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Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:24 pm

Thoughts.

Do you think that the Muslim faith can truly mix with western culture.
For example in the West we tend to enjoy a drink, women wear short skirts and we don't generally take religion as serious as maybe 100 years ago.

Can Islam and the Western culture live side by side as the best of friends ?

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:27 pm

my first employer was Muslim, paper-round :ayatollah:

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:31 pm

ThomasC wrote:my first employer was Muslim, paper-round :ayatollah:


Yes that's good, but I asked can we mix in peace while our differences are so big

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:35 pm

Yes we can easily live side by side and have done for years. Problems occur when you have Islamic extremists and retards like Britain first and the BNP. These people are all on the fringes of society

All the Muslims I know and count as friends are not real Muslims in the eyes of the extremists. You would be surprised at the amount of young Muslims who do not give a shit about the "rules" and don't obey Ramadan and drink alcohol.

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:44 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Yes we can easily live side by side and have done for years. Problems occur when you have Islamic extremists and retards like Britain first and the BNP. These people are all on the fringes of society

All the Muslims I know and count as friends are not real Muslims in the eyes of the extremists. You would be surprised at the amount of young Muslims who do not give a shit about the "rules" and don't obey Ramadan and drink alcohol.


I know that but are they Muslims if not abiding by their rules ?
Can real Muslims mix

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:46 pm

shinyBlueGlue wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Yes we can easily live side by side and have done for years. Problems occur when you have Islamic extremists and retards like Britain first and the BNP. These people are all on the fringes of society

All the Muslims I know and count as friends are not real Muslims in the eyes of the extremists. You would be surprised at the amount of young Muslims who do not give a shit about the "rules" and don't obey Ramadan and drink alcohol.


I know that but are they Muslims if not abiding by their rules ?
Can real Muslims mix


Do you want to mix with them?

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:03 pm

shinyBlueGlue wrote:Thoughts.

Do you think that the Muslim faith can truly mix with western culture.
For example in the West we tend to enjoy a drink, women wear short skirts and we don't generally take religion as serious as maybe 100 years ago.

Can Islam and the Western culture live side by side as the best of friends ?


The simple answer to your question is NO! The problem is the numbers, when their populations grow into the millions then the problems start!!

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:08 pm

shinyBlueGlue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:my first employer was Muslim, paper-round :ayatollah:


Yes that's good, but I asked can we mix in peace while our differences are so big


We do mix with peace, well I can't say all around the world different religions or cultures are completely peaceful. But that's more down to the human being them self than it is to the religion or culture. Terrorism isn't down what religion the person was, the person who commited the act wanted to out of his own reasons not the religions.

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:25 pm

I mix with anyone. Question is if they belive in something that you don't. will this friendship be strained.

I know Muslims myself and seen the good and the bad just like any religion I suppose

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:32 pm

Theblues2 wrote:
shinyBlueGlue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:my first employer was Muslim, paper-round :ayatollah:


Yes that's good, but I asked can we mix in peace while our differences are so big


Terrorism isn't down what religion the person was, the person who commited the act wanted to out of his own reasons not the religions.

You really haven't got a handle on this have you, ISIS AlQeda, Boko Haram, Al Shabab etc have everything to do with fundamentalist Islam, the poison emanates from Whabbi crackpots in Saudi who fund Mosques and send Imans all over the World
This is not like ETA or the Provos, it's not about a bit of land, these Fundamentalists want a universal caliphate under Sharia Law. Them the facts.

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:45 pm

Theblues2 wrote:
shinyBlueGlue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:my first employer was Muslim, paper-round :ayatollah:


Yes that's good, but I asked can we mix in peace while our differences are so big


We do mix with peace, well I can't say all around the world different religions or cultures are completely peaceful. But that's more down to the human being them self than it is to the religion or culture. Terrorism isn't down what religion the person was, the person who commited the act wanted to out of his own reasons not the religions.



I think religion can be blamed, there are many tainted versions of each practice and It's a prehistoric way of thinking. It's holding back human evolution and has been used as a population control method since the very first civilizations.

Just last week In Peckham I saw about 5/6 Muslim guys hate preaching on the street with a microphone. preaching about the "evil of the white man and western culture" and then some crazy African christian woman started shouting about Jesus Christ and how Muslims don't belong here. And these are suppose to be the self proclaimed god loving, law obeying children of god/Allah. But instead their desperately scampering over each other to get into heaven. But what more can you expect from a sess pit like Peckham and many other London suburbs? These extreme ideologies pray on the dregs of society.

So to answer your question, in some places different cultures will co-exist successfully but there will never be total peace as long as religious ideas are still preached and studied here in the UK. We'll either evolve out of it, or the UK will be in tatters in years to come.

Re: Can we Islam mix

Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:11 pm

no