' IS PAUL TROLLOPE LIKELY TO STAY? '

' IS PAUL TROLLOPE LIKELY TO STAY? '
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Is Cardiff City Manager Paul Trollope likely to be in charge after the international break?


The Bluebirds Committee had hoped Paul Trollope could bring some of the Wales magic to Cardiff City.

There is another meeting planned this week with Tans committee and Trollope.


What will be a major concern is the reaction of the Cardiff City fans, who have stuck with their ailing side this season but finally snapped on the terraces Burton Albion yesterday.

Cardiff City fans sang "Getting sacked in the morning" "Trollope for England" and "Trollope Out"


The club cannot afford home attendances to drop further and there is already a growing sense of apathy in the fanbase.

Cardiff City currently have 11,500 season ticket holders this season,but even though the current home average on paper are currently about 14,500,their has actually been attendances as low as 10,500 in actual attendances at the Cardiff City Stadium,resulting in many part-time jobs being reduced by club senior staff.

With ticket sales low,Sponsorship down considerably and merchandise sales down by more than half on last season,CEO Ken Choo will be told by owner Vincent Tan to make en more cut backs as already the club is still losing £1million a month.





Can Cardiff City afford to bring another manager?

If Paul Trollope is sacked this month or next month,will Tan give the managers job to Lennie Lawrence,a youth team manager or even an Academy manager?


Paul Trollope was central to their plans for the new 'Bluebirds Way' and they have not just invested in him, but his philosophy, 'way of working' and his backroom staff.

The sense has been that they would be loathe to make such an early change and clearly, there are significant financial implications too.

Vincent Tan chose Paul Trollope himself and hates to be proven wrong.




Say they brought in an outsider?

What happens if their preferred candidate wants to bring in their own backroom staff? What happens in January when the new boss would want to make his own mark on the squad?


All in all, they will want Trollope to prove he can make the 'Bluebirds Way'.

Bluebirds chiefs had hoped Trollope could bring some of the Wales magic to Cardiff


It was said before the Rotherham game that Trollope would get a 'fair' amount of time. By that, did they mean these three games against sides in the lower half of the league?

Perhaps they were looking to the next international break in November, by which time they will have played Bristol City, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Wigan Athletic and Newcastle United.

At that point, Cardiff will have played their fair share of games and there will be no doubt in what Paul Trollope can achieve.

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I can see Trollope going in the next couple of days he's had his chance to turn it around but keeps picking the same team and out of form players.

If they brought in someone who had experience and knew the Division it may cost them a bit!

However taking us into League 1 pales into insignificance if they don't!

He needs to go and go now and we need a manager experienced at this level and there are plenty available. The club also need to be looking for a couple, or more, free agents and in particular those with pace, power and experience in forward positions with Championship football.

Junior Hoilett and Ishmael Millar are a couple and surely offering them a contract until January, or a least a trial, would'nt break the bank. Gonougbe and Zohore maybe players for the future but whoever is manager, coach or whatever they need more options to buy them time to look at the forward positions again in January.

Whatever the club must get an agreement in January for Saadi to return and as VT owns both clubs it cannot be difficult to arrange that.

First things first though, thanks but no thanks Paul.

If they're going to give him until the next international then by that time we may well be adrift from safety.

Those games mentioned, with Trollope in charge, will yield no more than one or maybe two points if we're lucky.

At the rate we are shipping goals, the goal difference will be like losing another point and the ground will be empty except for those calling for Trollope's head.

All in all, great PR for the club!

With due respect I think you're all missing the point here. Tan has given up on City and is spending as little money as possible. Trollope was not the best option available but the cheapest one. The only chance he had of getting a decent return on his investment was to get a quick return to the Premier League and clearly that opportunity has gone. If he remains at the Club he will be better off financial in League 1 than the Championship.

If anyone thinks that a tyrant like Tan will have forgotten that he was forced to change the club colours back to blue then you're being very naive. He probably thinks that we are ungrateful for all he has invested in the Club and this is his revenge.

I really hope I'm wrong, but I think we're stuck with Trollope and almost certainly, League 1 football next season.

I can see Trollope going in the next couple of days he's had his chance to turn it around but keeps picking the same team and out of form players.

I think you're wrong.

With due respect I think you're all missing the point here. Tan has given up on City and is spending as little money as possible. Trollope was not the best option available but the cheapest one. The only chance he had of getting a decent return on his investment was to get a quick return to the Premier League and clearly that opportunity has gone. If he remains at the Club he will be better off financial in League 1 than the Championship.

