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' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:56 am

Why is it after every manager is sacked at Cardiff City,the next manager or pundit makes the excuses that our players are not fit enough? ? ?
To be fair to Neil Warnock he's not complaining or blaming anyone else.

I don't think they are unfit,I just don't think Paul Trollope knew what he was doing and Slade's ability was limited to get them higher up the Championships.

Opinions?



SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY WERE FITTER, BUT WARNOCK WILL GET CARDIFF THERE

Says Nathan Blake

The game finished 1-1, but I'm convinced that had it been played a month or so down the line Cardiff would have emerged victorious.

I say that despite being hugely impressed with Wednesday, their movement, clever rotation of positions in the field and the fact that they are top six certainties in the making.

Man for man, though, they are not better than Cardiff. The biggest difference was fitness. Wednesday had it, Cardiff are not yet at the level where Warnock will want them to be.

But the new boss will get them there and once Cardiff have that side to their game too, watch them go.

In the first 50 minutes the other night, you could see the brilliant tactical work done by Warnock and his assistants Kevin Blackwell and Ronnie Jepson come to fruition. They wouldn't let Wednesday get over halfway, squeezed their space, closed down and frustrated them.

Warnock's demanding nature will get Cardiff's players fitter
But Cardiff couldn't keep up that tempo and Wednesday's superior fitness, as opposed to superior ability, meant they got on top.

But it will come with Cardiff. Under Warnock they are playing a faster game and have to run harder. They'll be doing that in training, too, so the fitness will be built up naturally.

And that's what we're looking for from this side. We're not talking about a team just to get away from relegation, but one to genuinely challenge for the top six. For that you have to run harder and faster, be sharper of mind. Do that and the wins will come

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:46 am

Just realised it's by Nathan Blake - he talks such gaffe he should work for The Sun.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:12 pm

bluebird58 wrote:Just realised it's by Nathan Blake - he talks such gaffe he should work for The Sun.


:lol:


I agree :lol:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:51 pm

I think NB is making a good point. We definitely faded in the second half and some players such as Lambert were really struggling. Under PT we did try to play a more controlled game where the game tempo was slow. Against Bristol City the tempo was very fast and we followed that up 5 days later with another high tempo game.

Personally I don't think the players were fit enough for 2 games in such a short space of time at such a high tempo.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:07 pm

It was a strange pre-season. Paul Trollope was away with Wales, as was the 'performance' bloke, Ryland Morgans. When they got back, the priority seemed to be the new system. The choice of friendlies was uninspiring, to say the least. Perhaps it's catching up with us. Remember that Wednesday played on Sunday, giving us two days extra to prepare. We looked tired in the second half, while they seemed to perk up.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:02 pm

According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:05 pm

Double G wrote:According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out


Sounds very plausible. The whole point of fitness training for footballers is to get them fit for 90 minutes on match day. Plus the 7 and 5 minutes injury time, (or whatever it's called now), that we have had in our last two games. Other than that, it's all about ball work and tactics.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:28 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:
Double G wrote:According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out


Sounds very plausible. The whole point of fitness training for footballers is to get them fit for 90 minutes on match day. Plus the 7 and 5 minutes injury time, (or whatever it's called now), that we have had in our last two games. Other than that, it's all about ball work and tactics.

Wrong. It's about progressing fitness up to Christmas, and then maintaining it the best you can throughout the season.. it's not possible to start the campaign fit as as fiddle, and remain that way.. it will peak several times, and the trick is not to dip to much. Not an easy task when you have twenty plus individuals.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:31 pm

Double G wrote:According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out


Interesting, Cheers Gareth.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:50 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
Double G wrote:According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out


Sounds very plausible. The whole point of fitness training for footballers is to get them fit for 90 minutes on match day. Plus the 7 and 5 minutes injury time, (or whatever it's called now), that we have had in our last two games. Other than that, it's all about ball work and tactics.

Wrong. It's about progressing fitness up to Christmas, and then maintaining it the best you can throughout the season.. it's not possible to start the campaign fit as as fiddle, and remain that way.. it will peak several times, and the trick is not to dip to much. Not an easy task when you have twenty plus individuals.


You sound like OGS. Might work that way in Norway, or somewhere, but no good fading in the second half in Championship matches.

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:59 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
Double G wrote:According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out


Sounds very plausible. The whole point of fitness training for footballers is to get them fit for 90 minutes on match day. Plus the 7 and 5 minutes injury time, (or whatever it's called now), that we have had in our last two games. Other than that, it's all about ball work and tactics.

Wrong. It's about progressing fitness up to Christmas, and then maintaining it the best you can throughout the season.. it's not possible to start the campaign fit as as fiddle, and remain that way.. it will peak several times, and the trick is not to dip to much. Not an easy task when you have twenty plus individuals.


You sound like OGS. Might work that way in Norway, or somewhere, but no good fading in the second half in Championship matches.

:lol: No mate, that's how the human body work, and how you make the most of it. Welcome to the 21'st century :ayatollah:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:16 pm

llangainbluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
Double G wrote:According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out


Sounds very plausible. The whole point of fitness training for footballers is to get them fit for 90 minutes on match day. Plus the 7 and 5 minutes injury time, (or whatever it's called now), that we have had in our last two games. Other than that, it's all about ball work and tactics.

Wrong. It's about progressing fitness up to Christmas, and then maintaining it the best you can throughout the season.. it's not possible to start the campaign fit as as fiddle, and remain that way.. it will peak several times, and the trick is not to dip to much. Not an easy task when you have twenty plus individuals.


You sound like OGS. Might work that way in Norway, or somewhere, but no good fading in the second half in Championship matches.


Mate I think he is OGS or he is paying him to write utter crap. :laughing6:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:58 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
llangainbluebird wrote:
Double G wrote:According to a friend of mine up the Vale, a lot of the blame has gone to Ryland Morgan for overworking players and wearing them out


Sounds very plausible. The whole point of fitness training for footballers is to get them fit for 90 minutes on match day. Plus the 7 and 5 minutes injury time, (or whatever it's called now), that we have had in our last two games. Other than that, it's all about ball work and tactics.

Wrong. It's about progressing fitness up to Christmas, and then maintaining it the best you can throughout the season.. it's not possible to start the campaign fit as as fiddle, and remain that way.. it will peak several times, and the trick is not to dip to much. Not an easy task when you have twenty plus individuals.


You sound like OGS. Might work that way in Norway, or somewhere, but no good fading in the second half in Championship matches.


Mate I think he is OGS or he is paying him to write utter crap. :laughing6:


:ayatollah:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:08 pm

:lol: Back to school boys, dont skip anatomy class this time arround :laughing6:

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:02 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote::lol: Back to school boys, dont skip anatomy class this time arround :laughing6:


I can see what you mean,I attended a norweigian premier league game this season between Alesund & Brann whilst visiting family out there, the standart isn't too far below from championship level and there was no fitness issue there

Re: ' CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS UNFIT? ? ? '

Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:48 am

adamt958 wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote::lol: Back to school boys, dont skip anatomy class this time arround :laughing6:


I can see what you mean,I attended a norweigian premier league game this season between Alesund & Brann whilst visiting family out there, the standart isn't too far below from championship level and there was no fitness issue there

I mean you can't build a season long fitness structure in 5 weeks. It's only something to build on, and then try to maintain. I also watched Brann one game this season. Thought they where slow, lacked precision and was pretty poor. At no point would I say they could cope with championship football.