IM POSTIVE AFTER TODAY!

So i look at the forum and the trend seems to be trollope is useless we need a new manager and slade would have us top of the league at this point. Well i disagree..

I thought we were the better side today and it could have easily been us winning 2-0 today if we hadnt hit the woodwork twice and they went in and a moment of madness and unproffesianlism by connolly trying to put a leeds player in a headlock in the box and a wonder strike by hernandez. We could have scored much more today if it werent for some great defending from leeds credit to them for that. We controlled the majority of the game and on another day it could have been us with the 3 points but for me it was just one of them days and we didnt have luck on our side today.

For me the change to 433 was a massive positive and i can see us finally moving forward now and getting better each game with this new system..

Anyone else share my optimism after today?

Hopefully the board doesn't panic.

No sorry we were dire with whitts and ralls going back in line with the centre halves to collect the ball which is leaving us light in the middle we have said time and time again whitts and gunnars doesn't work in the middle. Trolls does not know what the hell to do

So i look at the forum and the trend seems to be trollope is useless we need a new manager and slade would have us top of the league at this point. Well i disagree..

I thought we were the better side today and it could have easily been us winning 2-0 today if we hadnt hit the woodwork twice and they went in and a moment of madness and unproffesianlism by connolly trying to put a leeds player in a headlock in the box and a wonder strike by hernandez. We could have scored much more today if it werent for some great defending from leeds credit to them for that. We controlled the majority of the game and on another day it could have been us with the 3 points but for me it was just one of them days and we didnt have luck on our side today.

For me the change to 433 was a massive positive and i can see us finally moving forward now and getting better each game with this new system..

Anyone else share my optimism after today?

The only thing is it's not just todays performance and result. Every week is full of what if's, and if that or this had happened. The table does'nt lie. We are rock bottom after 8 games, one win thanks to a couple of own goals,and still have'nt played many of the fancied sides. There are far more difficult games ahead, and we have'nt done too well in the games we've played so far.

So i look at the forum and the trend seems to be trollope is useless we need a new manager and slade would have us top of the league at this point. Well i disagree..

I thought we were the better side today and it could have easily been us winning 2-0 today if we hadnt hit the woodwork twice and they went in and a moment of madness and unproffesianlism by connolly trying to put a leeds player in a headlock in the box and a wonder strike by hernandez. We could have scored much more today if it werent for some great defending from leeds credit to them for that. We controlled the majority of the game and on another day it could have been us with the 3 points but for me it was just one of them days and we didnt have luck on our side today.

For me the change to 433 was a massive positive and i can see us finally moving forward now and getting better each game with this new system..

Anyone else share my optimism after today?

The only thing is it's not just todays performance and result. Every week is full of what if's, and if that or this had happened. The table does'nt lie. We are rock bottom after 8 games, one win thanks to a couple of own goals,and still have'nt played many of the fancied sides. There are far more difficult games ahead, and we have'nt done too well in the games we've played so far.

I see what you are saying but i blame the 532 for where we are in the table and had we been playing this 433 all season we would be nowhere near bottom imo.

433 and we got beat by a poor leads team ??

433 and we got beat by a poor leads team ??

Leeds werent the best i agree but like i said a wonder strike and a penalty that we shouldnt have conceded was the difference today. We hit the woodwork twice and leeds defended excellently today their centre back was outstanding janssen or something like that on another day we could have beat that poor leeds team like you say no problem just didnt happen for us today.

Can you honestly say that poor leeds team dominated us and deserved 3 points today? I cant.

433 and we got beat by a poor leads team ??

Leeds werent the best i agree but like i said a wonder strike and a penalty that we shouldnt have conceded was the difference today. We hit the woodwork twice and leeds defended excellently today their centre back was outstanding janssen or something like that on another day we could have beat that poor leeds team like you say no problem just didnt happen for us today.

Can you honestly say that poor leeds team dominated us and deserved 3 points today? I cant.

Can you honestly say that we dominated today and deserved 3 points?

If you can then please let me know where to buy a pair of those rose coloured spectacles you must have had on because I thought it was a poor game between two very weak teams - the sort of game where you have to pick up something from the game.

That we lost is a damning indictment of the manager and the players.

You can hit the woodwork as much as you like - unfortunately that doesn't count.

I thought we didn't even look like scoring against a Leeds defence that looked woeful. Players that are off form and those playing like they don't care aka Nooney. Dropping our only player that wins MOTM time and time again is strange.