If anyone thinks that a tyrant like Tan will have forgotten that he was forced to change the club colours back to blue then you're being very naive. He probably thinks that we are ungrateful for all he has invested in the Club and this is his revenge.

I really hope I'm wrong, but I think we're stuck with Trollope and almost certainly, League 1 football next season.

Some points I agree on but of course if we were relegated,the club would be cheaper to run in the 1 St division,but how much value would that wipe off the club?????

I can see Trollope going in the next couple of days he's had his chance to turn it around but keeps picking the same team and out of form players.

I think you're wrong.

You know something we don't?

With due respect I think you're all missing the point here. Tan has given up on City and is spending as little money as possible. Trollope was not the best option available but the cheapest one. The only chance he had of getting a decent return on his investment was to get a quick return to the Premier League and clearly that opportunity has gone. If he remains at the Club he will be better off financial in League 1 than the Championship.

If anyone thinks that a tyrant like Tan will have forgotten that he was forced to change the club colours back to blue then you're being very naive. He probably thinks that we are ungrateful for all he has invested in the Club and this is his revenge.

I really hope I'm wrong, but I think we're stuck with Trollope and almost certainly, League 1 football next season.

Some points I agree on but of course if we were relegated,the club would be cheaper to run in the 1 St division,but how much value would that wipe off the club?????

If the figures quoted on the loans Tan has made to Club are correct, then he will only recover a very small potion of these loans if he sold now or if we were in League 1. The problem would be for City is if he decided to walk away and wanted his money back!


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I don't think we can afford a new manager. I'm pretty sure any pay off to the existing manager and salary of the new manager would affect the FFP rules, and I'm pretty sure this was already finely balanced.

' IS PAUL TROLLOPE LIKELY TO STAY? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2016/10/0 ... y-to-stay/


Is Cardiff City Manager Paul Trollope likely to be in charge after the international break?


The Bluebirds Committee had hoped Paul Trollope could bring some of the Wales magic to Cardiff City.

There is another meeting planned this week with Tans committee and Trollope.


What will be a major concern is the reaction of the Cardiff City fans, who have stuck with their ailing side this season but finally snapped on the terraces Burton Albion yesterday.

Cardiff City fans sang "Getting sacked in the morning" "Trollope for England" and "Trollope Out"


The club cannot afford home attendances to drop further and there is already a growing sense of apathy in the fanbase.

Cardiff City currently have 11,500 season ticket holders this season,but even though the current home average on paper are currently about 14,500,their has actually been attendances as low as 10,500 in actual attendances at the Cardiff City Stadium,resulting in many part-time jobs being reduced by club senior staff.

With ticket sales low,Sponsorship down considerably and merchandise sales down by more than half on last season,CEO Ken Choo will be told by owner Vincent Tan to make en more cut backs as already the club is still losing £1million a month.





Can Cardiff City afford to bring another manager?

If Paul Trollope is sacked this month or next month,will Tan give the managers job to Lennie Lawrence,a youth team manager or even an Academy manager?


Paul Trollope was central to their plans for the new 'Bluebirds Way' and they have not just invested in him, but his philosophy, 'way of working' and his backroom staff.

The sense has been that they would be loathe to make such an early change and clearly, there are significant financial implications too.

Vincent Tan chose Paul Trollope himself and hates to be proven wrong.




Say they brought in an outsider?

What happens if their preferred candidate wants to bring in their own backroom staff? What happens in January when the new boss would want to make his own mark on the squad?


All in all, they will want Trollope to prove he can make the 'Bluebirds Way'.

Bluebirds chiefs had hoped Trollope could bring some of the Wales magic to Cardiff


It was said before the Rotherham game that Trollope would get a 'fair' amount of time. By that, did they mean these three games against sides in the lower half of the league?

Perhaps they were looking to the next international break in November, by which time they will have played Bristol City, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Wigan Athletic and Newcastle United.

At that point, Cardiff will have played their fair share of games and there will be no doubt in what Paul Trollope can achieve.

