a wigan fans view on malkay hmmmmm

Former Cardiff manager, Malky Mackay managed you during the 2014-15 season, what was your view on him?

Mackay was definitely a key reason in why we went down. Although he took over under pretty bad circumstances and sold the majority of our Premier League team in that January window.

I think most Wigan fans would see him as one of our worst ever managers and rightly so, his win percentage was something around the 15% mark and the football was dreadful at the best of times. His sacking was a very popular decision among

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

spot on polo

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

How dare you diss Malky.I'll have you know he's got a world class fist pump which as any real fan will tell you is all you need to be classed as good at this club.

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

Some might argue giving MM a decent budget is not a very good idea either

That said it is hard to disagree with your view. MM had only one style of play and it was utter crap to watch. The fact our highest scorer during the promotion season had 9 goals says it all as far as entertainment went.

Shame really as he seemed a nice fella but as they say history will judge.

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

How dare you diss Malky.I'll have you know he's got a world class fist pump which as any real fan will tell you is all you need to be classed as good at this club.

Added to the fist pump falling out with Vincent Tan was his most admirable trait in some fans eyes

Malky was not perfect in fact football to watch was not that fun. But he got results and the players played for the shirt. Respect from me as he got us promoted. A decent budget yes but that's no guarantee. Biggest shame was how it all ended. The seems at Liverpool will always be memorable evening the full facts were not known at the time. That showed me there is still massive passion still within our fan Base

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

Great post.

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

Disagree with most of this (as I would as a fan of Malky's time at the club)

Most City fans agree that the DJ team the end of the last decade was our best side in recent years, yet that side couldn't get out of the Championship in those 'average to poor' seasons.

The only reason the Championship is better than it was then (if it is) is because of the parachute payment money creating unfair advantages with PL sides keeping most of their players and even adding some. It's an unfair advantage and stifles competitiveness. Yes, some managers had lucky seasons but then some also had a bit of magic which they have since lost (arguably happening to Mourinho atm)

Your last comment is untrue as Malky did well at Watford with no budget at all as the team went into administration during his first season. The reason they faded was because of a lack of budget to strengthen the squad.

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

Disagree with most of this (as I would as a fan of Malky's time at the club)

Most City fans agree that the DJ team the end of the last decade was our best side in recent years, yet that side couldn't get out of the Championship in those 'average to poor' seasons.

The only reason the Championship is better than it was then (if it is) is because of the parachute payment money creating unfair advantages with PL sides keeping most of their players and even adding some. It's an unfair advantage and stifles competitiveness. Yes, some managers had lucky seasons but then some also had a bit of magic which they have since lost (arguably happening to Mourinho atm)

Your last comment is untrue as Malky did well at Watford with no budget at all as the team went into administration during his first season. The reason they faded was because of a lack of budget to strengthen the squad.

I'm neither a fan of Malky nor Dave Jones but I do have a soft spot for Dave due to the horrendous nightmare he suffered while at Southampton.

Malky had limited tactical nous but so did Dave Jones. Malky knew how to connect with the fans, Dave didn't. However Malky's judgement on team selection was abysmal (particularly in the Premier) Dave's was somewhat better overall.

But the one area that Malky excells way over Dave is in man management. The infamous Middleborough match still rankles with me and my guess is Malky wouldn't have let that happen.

I've always felt he was over rated he had success with us because he was given the right to spend alot of money both transfers and wages but still only got the 1 good season we was heading for relegation in the prem if we sacked him or not and we was around the 6th highest spenders in that time and the finances gone out on them wages and transfer fees made a big impact on our bad finances now and we all knew the football wasn't great but we didn't care in the Championship as we where getting results alot of fans still love him but in my View Warnock is the best manager we have had since we harshly sacked Dave Jones who got us results whilst selling our best players and bringing in players free or loans if Dave Jones was given the backing Malky got I feel we would be in a much better position than we are but the feel good factor is finally returning under Warnock

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

Disagree with most of this (as I would as a fan of Malky's time at the club)

Most City fans agree that the DJ team the end of the last decade was our best side in recent years, yet that side couldn't get out of the Championship in those 'average to poor' seasons.

