassing hearing the reaction when Zohore and was even more better to see him perform the way he did because he has shut a few people up for a minute and hopefully he can build on this.

Because target men don't run about 24/7 like your Chopra's and Campbell's you get labelled lazy and a lump of crap, it's not the way they play or their style, I think supporters need to understand there's different type of strikers that have different attributes. :thumbright:


Dando, what a great post and similar to what I used to say when Jones was here and scoring a half decent amount of goals.
I lot of people on here just don't get it!
The same type of thing that Whitts gets criticised by certain posters because he doesn't run around like a headless chicken slamming into tackles.

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:38 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Target men will never succeed here and I share a great deal sympathy because of our mentality from our fan base.. we have a fair proportion of fans who are incredibly delusional and expect every target man to be like Campbell.

How can these players have a chance and succeed when they get hounded for not scoring every game.. it's very rare nowadays you get a player of Zohore's mould scoring week in week out.

People like Jones, Zohore, etc have been hounded out by fans.. they get given no support or vote of confidence when they played and it's embarrassing hearing the reaction when Zohore and was even more better to see him perform the way he did because he has shut a few people up for a minute and hopefully he can build on this.

Because target men don't run about 24/7 like your Chopra's and Campbell's you get labelled lazy and a lump of crap, it's not the way they play or their style, I think supporters need to understand there's different type of strikers that have different attributes. :thumbright:


Dando, what a great post and similar to what I used to say when Jones was here and scoring a half decent amount of goals.
I lot of people on here just don't get it!
The same type of thing that Whitts gets criticised by certain posters because he doesn't run around like a headless chicken slamming into tackles.


Because Whittingham never got stuck in and made slide tackles in the past he got criticised but that was never part of his game at all, every players has their attributes.. you have people like lets say KDB for Man City who is fantastic at making passes, set pieces, crossing and making excellent runs but then you have say Fernandinho who runs every yard of the pitch all game breaking up play.. just like Gunnarsson likes to do the gutsy work but has an horrific shot on him and is not exactly someone who creates chances which is what Whitingham does.

Just wish fans understood that you have players in positions who have 'different' type of styles just like Zohore is more of someone who bullies the defences, holds the ball up and brings others into play.. he needs someone to play off him like a Campbell.. I have seen many a time where the position Zohore was for Pilkingtons goal make the wrong pass but what he done weren't easy.. he had two players one being Hoilett making a run in behind but drew the defender in to make a decision and he laid it off, it was an excellent display.

He even run back 40 yards to pinch the ball of a Wolves player on the counter, not often you get that with target men. :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: ' Kenneth Zohore does it All, But '

Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:48 am

DandoCCFC wrote:Target men will never succeed here and I share a great deal sympathy because of our mentality from our fan base.. we have a fair proportion of fans who are incredibly delusional and expect every target man to be like Campbell.

How can these players have a chance and succeed when they get hounded for not scoring every game.. it's very rare nowadays you get a player of Zohore's mould scoring week in week out.

People like Jones, Zohore, etc have been hounded out by fans.. they get given no support or vote of confidence when they played and it's embarrassing hearing the reaction when Zohore and was even more better to see him perform the way he did because he has shut a few people up for a minute and hopefully he can build on this.

Because target men don't run about 24/7 like your Chopra's and Campbell's you get labelled lazy and a lump of crap, it's not the way they play or their style, I think supporters need to understand there's different type of strikers that have different attributes. :thumbright:



spot on post :thumbup: