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" CHED EVANS NO EVIDENCE SO "

Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:40 pm

Ched Evans has been found NOT GUILTY of rape.

SKY NEWS

Never alledged rape
There was no crime scene
There was no DNA

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:45 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/ched-evans-no ... l-10616934

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:48 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37659009

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:51 pm

I wonder what the reaction will be from all the people (jessica ennis etc.) Who ridiculed him and stopped him getting his career back.

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:56 pm

Sign him up!

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:59 pm

Compo compo Evans now

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:59 pm

Nickoblue23 wrote:I wonder what the reaction will be from all the people (jessica ennis etc.) Who ridiculed him and stopped him getting his career back.

agree

Re: " CHED EVANS NOT GUILTY "

Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:11 pm

Whole case stank from start to finish justice served

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:16 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:Whole case stank from start to finish justice served



Agreed the whole thing was a joke. That whore should go to prison.

Happy for ched

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:21 pm

nubbsy wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Whole case stank from start to finish justice served



Agreed the whole thing was a joke. That whore should go to prison.

Happy for ched


In order for someone to be convicted of rape There 3 things to consider and I don't know how he was even convicted first time around as all 3 were never proven beyond doubt

Makes a farce of the legal system IMO

Feel sorry for women who are genuinely raped and don't get a conviction yet these types of convictions seem to happen far easier

Re: " CHED EVANS NOT GUILTY "

Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:33 pm

People need to read the facts.

She did not go to the police. She never made any allegation of rape. She simply said she had no memory of the previous night. Two people's lives have been ruined here.

If you are looking for someone to blame then it's the Crown Prosecution Service or the initial investigating police officers.

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:34 pm

Get him back in the Welsh squad. Well done Ched. I said back last year we should of signed him and took the chance :ayatollah:

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:37 pm

dadmancat wrote:People need to read the facts.

She did not go to the police. She never made any allegation of rape. She simply said she had no memory of the previous night. Two people's lives have been ruined here.

If you are looking for someone to blame then it's the Crown Prosecution Service or the initial investigating police officers.

totally agree cps pushed this as he's a footballer

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:55 pm

dadmancat wrote:People need to read the facts.

She did not go to the police. She never made any allegation of rape. She simply said she had no memory of the previous night. Two people's lives have been ruined here.

If you are looking for someone to blame then it's the Crown Prosecution Service or the initial investigating police officers.


Hmm I get what your saying but in order for police to have investigated someone would have needed to report the alleged incident

CPS may well have pushed her to go to court for a conviction but she or someone she knew would have had to report the incident in the first place

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:56 pm

Well done ched know get back in the Welsh team

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:04 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
dadmancat wrote:People need to read the facts.

She did not go to the police. She never made any allegation of rape. She simply said she had no memory of the previous night. Two people's lives have been ruined here.

If you are looking for someone to blame then it's the Crown Prosecution Service or the initial investigating police officers.


Hmm I get what your saying but in order for police to have investigated someone would have needed to report the alleged incident

CPS may well have pushed her to go to court for a conviction but she or someone she knew would have had to report the incident in the first place


It was a hotel worker that reported "a commotion" to the Police. They then interviewed Evans and MacDonald who admitted having sex with the girl. The police then interviewed the girl who said she had no memory of the evening.

As I said people really should read the facts before throwing wild accusations about.

As a postscript the one thing to learn for us ALL from this is if you're ever questioned by the Police ALWAYS give a "No Comment" interview. Had Ched done that it wouldn't have even gone to trial.

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:07 pm

Mind you his girlfriend must be very forgiving,he's admitted having sex with this girl,a lot of women would have cut his thing off and booted him out. Though perhaps it's because he was earning good money and she didn't want to lose the lifestyle.

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:20 pm

avondaleblue wrote:Mind you his girlfriend must be very forgiving,he's admitted having sex with this girl,a lot of women would have cut his thing off and booted him out. Though perhaps it's because he was earning good money and she didn't want to lose the lifestyle.



the guys potentially worth millions... nuff said!

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:23 pm

Warnock warnock sign him up :ayatollah:

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Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:19 pm

Its been a very odd case from day one.

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:59 am

This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:05 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.


Cps set the precedent!!

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:22 am

Total and utter scumbag sleaze ball. Just bought himself a not guilty verdict.

I just hope he never plays for Cardiff

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:37 pm

Nickoblue23 wrote:I wonder what the reaction will be from all the people (jessica ennis etc.) Who ridiculed him and stopped him getting his career back.


There were a lot in Sheffield who were quick to have they say :(

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:33 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.


I can't believe your comments here.

There is absolutely no evidence that she was raped. Just that she was drunk and had sex with 2 equally drunk men.

All she has ever reported to the police is that she woke up naked and confused and couldn't remember the night before.

Equally there is no evidence to say it wasn't rape apart from 2 friends matching stories, which must be taken as the truth when giving evidence under oath.

Maybe the 2 men are lying and he did rape her, but equally maybe she is lying about not remembering and what the men are saying is true.

You can not convict someone for the only known fact of 2 people having sex while being drunk.

Have you ever had sex with your wife when both drunk? On these occasions has she given you a clear 'yes'?

Do you ask your wife every time you have sex 'can we have sex?' and get a clear 'yes'?