The only reason the Championship is better than it was then (if it is) is because of the parachute payment money creating unfair advantages with PL sides keeping most of their players and even adding some. It's an unfair advantage and stifles competitiveness. Yes, some managers had lucky seasons but then some also had a bit of magic which they have since lost (arguably happening to Mourinho atm)

Your last comment is untrue as Malky did well at Watford with no budget at all as the team went into administration during his first season. The reason they faded was because of a lack of budget to strengthen the squad.

I'm neither a fan of Malky nor Dave Jones but I do have a soft spot for Dave due to the horrendous nightmare he suffered while at Southampton.

Malky had limited tactical nous but so did Dave Jones. Malky knew how to connect with the fans, Dave didn't. However Malky's judgement on team selection was abysmal (particularly in the Premier) Dave's was somewhat better overall.

But the one area that Malky excells way over Dave is in man management. The infamous Middleborough match still rankles with me and my guess is Malky wouldn't have let that happen.

You are talking about two managers who oversaw this clubs greatest period of success in probably the last 80 years, the only two managers who have taken us to major cup finals since 1927 with one also winning the Championship with one going mighty close to promotion a few years running.

I presume by team selection you mean 'transfers'?? Again these were two very successful managers for us. Even in transfers the only signings Malky seriously lost money on were Cornelius and Maynard.

DJ did all of his work with very little money and compared to some of our rivals in 2011-2013 we were not spending much more than other teams under Malky either. Blackburn shelled out £8m on Rhodes in summer 2012 so the days of gambling to get to PL had begun.

I think you won't find many City fans willing to support harsh criticism of the main protagonists of our most successful seasons in living memory.

In fact, though some may not admit it, it's Warnocks similarities to Malky that lead to his massive support amongst the fanbase.

I've always felt he was over rated he had success with us because he was given the right to spend alot of money both transfers and wages but still only got the 1 good season we was heading for relegation in the prem if we sacked him or not and we was around the 6th highest spenders in that time and the finances gone out on them wages and transfer fees made a big impact on our bad finances now and we all knew the football wasn't great but we didn't care in the Championship as we where getting results alot of fans still love him but in my View Warnock is the best manager we have had since we harshly sacked Dave Jones who got us results whilst selling our best players and bringing in players free or loans if Dave Jones was given the backing Malky got I feel we would be in a much better position than we are but the feel good factor is finally returning under Warnock

Malky spent what he was given and we got money back on virtually all of his signings. Wages might have cost serious money but he didn't negotiate those. Home games against Hull, West Ham, Norwich, Sunderland, Palace, Villa all still to play before his sacking, I think we might have done it.

Former Cardiff manager, Malky Mackay managed you during the 2014-15 season, what was your view on him?

Mackay was definitely a key reason in why we went down. Although he took over under pretty bad circumstances and sold the majority of our Premier League team in that January window.

I think most Wigan fans would see him as one of our worst ever managers and rightly so, his win percentage was something around the 15% mark and the football was dreadful at the best of times. His sacking was a very popular decision among

On a percentage scale of Championship Managers he's about 56%, Trollope's about 3% and Slade 41%, Warnock is 99%

Former Cardiff manager, Malky Mackay managed you during the 2014-15 season, what was your view on him?

Mackay was definitely a key reason in why we went down. Although he took over under pretty bad circumstances and sold the majority of our Premier League team in that January window.

I think most Wigan fans would see him as one of our worst ever managers and rightly so, his win percentage was something around the 15% mark and the football was dreadful at the best of times. His sacking was a very popular decision among

On a percentage scale of Championship Managers he's about 56%, Trollope's about 3% and Slade 41%, Warnock is 99%

Dave Jones about 75%, Ole Gunner 6%

Welshman Bill Jones got us promotion to the First Division (now Premiership) and kept us their for 2seasons.Jimmy Scoular was also a better Manager than Milky and Dave Jones in my opinion?

Malky has played a significant role in ruining this club financially and bringing it's name through the s**t just like the board has, supporters won't see that because they are narrow minded.

