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The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:33 pm

Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:27 pm

Why play a system or formation that will suit players you buy in the future?

Don't you play the formation and style that will suit the players we have now?

Right now, we need to be a lump it up the middle bog-standard 4-4-2. But I fear Trollope prefers words like "philosophy" rather than "results".

We don't have the players to play any other formation right now as the wise ones in charge of the club moved on our two best wing backs and brought in a full back and an injured wing back.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:41 pm

BrightBlueFuture wrote:Why play a system or formation that will suit players you buy in the future?

Don't you play the formation and style that will suit the players we have now?

Right now, we need to be a lump it up the middle bog-standard 4-4-2. But I fear Trollope prefers words like "philosophy" rather than "results".

We don't have the players to play any other formation right now as the wise ones in charge of the club moved on our two best wing backs and brought in a full back and an injured wing back.


The squad is unbalanced and 442 maybe is the way for now but I would still give the 433 a chance as I did see improvements on Sat :thumbright: and by Jan hopefully Trollope will be backed to bring in some pacey players finally. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:51 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:


I doubt he will get one transfer window, let alone two.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:55 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Why play a system or formation that will suit players you buy in the future?

Don't you play the formation and style that will suit the players we have now?

Right now, we need to be a lump it up the middle bog-standard 4-4-2. But I fear Trollope prefers words like "philosophy" rather than "results".

We don't have the players to play any other formation right now as the wise ones in charge of the club moved on our two best wing backs and brought in a full back and an injured wing back.


The squad is unbalanced and 442 maybe is the way for now but I would still give the 433 a chance as I did see improvements on Sat :thumbright: and by Jan hopefully Trollope will be backed to bring in some pacey players finally. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Problem is we got no money, and come the transfer window the only players available within budget will be lower league rejects.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:57 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Why did the bafoon not use the last window to enhance the squad?

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:59 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:


I doubt he will get one transfer window, let alone two.


If results don't go his way then yep.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:00 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
BrightBlueFuture wrote:Why play a system or formation that will suit players you buy in the future?

Don't you play the formation and style that will suit the players we have now?

Right now, we need to be a lump it up the middle bog-standard 4-4-2. But I fear Trollope prefers words like "philosophy" rather than "results".

We don't have the players to play any other formation right now as the wise ones in charge of the club moved on our two best wing backs and brought in a full back and an injured wing back.


The squad is unbalanced and 442 maybe is the way for now but I would still give the 433 a chance as I did see improvements on Sat :thumbright: and by Jan hopefully Trollope will be backed to bring in some pacey players finally. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Problem is we got no money, and come the transfer window the only players available within budget will be lower league rejects.


We can still get good players really cheap but the recruitment needs to sort itself out tbh.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:02 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Why did the bafoon not use the last window to enhance the squad?


I don't think Trollope was expecting the team to be unbalanced as it has turned out to be so by Jan if he still here he will rectify the issues with the team which is mainly a pace problem.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:21 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Stay off the glue ry :laughing6: he got sacked at rovers for a reason not because they played 4-3-3 :old:

:bluescarf:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:24 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Stay off the glue ry :laughing6: he got sacked at rovers for a reason not because they played 4-3-3 :old:

:bluescarf:


He got sacked because his best players were being sold after a couple of seasons of respectable mid table finishes on a shoe string and Rovers thought they were bigger than league 1 and guess what after they sacked Trollope they went down. :thumbup:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:26 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Stay off the glue ry :laughing6: he got sacked at rovers for a reason not because they played 4-3-3 :old:

:bluescarf:


He got sacked because his best players were being sold after a couple of seasons of respectable mid table finishes on a shoe string and Rovers thought they were bigger than league 1 and guess what after they sacked Trollope they went down. :thumbup:

They was on the way down already with him I suggest you look at stats :laughing6:

It don't matter who the next coach is because like Trollope they wont have hardly any say just coach the players and a face for the media to blame imo :thumbup:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:32 pm

4-4-2 with proper wingers getting the ball wide for crosses into the box that's what would suit our personal best IMO

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:33 pm

phildavies wrote:4-4-2 with proper wingers getting the ball wide for crosses into the box that's what would suit our personal best IMO

Like Dj played :laughing6:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:35 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Stay off the glue ry :laughing6: he got sacked at rovers for a reason not because they played 4-3-3 :old:

:bluescarf:


He got sacked because his best players were being sold after a couple of seasons of respectable mid table finishes on a shoe string and Rovers thought they were bigger than league 1 and guess what after they sacked Trollope they went down. :thumbup:

They was on the way down already with him I suggest you look at stats :laughing6:

It don't matter who the next coach is because like Trollope they wont have hardly any say just coach the players and a face for the media to blame imo :thumbup:


That's because he had his best players sold they finished 16th in their first season in league 1 and consecutive 11th place finishes and then his and with best players getting sold off in his last season until December of 2010/11 he was sacked and they still went down I'd say he overachieved there. :thumbup:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:37 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Stay off the glue ry :laughing6: he got sacked at rovers for a reason not because they played 4-3-3 :old:

:bluescarf:


He got sacked because his best players were being sold after a couple of seasons of respectable mid table finishes on a shoe string and Rovers thought they were bigger than league 1 and guess what after they sacked Trollope they went down. :thumbup:

They was on the way down already with him I suggest you look at stats :laughing6:

It don't matter who the next coach is because like Trollope they wont have hardly any say just coach the players and a face for the media to blame imo :thumbup:


That's because he had his best players sold they finished 16th in their first season in league 1 and consecutive 11th place finishes and then his and with best players getting sold off in his last season until December of 2010/11 he was sacked and they still went down I'd say he overachieved there. :thumbup:

