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Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:09 pm

Whittingham sh1tting out of the tackle allowing them to break for the first goal was bad enough, but Sean Morrison's "attempt" (I put that in quotes because he stood, watched and made NO effort to challenge Kodjia) for their second goal was a disgrace!

We expect to see a team giving their all under Warnock, it's the least we deserve. The minimum we now expect is for our manager to make the necessary changes, strip Morrison of the captaincy and drop him, give Gunnarsson the captaincy and field an 11 with the correct character who won't let us down effort wise again.

Also, start Kadeem Harris instead of Noone! Harris has energy, enthusiasm, pace, trickery and flair to beat players, plus Harris has a good end product. Noone is now an ineffective waste of space compared to Harris, give Harris a chance Warnock!

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:32 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Whittingham sh1tting out of the tackle allowing them to break for the first goal was bad enough, but Sean Morrison's "attempt" (I put that in quotes because he stood, watched and made NO effort to challenge Kodjia) for their second goal was a disgrace!

We expect to see a team giving their all under Warnock, it's the least we deserve. The minimum we now expect is for our manager to make the necessary changes, strip Morrison of the captaincy and drop him, give Gunnarsson the captaincy and field an 11 with the correct character who won't let us down effort wise again.

Also, start Kadeem Harris instead of Noone! Harris has energy, enthusiasm, pace, trickery and flair to beat players, plus Harris has a good end product. Noone is now an ineffective waste of space compared to Harris, give Harris a chance Warnock!


How you start Harris instead of Noone when Noone didn't start??? Idiot

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:35 pm

Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:36 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul

Definite foul

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:36 pm

Big Ken wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Whittingham sh1tting out of the tackle allowing them to break for the first goal was bad enough, but Sean Morrison's "attempt" (I put that in quotes because he stood, watched and made NO effort to challenge Kodjia) for their second goal was a disgrace!

We expect to see a team giving their all under Warnock, it's the least we deserve. The minimum we now expect is for our manager to make the necessary changes, strip Morrison of the captaincy and drop him, give Gunnarsson the captaincy and field an 11 with the correct character who won't let us down effort wise again.

Also, start Kadeem Harris instead of Noone! Harris has energy, enthusiasm, pace, trickery and flair to beat players, plus Harris has a good end product. Noone is now an ineffective waste of space compared to Harris, give Harris a chance Warnock!


How you start Harris instead of No one when Noone didn't start??? Idiot


Noone was brought on as a replacement for Pilkington instead of Harris...IDIOT!!

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:39 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Big Ken wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Whittingham sh1tting out of the tackle allowing them to break for the first goal was bad enough, but Sean Morrison's "attempt" (I put that in quotes because he stood, watched and made NO effort to challenge Kodjia) for their second goal was a disgrace!

We expect to see a team giving their all under Warnock, it's the least we deserve. The minimum we now expect is for our manager to make the necessary changes, strip Morrison of the captaincy and drop him, give Gunnarsson the captaincy and field an 11 with the correct character who won't let us down effort wise again.

Also, start Kadeem Harris instead of Noone! Harris has energy, enthusiasm, pace, trickery and flair to beat players, plus Harris has a good end product. Noone is now an ineffective waste of space compared to Harris, give Harris a chance Warnock!


How you start Harris instead of No one when Noone didn't start??? Idiot


Noone was brought on as a replacement for Pilkington instead of Harris...IDIOT!!


Well said Ross. Everyone else could see what you were saying. What a whooper this guy has had.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:41 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Sorry, but centre backs shouldn't allow the opposing striker to get the better of him in any way when a ball is lobbed into the box. It was a defenders ball. Morrison didn't even compete. Jostling is a fair tactic in competing for a ball lobbed into the box. I would like to say Morrison competed and was second best to Kodjia's power and strength...but Morrison didn't even bother to compete!

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:56 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Sorry, but centre backs shouldn't allow the opposing striker to get the better of him in any way when a ball is lobbed into the box. It was a defenders ball. Morrison didn't even compete. Jostling is a fair tactic in competing for a ball lobbed into the box. I would like to say Morrison competed and was second best to Kodjia's power and strength...but Morrison didn't even bother to compete!

Because he was being held down by Ayew climbing all over him you idiot. That's not jostling it's a clear foul.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:57 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:26 pm

davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:34 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once



Oh look it's the forum fool

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:57 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Whittingham sh1tting out of the tackle allowing them to break for the first goal was bad enough, but Sean Morrison's "attempt" (I put that in quotes because he stood, watched and made NO effort to challenge Kodjia) for their second goal was a disgrace!