It was much better first half and 4-3-3 was an improvement, but no goals!!! You know, what wins matches. Second half penalty decided game, but we didn't run beyond or offer enough quality going forward and again created very little. Poor

It was much better first half and 4-3-3 was an improvement, but no goals!!! You know, what wins matches. Second half penalty decided game, but we didn't run beyond or offer enough quality going forward and again created very little. Poor

I agree with your point about running beyond, we need the midfield to run and get further up the pitch to support lambert, immers would do this imo and should be instructed by trollope to run beyond the midfield and get up to support lambert as much as possible. Also kadeem in for noone and we will be a lot more potent in attack then. Little tweeks and we will be fine, at the end of the day this was the first competative game for the 433 system and we can build on this now

So i look at the forum and the trend seems to be trollope is useless we need a new manager and slade would have us top of the league at this point. Well i disagree..

I thought we were the better side today and it could have easily been us winning 2-0 today if we hadnt hit the woodwork twice and they went in and a moment of madness and unproffesianlism by connolly trying to put a leeds player in a headlock in the box and a wonder strike by hernandez. We could have scored much more today if it werent for some great defending from leeds credit to them for that. We controlled the majority of the game and on another day it could have been us with the 3 points but for me it was just one of them days and we didnt have luck on our side today.

For me the change to 433 was a massive positive and i can see us finally moving forward now and getting better each game with this new system..

Anyone else share my optimism after today?

Yes the formation was better however the big question is how many saves did the Leeds keeper have to make? He could have brought his bed and had a sleep. No players in the box & it's easy to pass sideways or backwards!

So i look at the forum and the trend seems to be trollope is useless we need a new manager and slade would have us top of the league at this point. Well i disagree..

I thought we were the better side today and it could have easily been us winning 2-0 today if we hadnt hit the woodwork twice and they went in and a moment of madness and unproffesianlism by connolly trying to put a leeds player in a headlock in the box and a wonder strike by hernandez. We could have scored much more today if it werent for some great defending from leeds credit to them for that. We controlled the majority of the game and on another day it could have been us with the 3 points but for me it was just one of them days and we didnt have luck on our side today.

For me the change to 433 was a massive positive and i can see us finally moving forward now and getting better each game with this new system..

Anyone else share my optimism after today?

Yes the formation was better however the big question is how many saves did the Leeds keeper have to make? He could have brought his bed and had a sleep. No players in the box & it's easy to pass sideways or backwards!

I disagree with your point. Green had to make some saves tonight especially a top save he had to tip on to the post which was flying into the net off a header. Janssen was outstanding tonight hes prem quality if he wernt on the pitch tonight we would have buried leeds simple

Of the games I've seen, I thought City were played their best of the season against Leeds and might have won had they scored one of a glut of first half chances. The penalty was the difference between the sides and Amos was not at fault for either goal and even Marshall rarely saved penalties!

I'm with you here! Positive Brigade!

We should've been clear by half time 2 or 3 goals would not have flattered us. On another day with a little rub of the green. Red card for them, not hitting the post defenders not on top of their game and a little more luck we'd have won that easily.

The pen decision, for me, is what changed the game. Yes it was a pen, consistent no way! Now I know I only watched on telly, but Holloway and the studio even highlighted the holding going on at our corners... how did we not get a penalty? Warned everyone apparently? They get one at their first corner, to me, very poor.

On to the positives, the 4-3-3. definitely was working, from a possession and an attacking point. It was exploiting space out wide, overlaps were there, final pass and the killer instinct is what was missing. Pilks, Noone and Lambert front 3. Not bad, i'd have swapped Noone for Harris in his natural position, however Noone was ok. A little more urgency and support for Lambert and we'll come good. Considering a lot of teams line up the same formation as Leeds, very positive news. Goals will come, these boys were playing their first game together.

Amos, brilliant game. A couple of really good saves, not at fault for either goal. Impressed.

Still have Bennett to come in, didn't think Jazz or Pelts had a bad game, but I think Bennett will improve here.

I'd also have Huws or Immers in the midfield, someone to rush into the box. We have a sideways passser in Whitts (who did very well switiching play and finding space today i thought) Ralls can be dropped.

We weren't out played by Leeds by a long stretch, unlucky yes. As the saying goes these things balance themselves out over a season, if they do, from what I've seen so far, we've had a lot of bad luck, the good should come! (I hope)

It will happen! Keep the faith, this squad is too good to be bottom!!

Team next game:

Amos
Pelts Connolly Morrisson Richards
Gunnars Immers Whitts
Harris Lambert Pilks

I'm with you here! Positive Brigade!

We should've been clear by half time 2 or 3 goals would not have flattered us. On another day with a little rub of the green. Red card for them, not hitting the post defenders not on top of their game and a little more luck we'd have won that easily.

The pen decision, for me, is what changed the game. Yes it was a pen, consistent no way! Now I know I only watched on telly, but Holloway and the studio even highlighted the holding going on at our corners... how did we not get a penalty? Warned everyone apparently? They get one at their first corner, to me, very poor.