He finished 11th in the bottom tier so he over achieved and will do well here under with three amigo's running things :thumbup:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:38 pm

phildavies wrote:4-4-2 with proper wingers getting the ball wide for crosses into the box that's what would suit our personal best IMO


I'd have Harris and either Kennedy or John on the wings and Lambert and Pilks upfront and OKeefe and Whitts in Midfield if we are to go back to 442.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:42 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Was a counter attack 433 mostly so he now has reverted back to the 433 but haven't got the pace to counter attack so he is going to need a a couple of transfer windows to sort it out so I would give him the time to do it and get the 352 to work also and it will be worth the wait in the end just needs to get the short term results which I hope he will get starting at Rotherham. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Stay off the glue ry :laughing6: he got sacked at rovers for a reason not because they played 4-3-3 :old:

:bluescarf:


He got sacked because his best players were being sold after a couple of seasons of respectable mid table finishes on a shoe string and Rovers thought they were bigger than league 1 and guess what after they sacked Trollope they went down. :thumbup:

They was on the way down already with him I suggest you look at stats :laughing6:

It don't matter who the next coach is because like Trollope they wont have hardly any say just coach the players and a face for the media to blame imo :thumbup:


That's because he had his best players sold they finished 16th in their first season in league 1 and consecutive 11th place finishes and then his and with best players getting sold off in his last season until December of 2010/11 he was sacked and they still went down I'd say he overachieved there. :thumbup:

He finished 11th in the bottom tier so he over achieved and will do well here under with three amigo's running things :thumbup:


Give him time and he will turn it around me thinks. :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:26 am

he isnt the one making the signings tho so i dont know why u think he will get the right players in i personally think hes way out of his depth we need a malkay like manager who wont take shit from upstairs and will get the respect of the players

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:13 am

Reza wrote:he isnt the one making the signings tho so i dont know why u think he will get the right players in i personally think hes way out of his depth we need a malkay like manager who wont take shit from upstairs and will get the respect of the players


Not making the signings? Emyr Huws, Lambert,Richards and Joe Bennett are his signings. :thumbup:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:15 am

phildavies wrote:4-4-2 with proper wingers getting the ball wide for crosses into the box that's what would suit our personal best IMO


that's how I see it. Revert back to 442 and scrap for everything. Get crosses into the box. The players can't adapt to other tactics with much success

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:20 am

ThomasC wrote:
phildavies wrote:4-4-2 with proper wingers getting the ball wide for crosses into the box that's what would suit our personal best IMO


that's how I see it. Revert back to 442 and scrap for everything. Get crosses into the box. The players can't adapt to other tactics with much success


I expect the 433 will be the formation Trollope will use and in patches on Sat the players looked comfortable with it it was going fine until the penalty happened.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:27 am

Rydogsccfc wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
phildavies wrote:4-4-2 with proper wingers getting the ball wide for crosses into the box that's what would suit our personal best IMO


that's how I see it. Revert back to 442 and scrap for everything. Get crosses into the box. The players can't adapt to other tactics with much success


I expect the 433 will be the formation Trollope will use and in patches on Sat the players looked comfortable with it it was going fine until the penalty happened.


Fine without any threat though, we need to start scoring goals. If we play 433 there has to be improvement or we're relegated.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:29 am

ThomasC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
phildavies wrote:4-4-2 with proper wingers getting the ball wide for crosses into the box that's what would suit our personal best IMO


that's how I see it. Revert back to 442 and scrap for everything. Get crosses into the box. The players can't adapt to other tactics with much success


I expect the 433 will be the formation Trollope will use and in patches on Sat the players looked comfortable with it it was going fine until the penalty happened.


Fine without any threat though, we need to start scoring goals. If we play 433 there has to be improvement or we're relegated.


I'd have Harris and John on the wings hopefully Trollope uses John as a winger that's the way to go. :thumbup:

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:48 pm

Doesn't matter what style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers because clearly it did not work and he was sacked!

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:38 pm

I'm sorry to say John isn't good enough as a winger.
My team playing 4-2-3-1 with cover in all positions.

Amos Wilson

Peltier. Richards
Morrison. Manga
Connelly. Ajayi
Bennett. John

O'Keefe. Gunnarson
Whitingham. Ralls

Harris. Noone
Immers. Huws
Pilkington. Kennedy

Lambert. Fred


There is two good teams there, so something is badly wrong .
Is it confidence,coaching or just a run of very bad luck ?

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:05 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Doesn't matter what style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers because clearly it did not work and he was sacked!


He had his better players sold after keeping a pretty much a league 2 squad respectably in mid table for a couple of seasons after taking them up.

Re: The style Trollope played at Bristol Rovers

Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:12 pm

nojac wrote:I'm sorry to say John isn't good enough as a winger.
My team playing 4-2-3-1 with cover in all positions.

Amos Wilson

Peltier. Richards
Morrison. Manga
Connelly. Ajayi
Bennett. John

O'Keefe. Gunnarson
Whitingham. Ralls

Harris. Noone
Immers. Huws
Pilkington. Kennedy

Lambert. Fred


There is two good teams there, so something is badly wrong .
Is it confidence,coaching or just a run of very bad luck ?


Well John hasn't really being played as a proper winger so can't that he isn't good enough I'd go with 433 with John and Harris on both flanks and Lambert in the middle bring youth and pace :thumbright: and at the moment answering you're last question losing of course doesn't help confidence but one win can make a difference and I think its more to do with the players than the coaching the squad is unbalanced and I feel for PT but hopefully he gets the time and chance to bring in players that will inject pace through the midfield especially. :thumbup: :ayatollah: