OT - Raheem Kassam UKIP

The most popular party on this forum by far are UKIP. Just wondering what people make of this man and if they think he's a good fit for the party? I don't like the man but he does have something about him and will not be scared to say the things that most people think and the other parties dare not say.

Also it would be one in the eye for all the lefties who paint UKIP as this Islamophobic monster full of old white men. Kassam is a Muslim, the modern day Muslim. I have voted for UKIP in the past but if I was to vote tomorrow it would be for the Tories I think this man more than most will be able to win me back.

Im not a UKIP fan - Reading some of his previous twitter posts, he's orbital right wing - reminds me of Brownie.

As the song goes, "Just the BNP in a diffrent dress" still the same old homophobic racists as before

Wouldn't piss on Farage and his ilk if they were on fire.

Wouldn't piss on Farage and his ilk if they were on fire.

As the song goes, "Just the BNP in a diffrent dress" still the same old homophobic racists as before

Never heard UKIP being Racist or homeaphobic. Now Dianne Abbott she is a vile Racist and anti Jew just like the rest of Labour.

As the song goes, "Just the BNP in a diffrent dress" still the same old homophobic racists as before

Another bright spark ^^^

He has pretty extreme views.

Farage won't like his appointment though.

Farage duped everyone when really.. he is a national front nazi sympathizer. He was in his college days and has never changed. As the saying goes "you can't renovate hell"

Of course as someone pointed out their are racists in every party but ukip has more than most at the senior level.

As the song goes, "Just the BNP in a diffrent dress" still the same old homophobic racists as before

Another bright spark ^^^

You really should read some of your own posts fella, no doubt you support UKIP aswell.

How can anyone support a load of failed or expelled ex tories pretending to be a party for the working classes

The guy is a crackpot and will take the party backwards (therefore is a great choice in my eyes)

Basically, UKIP have a core base support of around 15%. To go above that is impossible tbh because they are just too divisive.

Their reputation has been cast in cement, so unless they rebrand, they will be forever known as the party obsessed with the 'other'. As i said, this will get you a decent core support, but nothing more.

Look at Plaid, they have been trying to ditch the tag of being 'just for Welsh speakers' for years. Has it worked? Nope

There is potential for Plaid and UKIP to eat away Labour supporters in Wales if, and when, their demise comes

How can anyone support a load of failed or expelled ex tories pretending to be a party for the working classes

Because people are looking for something different to the usual bullshit of mainstream politics and ukip know how to manipulate people with lies, half truths and right wing sound bites that prey on people's fears.

There is nothing working class about ukip. Farage.... Working class..... !!!! Jeez... The guy is about as working class as the rest of the Oxbridge elitists in the mainstream parties..

As the song goes, "Just the BNP in a diffrent dress" still the same old homophobic racists as before

Squawking racist at anyone with a different point of view to yourself tells me you've lost the argument. For homophobic racists look no further than the Islamists the looney left want to welcome into our country.

As the song goes, "Just the BNP in a diffrent dress" still the same old homophobic racists as before

Squawking racist at anyone with a different point of view to yourself tells me you've lost the argument. For homophobic racists look no further than the Islamists the looney left want to welcome into our country.

Really......maybe you should read the full text first and offer a clearer argument or debate about what I have said about racism and presenting a clearer point. I also did not realise replying to a post was a win or lose argument?

Also maybe you could define what an Islamist is, clearly you are refering to all who would like to come to the UK and follow the religion of islam? or just the ones you think are Islamists.
In terms of Islamist are you refering to those with a diffrent ideology of islam than peaceful muslims trying to come to this country?

The most popular party on this forum by far are UKIP. Just wondering what people make of this man and if they think he's a good fit for the party? I don't like the man but he does have something about him and will not be scared to say the things that most people think and the other parties dare not say.

Also it would be one in the eye for all the lefties who paint UKIP as this Islamophobic monster full of old white men. Kassam is a Muslim, the modern day Muslim. I have voted for UKIP in the past but if I was to vote tomorrow it would be for the Tories I think this man more than most will be able to win me back.

I think this forum as dispelled your myth about the majority on this forum support ukip, or even the tories for that matter. Some middle class people from Cardiff might, but a huge majority on this forum are from the valleys, west wales and east Wales, and have a full understanding of political beliefs. Over history, through the thatcher era right through to your argument of today, a huge majority of Cardiff city fans and the people of industrial South Wales do not support racism and capitalism. Everything we have, we have had to fight for, just like city fans I suppose, and are proud of the stand we have taken. So don't come the ukip/Tory crap on here, it just does not belong here. I have liked your humour and banter over many years on this forum and thought some of your arguments were well thought through, obviously I was wrong!

The most popular party on this forum by far are UKIP. Just wondering what people make of this man and if they think he's a good fit for the party? I don't like the man but he does have something about him and will not be scared to say the things that most people think and the other parties dare not say.