If you can not answer yes to the last 2 questions, then you are also a rapist

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:23 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.

fair play your a bit of a tool ,you need to read up on the whole recent court notes Ched is not guilty simple as that ,you keep on about people lied but have no evidence yourself to back it up

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:30 pm

sid61284 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.


I can't believe your comments here.

There is absolutely no evidence that she was raped. Just that she was drunk and had sex with 2 equally drunk men.

All she has ever reported to the police is that she woke up naked and confused and couldn't remember the night before.

Equally there is no evidence to say it wasn't rape apart from 2 friends matching stories, which must be taken as the truth when giving evidence under oath.

Maybe the 2 men are lying and he did rape her, but equally maybe she is lying about not remembering and what the men are saying is true.

You can not convict someone for the only known fact of 2 people having sex while being drunk.

Have you ever had sex with your wife when both drunk? On these occasions has she given you a clear 'yes'?

Do you ask your wife every time you have sex 'can we have sex?' and get a clear 'yes'?

If you can not answer yes to the last 2 questions, then you are also a rapist


You call my comments unbelievable?

Firstly Evans was sober and NEVER claimed he was drunk, so you're opinion has got off to an amazingly bad start!

There have been many convictions of rape when the victim has no memory, such as where date rape drugs have been used.

Anyone who is married or has been married knows that if your wife doesn't want sex then she will certainly let you know. If I or anyone forced her we would then be guilty of rape. That was an awful analogy use one of very low intelligence.

Evans has been found not guilty of committing a criminal act.

I stand by my comments he 'bought' his innocence he didn't deserve it and in any case his behaviour in tricking his way into the hotel room and having sex with a drunken stranger whilst being in a long term relationship and leaving covertly via the fire escape is not in dispute (he admitted this). It is an obnoxious way to behave and on those grounds he should NEVER be signed by this club or represent his country again.

Of course you might think that behaviour is OK? That would say more about you than it would about anything else.

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:31 pm

Paulwallace wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.


Cps set the precedent!!


The CPS don't set legal precedence Judges and Juries do that :roll:

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:38 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.

fair play your a bit of a tool ,you need to read up on the whole recent court notes Ched is not guilty simple as that ,you keep on about people lied but have no evidence yourself to back it up


Evans was convicted of rape and that was upheld on appeal. This retrial used evidence from someone who suddenly appeared after reading that Evans was offering £50,000 to anyone who could give evidence which would clear him.

I have read this evidence and the defence managed to manipulate it well enough to give reasonable doubt and therefore Evans was found not guilty. Personally IMO I thought the testimony was shaky at best.

If this 'witness' was so interested in justice then why didn't he come forward before Evans offered £50,000?

BTW Drop the personal attacks last warning. :D

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Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:11 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:This case just proves that British justice is the best that money can buy. Evans is a sexual predator who is rich enough to offer a £50,000 'reward' to anyone willing to lie for him and to hire a lawyer with enough influence to get him a 'not guilty' verdict.

This outcome has put every woman who is drunk and enticed back to a hotel room open to sex with any passing male as it sets the precedence that consent is not required if you are drunk. Those jurors should be totally ashamed of themselves as should that piece of crap Ched Evans.


I can't believe your comments here.

There is absolutely no evidence that she was raped. Just that she was drunk and had sex with 2 equally drunk men.

All she has ever reported to the police is that she woke up naked and confused and couldn't remember the night before.

Equally there is no evidence to say it wasn't rape apart from 2 friends matching stories, which must be taken as the truth when giving evidence under oath.

Maybe the 2 men are lying and he did rape her, but equally maybe she is lying about not remembering and what the men are saying is true.

You can not convict someone for the only known fact of 2 people having sex while being drunk.

Have you ever had sex with your wife when both drunk? On these occasions has she given you a clear 'yes'?

Do you ask your wife every time you have sex 'can we have sex?' and get a clear 'yes'?

If you can not answer yes to the last 2 questions, then you are also a rapist


You call my comments unbelievable?

Firstly Evans was sober and NEVER claimed he was drunk, so you're opinion has got off to an amazingly bad start!

There have been many convictions of rape when the victim has no memory, such as where date rape drugs have been used.

Anyone who is married or has been married knows that if your wife doesn't want sex then she will certainly let you know. If I or anyone forced her we would then be guilty of rape. That was an awful analogy use one of very low intelligence.

Evans has been found not guilty of committing a criminal act.

I stand by my comments he 'bought' his innocence he didn't deserve it and in any case his behaviour in tricking his way into the hotel room and having sex with a drunken stranger whilst being in a long term relationship and leaving covertly via the fire escape is not in dispute (he admitted this). It is an obnoxious way to behave and on those grounds he should NEVER be signed by this club or represent his country again.

Of course you might think that behaviour is OK? That would say more about you than it would about anything else.


There's a difference between his behaviour and actual rape.

Like I said you look at the facts and he did not rape her. She gave her consent, when McDonald asked if Ched could 'have a go'she replied yes.

Nobody has said she didn't want sex. What I asked is do you get a clear 'yes'every time you have sex?

How did he trick his way in to hotel room that was booked in his name?

Yes his actions ain't what you would accept from a man in a relationship.

But all he is guilty of from the evidence heard is having sex with a drunk girl, who was clearly up for it, asking him to perform oral sex on her, bending over in to doggy style position and telling Ched to 'f**k me harder'.

Doesn't sound like rape to me