We expect to see a team giving their all under Warnock, it's the least we deserve. The minimum we now expect is for our manager to make the necessary changes, strip Morrison of the captaincy and drop him, give Gunnarsson the captaincy and field an 11 with the correct character who won't let us down effort wise again.

Also, start Kadeem Harris instead of Noone! Harris has energy, enthusiasm, pace, trickery and flair to beat players, plus Harris has a good end product. Noone is now an ineffective waste of space compared to Harris, give Harris a chance Warnock!


I agree with you but Am starting to question Amos inability to come off his line, started to notice this. The noone debate is over, offers nothing. We aren't a million miles away, will improve with additions in the correct areas. :thumbup:

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:36 am

I agree with tonteg you've got to do more to compete. That kodija is a top striker and difficult to beat in the air but someone as strong and big as Morrison shouldn't be getting beat that easy. Even if he just attempted to get off the floor and win the header it might've put kodija off or Morrison could've got a nick to it, instead he allowed himself to be planted to the floor.

Frustrating again yesterday because all of our goals we're conceding could easily be prevented.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:11 pm

Stringfellow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Whittingham sh1tting out of the tackle allowing them to break for the first goal was bad enough, but Sean Morrison's "attempt" (I put that in quotes because he stood, watched and made NO effort to challenge Kodjia) for their second goal was a disgrace!

We expect to see a team giving their all under Warnock, it's the least we deserve. The minimum we now expect is for our manager to make the necessary changes, strip Morrison of the captaincy and drop him, give Gunnarsson the captaincy and field an 11 with the correct character who won't let us down effort wise again.

Also, start Kadeem Harris instead of Noone! Harris has energy, enthusiasm, pace, trickery and flair to beat players, plus Harris has a good end product. Noone is now an ineffective waste of space compared to Harris, give Harris a chance Warnock!


I agree with you but Am starting to question Amos inability to come off his line, started to notice this. The noone debate is over, offers nothing. We aren't a million miles away, will improve with additions in the correct areas. :thumbup:


You make a valid point about Amos.

The ball was played into the six yard box in the air. Ideally you'd want your goalkeeper coming out and knocking everybody out of the way to claim any ball in the six yard box, defenders, attackers and the ref if need be and making the ball his.

Amos seems afflicted with the same problem all our keepers have had over the past seasons, including Marshall - an inability or unwillingness to come off their goal line.

Amos for me is a very decent back up goalkeeper but that's about it.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:22 pm

Big Ken wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once



Oh look it's the forum fool


Yes that's me being a fool saying it as it is
But all you post is not factual drivel

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:23 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
Big Ken wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once



Oh look it's the forum fool


Yes that's me being a fool saying it as it is
But all you post is not factual drivel


Don't upset this guy too much Steve, he will be wanting to meet you outside.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:11 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Whittingham sh1tting out of the tackle allowing them to break for the first goal was bad enough, but Sean Morrison's "attempt" (I put that in quotes because he stood, watched and made NO effort to challenge Kodjia) for their second goal was a disgrace!

We expect to see a team giving their all under Warnock, it's the least we deserve. The minimum we now expect is for our manager to make the necessary changes, strip Morrison of the captaincy and drop him, give Gunnarsson the captaincy and field an 11 with the correct character who won't let us down effort wise again.

Also, start Kadeem Harris instead of Noone! Harris has energy, enthusiasm, pace, trickery and flair to beat players, plus Harris has a good end product. Noone is now an ineffective waste of space compared to Harris, give Harris a chance Warnock!


Kodjia pinned Morrison, he couldn't jump. Also, he's got the run on Morrison who is directly under the flight of the ball.

Noone didn't start, and Harris doesn't have end product. None of our last 5 managers have started Harris regularly, there might be a reason for that, probably along the lines of, he's not very good.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:13 pm

davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.


You try jumping when someone is putting their force on you, you can't. Have you ever played and that's happened to you? Kodjia also has the run on Morrison, he had no chance.

Also, Whitts is the only player we have that can pass the ball. Yes, he has weaknesses but he's our best player.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:23 pm

Morrison was fouled. I've watched it back a few times.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:10 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Big Ken wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once



Oh look it's the forum fool


Yes that's me being a fool saying it as it is
But all you post is not factual drivel




Don't upset this guy too much Steve, he will be wanting to meet you outside.