Also it would be one in the eye for all the lefties who paint UKIP as this Islamophobic monster full of old white men. Kassam is a Muslim, the modern day Muslim. I have voted for UKIP in the past but if I was to vote tomorrow it would be for the Tories I think this man more than most will be able to win me back.

I think this forum as dispelled your myth about the majority on this forum support ukip, or even the tories for that matter. Some middle class people from Cardiff might, but a huge majority on this forum are from the valleys, west wales and east Wales, and have a full understanding of political beliefs. Over history, through the thatcher era right through to your argument of today, a huge majority of Cardiff city fans and the people of industrial South Wales do not support racism and capitalism. Everything we have, we have had to fight for, just like city fans I suppose, and are proud of the stand we have taken. So don't come the ukip/Tory crap on here, it just does not belong here. I have liked your humour and banter over many years on this forum and thought some of your arguments were well thought through, obviously I was wrong!

Spot on post

He is not a Muslim...

As for the comment about UKIP not giving a damn for the working class !!!! Get real will you. What have those Labour hypocrites done over the last 30 years ? look at the biggest shyster of all Kinnock and his horrible wife.They are a fine example of why the Welsh should abandon these phonies.

As for the comment about UKIP not giving a damn for the working class !!!! Get real will you. What have those Labour hypocrites done over the last 30 years ? look at the biggest shyster of all Kinnock and his horrible wife.They are a fine example of why the Welsh should abandon these phonies.

Just because people don't think UKIP give a damn about the working classs doesn't mean they are Labour supporters.

Labour has let the working class down as has every other major party.

But the point is that UKIP gave gained working class support and I believe that the party hierarchy, in particular Farage, is no friend to working class people. Just because he stands (awkwardly) in a pub with a fag and pint doesn't mean he has any empathy for the working class... unless people are that gullible and easily manipulated.

Farage has a history of extreme views even going back to his college days where his views and political beliefs were extreme. Beliefs he has never denied and beliefs that he documented through his writings.

Raheem Kassam is not a Muslim and in fact is an atheist. He is a climate change denier... What a catch.

As the song goes, "Just the BNP in a diffrent dress" still the same old homophobic racists as before

Squawking racist at anyone with a different point of view to yourself tells me you've lost the argument. For homophobic racists look no further than the Islamists the looney left want to welcome into our country.

Really......maybe you should read the full text first and offer a clearer argument or debate about what I have said about racism and presenting a clearer point. I also did not realise replying to a post was a win or lose argument?

Also maybe you could define what an Islamist is, clearly you are refering to all who would like to come to the UK and follow the religion of islam? or just the ones you think are Islamists.
In terms of Islamist are you refering to those with a diffrent ideology of islam than peaceful muslims trying to come to this country?

We both know what an Islamist is and the numerous plots foiled by our security services proves there's way too many of the fekkers here already.

The most popular party on this forum by far are UKIP. Just wondering what people make of this man and if they think he's a good fit for the party? I don't like the man but he does have something about him and will not be scared to say the things that most people think and the other parties dare not say.

Also it would be one in the eye for all the lefties who paint UKIP as this Islamophobic monster full of old white men. Kassam is a Muslim, the modern day Muslim. I have voted for UKIP in the past but if I was to vote tomorrow it would be for the Tories I think this man more than most will be able to win me back.

I think this forum as dispelled your myth about the majority on this forum support ukip, or even the tories for that matter. Some middle class people from Cardiff might, but a huge majority on this forum are from the valleys, west wales and east Wales, and have a full understanding of political beliefs. Over history, through the thatcher era right through to your argument of today, a huge majority of Cardiff city fans and the people of industrial South Wales do not support racism and capitalism. Everything we have, we have had to fight for, just like city fans I suppose, and are proud of the stand we have taken. So don't come the ukip/Tory crap on here, it just does not belong here. I have liked your humour and banter over many years on this forum and thought some of your arguments were well thought through, obviously I was wrong!

Glad you've enjoyed my posts in the past and the arguments I make however my claim that UKIP are the most popular party on this forum is evidenced by the following polls conducted on here on election days over the past few years, both of which see UKIP as clear winners.

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Also your claim about "middle class people in Cardiff" voting UKIP is wrong. UKIP in Wales poll highest in the Valleys and West Wales. Cardiff voted to remain in the EU when the whole of the Valleys and most parts of West Wales opted to leave. I am not a UKIP voter, they've outlasted their welcome for me but to many on this forum it's clear they are still very popular. During the referendum the overwhelming majority of the posters on here were for leave.

I apologise for using these facts to make the claim that UKIP are the most popular party on this forum. The most popular party among Cardiff fans will no doubt be the Labour party but this forum is evidently different.