Annis I think Tan will dig his heels in and stick with Trollope , do you think he will get rid of him

Can't see why Tan would get rid of Trollope, we are talking about a multi billionaire that can right off hundreds of million pounds against tax just to make us stew in our own blue juices. If we drop to league two financially in the long run it won't effect Tan,s businesses

Can't see why Tan would get rid of Trollope, we are talking about a multi billionaire that can right off hundreds of million pounds against tax just to make us stew in our own blue juices. If we drop to league two financially in the long run it won't effect Tan,s businesses

Why would he want us to drop to L2?! He is a business man and frankly and very successful one; for the most part successful business men become successful because they are winners.

I remember an interview where he said people close to him told him he was 'crazy' to invest and would just lose mone, but he knew he could make this work.. The only way for him to make money is to either make the club sustainable and sell or push for promotion and sell. Either way being in L2 isn't going to make it an attractive proposition for any buyer meaning he is would lose money, so why on earth would he be actively trying to make that happen. Successful business men don't like losing money and £100m is not small change to anyone.

The answer for me is simpler and been said many times - he hasn't found the balance between running this as a business and a football club, meaning we've had a complete lack of senior football people and knowledge here under his stewardship meaning it's been one bad decision after another. When RA went into Chelsea he surrounded his self with outstanding football people - the same with the owners at Man City. Ironically, whilst he had his many faults we actually had a half decent football person here in Ridsdale.

What no one has pointed out is Tan saw fit to create a position in the summer that would ensure more football experience between the playing side and the board, with the role for Slade. As soon as he quit, it should have been a priority to fill this role and it should still be a priority now, along with finding a replacement for Trollope who should never have been given his role in the first place..

Can't see why Tan would get rid of Trollope, we are talking about a multi billionaire that can right off hundreds of million pounds against tax just to make us stew in our own blue juices. If we drop to league two financially in the long run it won't effect Tan,s businesses

Why would he want us to drop to L2?! He is a business man and frankly and very successful one; for the most part successful business men become successful because they are winners.

I remember an interview where he said people close to him told him he was 'crazy' to invest and would just lose mone, but he knew he could make this work.. The only way for him to make money is to either make the club sustainable and sell or push for promotion and sell. Either way being in L2 isn't going to make it an attractive proposition for any buyer meaning he is would lose money, so why on earth would he be actively trying to make that happen. Successful business men don't like losing money and £100m is not small change to anyone.

The answer for me is simpler and been said many times - he hasn't found the balance between running this as a business and a football club, meaning we've had a complete lack of senior football people and knowledge here under his stewardship meaning it's been one bad decision after another. When RA went into Chelsea he surrounded his self with outstanding football people - the same with the owners at Man City. Ironically, whilst he had his many faults we actually had a half decent football person here in Ridsdale.

What no one has pointed out is Tan saw fit to create a position in the summer that would ensure more football experience between the playing side and the board, with the role for Slade. As soon as he quit, it should have been a priority to fill this role and it should still be a priority now, along with finding a replacement for Trollope who should never have been given his role in the first place..

The reason he didn't replace Slade after he left is because the position was a sham in the first place. Simply created the position so as not to lose face by sacking Slade.

' IS PAUL TROLLOPE LIKELY TO STAY? '
Link
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/2016/10/0 ... y-to-stay/


Is Cardiff City Manager Paul Trollope likely to be in charge after the international break?


The Bluebirds Committee had hoped Paul Trollope could bring some of the Wales magic to Cardiff City.

There is another meeting planned this week with Tans committee and Trollope.


What will be a major concern is the reaction of the Cardiff City fans, who have stuck with their ailing side this season but finally snapped on the terraces Burton Albion yesterday.

Cardiff City fans sang "Getting sacked in the morning" "Trollope for England" and "Trollope Out"


The club cannot afford home attendances to drop further and there is already a growing sense of apathy in the fanbase.

Cardiff City currently have 11,500 season ticket holders this season,but even though the current home average on paper are currently about 14,500,their has actually been attendances as low as 10,500 in actual attendances at the Cardiff City Stadium,resulting in many part-time jobs being reduced by club senior staff.

With ticket sales low,Sponsorship down considerably and merchandise sales down by more than half on last season,CEO Ken Choo will be told by owner Vincent Tan to make en more cut backs as already the club is still losing £1million a month.





Can Cardiff City afford to bring another manager?

If Paul Trollope is sacked this month or next month,will Tan give the managers job to Lennie Lawrence,a youth team manager or even an Academy manager?


Paul Trollope was central to their plans for the new 'Bluebirds Way' and they have not just invested in him, but his philosophy, 'way of working' and his backroom staff.