I seem to recall you trying to do the same and intimidate me via PM but second prize you had mr pot, kettle and black.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:04 pm

polo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Big Ken wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once



Oh look it's the forum fool


Yes that's me being a fool saying it as it is
But all you post is not factual drivel




Don't upset this guy too much Steve, he will be wanting to meet you outside.

I seem to recall you trying to do the same and intimidate me via PM but second prize you had mr pot, kettle and black.


Huh I recall you inviting me to the Corporation.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:49 pm

Thing is everyone here is talking about one out of the thirty goals we have already conceded this season. Whatever the ardgument is over Morrison and this particular bit of defending, this is not the only reason we are in trouble at the moment. Only two sides have conceded more than us in this division, and our whole side needs to take collective responsibility for what has proved to be some terrible defending throughout the season.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:22 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:Thing is everyone here is talking about one out of the thirty goals we have already conceded this season. Whatever the ardgument is over Morrison and this particular bit of defending, this is not the only reason we are in trouble at the moment. Only two sides have conceded more than us in this division, and our whole side needs to take collective responsibility for what has proved to be some terrible defending throughout the season.


I think its how the first goal was scored gives us clues to why we are conceding too many, our midfield, failing to stop the run at pace from the half way line to the box and our defender failing to make a tackle and stop the cross in the box. I am not blaming anybody but thats the problem we have collectively.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:02 pm

oxfordblue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Thing is everyone here is talking about one out of the thirty goals we have already conceded this season. Whatever the ardgument is over Morrison and this particular bit of defending, this is not the only reason we are in trouble at the moment. Only two sides have conceded more than us in this division, and our whole side needs to take collective responsibility for what has proved to be some terrible defending throughout the season.


I think its how the first goal was scored gives us clues to why we are conceding too many, our midfield, failing to stop the run at pace from the half way line to the box and our defender failing to make a tackle and stop the cross in the box. I am not blaming anybody but thats the problem we have collectively.

I agree with you. Defending your goal begins a lot further up the field than just your own 18 yard box.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:04 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
polo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Big Ken wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once



Oh look it's the forum fool


Yes that's me being a fool saying it as it is
But all you post is not factual drivel




Don't upset this guy too much Steve, he will be wanting to meet you outside.

I seem to recall you trying to do the same and intimidate me via PM but second prize you had mr pot, kettle and black.


Huh I recall you inviting me to the Corporation.

It was The Neville or The Cornwall and I told you that when you asked where you could find me on match day :roll:

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:14 pm

polo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
polo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
Big Ken wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
davids wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul


Morrison much too weak in that situation.

Last week I started a thread saying how well he'd played but today he was truly shocking.

And Whittingham bottled out of virtually every challenge he went near - even where it was 60/40 in his favour. The left side of the field with him and Ralls is extremely weak.

You cant say that about whitts , you will be labeled the forum fool
whitts is our best tackler , look at the stats
oh and hes our best dead ball taker , except for today , his corners in the 2nd half were worse than crap , free kicks were no better , dont think he beat the first defender once



Oh look it's the forum fool


Yes that's me being a fool saying it as it is
But all you post is not factual drivel




Don't upset this guy too much Steve, he will be wanting to meet you outside.

I seem to recall you trying to do the same and intimidate me via PM but second prize you had mr pot, kettle and black.


Huh I recall you inviting me to the Corporation.

It was The Neville or The Cornwall and I told you that when you asked where you could find me on match day :roll:


Nah pretty sure it was the Corporation and I can't remember ever asking where I can find you. Last thing I'm going to do is waste my time doing that.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:47 pm

Morrison got done, that's it. It doesn't take much down force to stop you timing your jump.

The defensive midfield role is not doing much is it. Would we really be losing by 5 goals if we went to a 442 and played another striker and starting defending further up field. Yes i believe Whitts and Gunnar can't play together, so don't play either of them.

Re: Morrison's "attempt" defending our second goal

Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:15 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Kodija clearly climbed on Morrison.

Morrison should have backed into him and used his arms to 'feel him', but it was still a foul



yeah i agree morrison should have kept backing in rather than expect the foul to come but its not all his fault hopefully the next six games we can pick up a gd few points and start to look up and give us a better chance of getting some quality in in jan