I've always felt he was over rated he had success with us because he was given the right to spend alot of money both transfers and wages but still only got the 1 good season we was heading for relegation in the prem if we sacked him or not and we was around the 6th highest spenders in that time and the finances gone out on them wages and transfer fees made a big impact on our bad finances now and we all knew the football wasn't great but we didn't care in the Championship as we where getting results alot of fans still love him but in my View Warnock is the best manager we have had since we harshly sacked Dave Jones who got us results whilst selling our best players and bringing in players free or loans if Dave Jones was given the backing Malky got I feel we would be in a much better position than we are but the feel good factor is finally returning under Warnock

Malky spent what he was given and we got money back on virtually all of his signings. Wages might have cost serious money but he didn't negotiate those. Home games against Hull, West Ham, Norwich, Sunderland, Palace, Villa all still to play before his sacking, I think we might have done it.

Well said.

I've always felt he was over rated he had success with us because he was given the right to spend alot of money both transfers and wages but still only got the 1 good season we was heading for relegation in the prem if we sacked him or not and we was around the 6th highest spenders in that time and the finances gone out on them wages and transfer fees made a big impact on our bad finances now and we all knew the football wasn't great but we didn't care in the Championship as we where getting results alot of fans still love him but in my View Warnock is the best manager we have had since we harshly sacked Dave Jones who got us results whilst selling our best players and bringing in players free or loans if Dave Jones was given the backing Malky got I feel we would be in a much better position than we are but the feel good factor is finally returning under Warnock

Malky spent what he was given and we got money back on virtually all of his signings. Wages might have cost serious money but he didn't negotiate those. Home games against Hull, West Ham, Norwich, Sunderland, Palace, Villa all still to play before his sacking, I think we might have done it.

Well said.

I second that and I have to say there's some utter crap in this topic, Malky got given a job to do and without a doubt more than succeeded in what he was asked to do, the Dictator had to take responsibility for the down fall of our club

Wigan fans disagree annis

If Malky was as good as people make out why has been out of work for so long?

Hmmmmmmm

Wigan fans disagree annis

Annis blinded by a fist pump and a Santa Claus outfit as far as Malkys concerned Deano

Massively overated manager.

Ranks alongside Owen Coyle, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown.etc as a manager who had one or two good seasons in the Championship amongst several average to poor seasons and thinks he can dine out on it forever.

Got off to a good start and faded badly at Watford. Sean Dyche was his assistant and has gone on to prove hes twice the manager Malky is / was.

Did well overall here but had plenty of money to spend on wages (first season) and both wages and transfer fees (2nd and third season).

Wigan - Truly awful.

In short if Malky hasnt got a decent budget hes crap.

Disagree with most of this (as I would as a fan of Malky's time at the club)

Most City fans agree that the DJ team the end of the last decade was our best side in recent years, yet that side couldn't get out of the Championship in those 'average to poor' seasons.

The only reason the Championship is better than it was then (if it is) is because of the parachute payment money creating unfair advantages with PL sides keeping most of their players and even adding some. It's an unfair advantage and stifles competitiveness. Yes, some managers had lucky seasons but then some also had a bit of magic which they have since lost (arguably happening to Mourinho atm)

Your last comment is untrue as Malky did well at Watford with no budget at all as the team went into administration during his first season. The reason they faded was because of a lack of budget to strengthen the squad.

I'm neither a fan of Malky nor Dave Jones but I do have a soft spot for Dave due to the horrendous nightmare he suffered while at Southampton.

Malky had limited tactical nous but so did Dave Jones. Malky knew how to connect with the fans, Dave didn't. However Malky's judgement on team selection was abysmal (particularly in the Premier) Dave's was somewhat better overall.

But the one area that Malky excells way over Dave is in man management. The infamous Middleborough match still rankles with me and my guess is Malky wouldn't have let that happen.

You are talking about two managers who oversaw this clubs greatest period of success in probably the last 80 years, the only two managers who have taken us to major cup finals since 1927 with one also winning the Championship with one going mighty close to promotion a few years running.

I presume by team selection you mean 'transfers'?? Again these were two very successful managers for us. Even in transfers the only signings Malky seriously lost money on were Cornelius and Maynard.