The sense has been that they would be loathe to make such an early change and clearly, there are significant financial implications too.

Vincent Tan chose Paul Trollope himself and hates to be proven wrong.




Say they brought in an outsider?

What happens if their preferred candidate wants to bring in their own backroom staff? What happens in January when the new boss would want to make his own mark on the squad?


All in all, they will want Trollope to prove he can make the 'Bluebirds Way'.

Bluebirds chiefs had hoped Trollope could bring some of the Wales magic to Cardiff


It was said before the Rotherham game that Trollope would get a 'fair' amount of time. By that, did they mean these three games against sides in the lower half of the league?

Perhaps they were looking to the next international break in November, by which time they will have played Bristol City, Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest, Wigan Athletic and Newcastle United.

At that point, Cardiff will have played their fair share of games and there will be no doubt in what Paul Trollope can achieve.

Annis I think Tan will dig his heels in and stick with Trollope , do you think he will get rid of him

I have thought about that and I could see him letting Trollope stay till Xmas.

He could demote Trollope back to coach which may suit both parties,but the new managerwould have to agree to this.

Can't see why Tan would get rid of Trollope, we are talking about a multi billionaire that can right off hundreds of million pounds against tax just to make us stew in our own blue juices. If we drop to league two financially in the long run it won't effect Tan,s businesses

Why would he want us to drop to L2?! He is a business man and frankly and very successful one; for the most part successful business men become successful because they are winners.

I remember an interview where he said people close to him told him he was 'crazy' to invest and would just lose mone, but he knew he could make this work.. The only way for him to make money is to either make the club sustainable and sell or push for promotion and sell. Either way being in L2 isn't going to make it an attractive proposition for any buyer meaning he is would lose money, so why on earth would he be actively trying to make that happen. Successful business men don't like losing money and £100m is not small change to anyone.

The answer for me is simpler and been said many times - he hasn't found the balance between running this as a business and a football club, meaning we've had a complete lack of senior football people and knowledge here under his stewardship meaning it's been one bad decision after another. When RA went into Chelsea he surrounded his self with outstanding football people - the same with the owners at Man City. Ironically, whilst he had his many faults we actually had a half decent football person here in Ridsdale.

What no one has pointed out is Tan saw fit to create a position in the summer that would ensure more football experience between the playing side and the board, with the role for Slade. As soon as he quit, it should have been a priority to fill this role and it should still be a priority now, along with finding a replacement for Trollope who should never have been given his role in the first place..

The reason he didn't replace Slade after he left is because the position was a sham in the first place. Simply created the position so as not to lose face by sacking Slade.[/quote

Wasn't Slade's contract up though - so he wouldn't have had to sack him. I totally agree it was a sham role, hence why I believe this is one of the things that Tan does get wrong time after time.

All up to Tan

With due respect I think you're all missing the point here. Tan has given up on City and is spending as little money as possible. Trollope was not the best option available but the cheapest one. The only chance he had of getting a decent return on his investment was to get a quick return to the Premier League and clearly that opportunity has gone. If he remains at the Club he will be better off financial in League 1 than the Championship.

If anyone thinks that a tyrant like Tan will have forgotten that he was forced to change the club colours back to blue then you're being very naive. He probably thinks that we are ungrateful for all he has invested in the Club and this is his revenge.

I really hope I'm wrong, but I think we're stuck with Trollope and almost certainly, League 1 football next season.

Agree with this and if what Annis is saying is true then if pt does get the sack and tan goes for another cheap option like an accadamy coach then it's league one next year.
I have always felt when we changed back to blue tan was forced to do it he had to but in doing so he then gave up on Cardiff city it felt like a punishment. I never agreed to red I had a season ticket I was never asked once my view on it I hated it never wanted red and if it meant no money to that was my choice .now we have blue he seems to have given up on us .so there are fans like me out there who have Been through a lot of crap and unfairly.
Tan believed a small number of fans who said yes invest change the colour we all agree well we bloody didn't and tan is to blame for all of it .I stuck by my club no matter what pain I had about the red and it hurt I still stick by my club but it's fair to say tan has ruined us now come full circle hasn't he.
Anyway got to go to work but I'm not happy

100% he will stay, Tan will think "why should I sack him"?

I can see Trollope going in the next couple of days he's had his chance to turn it around but keeps picking the same team and out of form players.

I think you're wrong.

You were saying?