The most popular party on this forum by far are UKIP. Just wondering what people make of this man and if they think he's a good fit for the party? I don't like the man but he does have something about him and will not be scared to say the things that most people think and the other parties dare not say.

Also it would be one in the eye for all the lefties who paint UKIP as this Islamophobic monster full of old white men. Kassam is a Muslim, the modern day Muslim. I have voted for UKIP in the past but if I was to vote tomorrow it would be for the Tories I think this man more than most will be able to win me back.

just seen him on fb arguing with posters about a Slovakian sort of forum posting pictures of him holding a gun if anyone cares to type him in

Bennett, Bloom, Farage and countless other Kippers have all made blatantly racist remarks in the past. Hamilton is a right-winger who was done for corruption. Now we are out of the EU they have lost their only policy and the Tories have stolen other populist ideas like Grammar school s ( failed in the past) and preferring the pollution of fracking to the opportunities of green solutions. In short, there is no reason why they should exist, except to milk the EU for salaries, much of which actually funded their brexit campaign in the past.

Bennett, Bloom, Farage and countless other Kippers have all made blatantly racist remarks in the past. Hamilton is a right-winger who was done for corruption. Now we are out of the EU they have lost their only policy and the Tories have stolen other populist ideas like Grammar school s ( failed in the past) and preferring the pollution of fracking to the opportunities of green solutions. In short, there is no reason why they should exist, except to milk the EU for salaries, much of which actually funded their brexit campaign in the past.

True.

UKIP MEP's have been biting off the teats that feed them - then alas there will be no teats to feed off. Poor things. Won their mandate and lost their purpose.

I predict though that without a mandate they will radicalise the party further in order to find some 'uniqueness' now that Brexit is happening and that some members are heading back to the Tories. You notice how they are already allowing a way in for BNP supporters, which is their natural stomping ground really (see what I did there with 'stomping' ).

All mainstream parties are full of shit and have failed, but the response and solution is not to support UKIP.

Kassam and Trump! The world has come off its axis! Do you think it's all the drugs that's leeching into our water supply? Pity help us!

The Jerk has disappeared."The Path To Victory Is Too Narrow" Phew,that was a close call; now for Trump!

Bennett, Bloom, Farage and countless other Kippers have all made blatantly racist remarks in the past. Hamilton is a right-winger who was done for corruption. Now we are out of the EU they have lost their only policy and the Tories have stolen other populist ideas like Grammar school s ( failed in the past) and preferring the pollution of fracking to the opportunities of green solutions. In short, there is no reason why they should exist, except to milk the EU for salaries, much of which actually funded their brexit campaign in the past.

True.

UKIP MEP's have been biting off the teats that feed them - then alas there will be no teats to feed off. Poor things. Won their mandate and lost their purpose.

I predict though that without a mandate they will radicalise the party further in order to find some 'uniqueness' now that Brexit is happening and that some members are heading back to the Tories. You notice how they are already allowing a way in for BNP supporters, which is their natural stomping ground really (see what I did there with 'stomping' ).

All mainstream parties are full of shit and have failed, but the response and solution is not to support UKIP.

I agree UKIP are likely to go more to the right. I never heard what kind of numbers on immigration UKIP were actually to allow other than referencing the ozzie points system

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As for the comment about UKIP not giving a damn for the working class !!!! Get real will you. What have those Labour hypocrites done over the last 30 years ? look at the biggest shyster of all Kinnock and his horrible wife.They are a fine example of why the Welsh should abandon these phonies.

Just because people don't think UKIP give a damn about the working classs doesn't mean they are Labour supporters.

Labour has let the working class down as has every other major party.

But the point is that UKIP gave gained working class support and I believe that the party hierarchy, in particular Farage, is no friend to working class people. Just because he stands (awkwardly) in a pub with a fag and pint doesn't mean he has any empathy for the working class... unless people are that gullible and easily manipulated.

Farage has a history of extreme views even going back to his college days where his views and political beliefs were extreme. Beliefs he has never denied and beliefs that he documented through his writings.

Raheem Kassam is not a Muslim and in fact is an atheist. He is a climate change denier... What a catch.

So because he is a non Muslim then you are saying he isn't worthy of being UKIPs leader ? And denying climate change like many do is also a reason to say What a catch !! So called climate change we are supposed to believe it because the Government says so and some over zealous doomsday scientists ? What does the government do about so called climate change ? Ohh yes they Tax us more, they tax you on your electric they tax you more if you drive a big car. But let's get this bang on here, the climate doesn't stay the exactly the same it never has never will. In fact sea fearing records in the 18 century show the temperatures are the same as they are now. We are shown how the landscapes are changing. Well Scotland at one time was connected to America so for me it is just being used by political parties to say they are doing more to save the planet etc etc yawn yawn, and for governments to raise more taxes whilst doing feck all for the environment.
Yes it's changing but I do honestly believe it's more natural than man made.
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