On to the positives, the 4-3-3. definitely was working, from a possession and an attacking point. It was exploiting space out wide, overlaps were there, final pass and the killer instinct is what was missing. Pilks, Noone and Lambert front 3. Not bad, i'd have swapped Noone for Harris in his natural position, however Noone was ok. A little more urgency and support for Lambert and we'll come good. Considering a lot of teams line up the same formation as Leeds, very positive news. Goals will come, these boys were playing their first game together.

Amos, brilliant game. A couple of really good saves, not at fault for either goal. Impressed.

Still have Bennett to come in, didn't think Jazz or Pelts had a bad game, but I think Bennett will improve here.

I'd also have Huws or Immers in the midfield, someone to rush into the box. We have a sideways passser in Whitts (who did very well switiching play and finding space today i thought) Ralls can be dropped.

We weren't out played by Leeds by a long stretch, unlucky yes. As the saying goes these things balance themselves out over a season, if they do, from what I've seen so far, we've had a lot of bad luck, the good should come! (I hope)

It will happen! Keep the faith, this squad is too good to be bottom!!

Team next game:

Amos
Pelts Connolly Morrisson Richards
Gunnars Immers Whitts
Harris Lambert Pilks

I love comments like this squad is too good to be bottom. This squad is bottom.

I'm with you here! Positive Brigade!

We should've been clear by half time 2 or 3 goals would not have flattered us. On another day with a little rub of the green. Red card for them, not hitting the post defenders not on top of their game and a little more luck we'd have won that easily.

The pen decision, for me, is what changed the game. Yes it was a pen, consistent no way! Now I know I only watched on telly, but Holloway and the studio even highlighted the holding going on at our corners... how did we not get a penalty? Warned everyone apparently? They get one at their first corner, to me, very poor.

On to the positives, the 4-3-3. definitely was working, from a possession and an attacking point. It was exploiting space out wide, overlaps were there, final pass and the killer instinct is what was missing. Pilks, Noone and Lambert front 3. Not bad, i'd have swapped Noone for Harris in his natural position, however Noone was ok. A little more urgency and support for Lambert and we'll come good. Considering a lot of teams line up the same formation as Leeds, very positive news. Goals will come, these boys were playing their first game together.

Amos, brilliant game. A couple of really good saves, not at fault for either goal. Impressed.

Still have Bennett to come in, didn't think Jazz or Pelts had a bad game, but I think Bennett will improve here.

I'd also have Huws or Immers in the midfield, someone to rush into the box. We have a sideways passser in Whitts (who did very well switiching play and finding space today i thought) Ralls can be dropped.

We weren't out played by Leeds by a long stretch, unlucky yes. As the saying goes these things balance themselves out over a season, if they do, from what I've seen so far, we've had a lot of bad luck, the good should come! (I hope)

It will happen! Keep the faith, this squad is too good to be bottom!!

Team next game:

Amos
Pelts Connolly Morrisson Richards
Gunnars Immers Whitts
Harris Lambert Pilks

I love comments like this squad is too good to be bottom. This squad is bottom.

We won't be bottom come May. Positive

I'm with you here! Positive Brigade!

We should've been clear by half time 2 or 3 goals would not have flattered us. On another day with a little rub of the green. Red card for them, not hitting the post defenders not on top of their game and a little more luck we'd have won that easily.

The pen decision, for me, is what changed the game. Yes it was a pen, consistent no way! Now I know I only watched on telly, but Holloway and the studio even highlighted the holding going on at our corners... how did we not get a penalty? Warned everyone apparently? They get one at their first corner, to me, very poor.

On to the positives, the 4-3-3. definitely was working, from a possession and an attacking point. It was exploiting space out wide, overlaps were there, final pass and the killer instinct is what was missing. Pilks, Noone and Lambert front 3. Not bad, i'd have swapped Noone for Harris in his natural position, however Noone was ok. A little more urgency and support for Lambert and we'll come good. Considering a lot of teams line up the same formation as Leeds, very positive news. Goals will come, these boys were playing their first game together.

Amos, brilliant game. A couple of really good saves, not at fault for either goal. Impressed.

Still have Bennett to come in, didn't think Jazz or Pelts had a bad game, but I think Bennett will improve here.

I'd also have Huws or Immers in the midfield, someone to rush into the box. We have a sideways passser in Whitts (who did very well switiching play and finding space today i thought) Ralls can be dropped.

We weren't out played by Leeds by a long stretch, unlucky yes. As the saying goes these things balance themselves out over a season, if they do, from what I've seen so far, we've had a lot of bad luck, the good should come! (I hope)

It will happen! Keep the faith, this squad is too good to be bottom!!

Team next game:

Amos
Pelts Connolly Morrisson Richards
Gunnars Immers Whitts
Harris Lambert Pilks

Agree with everything you said here, we will work our way up the table gradually now imo and who knows we could work our way into the play offs by the end of the season still a lot of games to go. As someone pointed out on another thread hopefully we have seen the worse form now and we can improve starting with rotherham