DJ did all of his work with very little money and compared to some of our rivals in 2011-2013 we were not spending much more than other teams under Malky either. Blackburn shelled out £8m on Rhodes in summer 2012 so the days of gambling to get to PL had begun.

I think you won't find many City fans willing to support harsh criticism of the main protagonists of our most successful seasons in living memory.

In fact, though some may not admit it, it's Warnocks similarities to Malky that lead to his massive support amongst the fanbase.

No by team selection I mean just that. Nothing to do with the transfers. I didn't want to bring that in the mix; that would be unfair. I just wanted to compare like for like.

It's obvious Malky's disaster at Wigan was because of one man. Tan couldn't allow Malky to concentrate on his job and Tan's disruption had a negative effect on everyone at Wigan; from Malky, to Dave Whelan, to the players, Tan turned Wigan into a complete circus full of uncertainty. Wigan was anything but a settled football club and it was impossible for Malky to turn Wigan's fortunes around under those circumstances.

How anyone can say Malky only succeeded with backing with us is laughable though. Malky took us to the Carling Cup final and playoffs in his first season where he spent very little. He took over a squad of 10 professionals and assembled our squad with mostly free transfers. Malky's work in his first season enabled us to walk the Championship by 8 points second season with a bit of financial backing.

We were also well on course to surviving our first season in the Premiership until Tan interfered. Liverpool and Chelsea were the only top half Premiership teams left to play at home in the second half of the season and I have no doubt Malky would have got us at least a few more wins at home than Ole managed, which would have been enough for survival.

There is still no evidence of Malky milking our club dry, Cornelius was obviously a bad signing but Malky had no control over the transfer fee and wages. Cornelius had just won the Danish young player of the year award and had just broken into the Danish national team when we signed him. Unfortunately it didn't work out, but to say the transfer fee and wages was all Malky's doing is nonsense.

If Malky was really a racist, would Kim have signed for him a second time? Would Caulker and Fraizer Campbell stick up for him? The amount of bitterness towards Malky is astonishing considering there isn't a shred of evidence. Unfortunately, some of us have been manipulated by Tan. I will always remember Malky as our greatest manager during my life time and if it's proven in the future that Malky was out of order, I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

If we stayed up we would possibly still be playing in red .so maybe relegation was a blessing in disguise?.

Malkay style of football was the reason i stopped going utter crap

Tan to blame for Malky being so guff at Wigan. I've heard it all now

If he was this great football manager he'd be back in the game by now. The fact he isn't speaks better volumes.

Another in a long list of mediocre managers who enjoyed some short term success.

Tan to blame for Malky being so guff at Wigan. I've heard it all now

If he was this great football manager he'd be back in the game by now. The fact he isn't speaks better volumes.

Another in a long list of mediocre managers who enjoyed some short term success.

Was thinking the same. How the f**k can anyone blame Tan for another clubs failure is beyond me. I mean, I know a lot of fans here hate Tan with a passion but come on, blaming him for Malky being an absolute failure at Wigan takes the biscuit.

don't know what happened at wigan, but the team mackay put together in the 2012/13 season was right up there. in his first season, almost every signing he made was a success.

we had an iffy PL spell under him, and he clearly did poorly at wigan, but its because of the racism issue that he is not getting a job IMO. he is a bit two faced, and good at playing the fans and media, but that does not detract from the fact he hasn't become a poor manager after one terrible half season or so.

look at the way sparky has bounced back after his debacle at QPR, for instance.

the main problem for managers like mackay is that because of the way PL clubs are sacking homegrown managers and looking abroad to replace them, you get high profile managers like pearson and monk taking the mid table championship clubs. it is definitely a buyers market when looking for a manager in the english league system at the moment.

If anyone was given the money Malky was people like DJ would have taken us up, his first season will live in the memory but to have the players disposal in the promotion season and play the football we did was atrocious, we was flying top of the league and still played negative football.. 'oh he taken us up' yes spending 20 million in total with fees and wages.

The funny part is how people actually believe he would have kept us up when he won 3 home games and 1 away in half the season.. he was never keeping us up.