" EVERYTHING UPDATED AND ITS NOT GOOD AT ALL "

Preston hammer us and then today lost 5-0

WE ARE NOW BOTTOM OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP

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I would sack him tonight simple as that. Will it solve our problem? Probably not, but not sacking certainly won't solve our problem. Lots of changes is totally lost, not even slight sign of it working. This team have no bottle fight or heart. Out for me. No messing about.

I think we might go down this year Annis, weird thing is I'm not that bothered.
I think it's inevitable under this clueless regime that we will go down at somepoint. Terrible mgt at every level including the stadium manager....lets hope the humiliation sees Tan sell up and hopefully we can start out all over again.

Has to go before it's too late the biggest problem is ralls and whitts going back to pick ball up off centre halves he can't see it he has no chance of turning it around a good coach isn't always a good manager out tonight please

Annis,

You will have seen for yourself today how poor we've been all season.

At the moment it's difficult to see any way out of the position that we are in other than the replacement of the management team and replacing them with experienced people who know how the division work and can install some discipline into a group of players who obviously cannot or will not play the way the current manger wants them to play.

The problem for Trollope is that if you take away his 5-3-2 system then he's got nothing else to offer.

Ubfortunately I don't think Tan would be willing to allow a strong willed experienced manager to run the club - he only wants cheap yes men and he got lucky with Slade.

Now he's seeing what can happen when he appoints a cheap option with no experience at this level.

Will he learn another harsh footballing lesson? Let's hope so or we've got a long season ahead of us.

angry and appalled at how badly the club has been run over the past few seasons. Unfortunately everything stems from Tan. In 2011-2012 we reached play offs with a new team and didn't spend huge amounts. Looked like club was finally being run sensibly with the other malaysian fella TG and Malky and you felt with a little bit of tweaking the team was going places with 18-20,000 season ticket holders.

Then Tan stuck his beak in and all went pear shaped. Yes we went up but it was for many a joyless experience with a divided fan base, with the inevitable divisions coming to roost when we started losing. Then a serious of poor management choices (Slade did ok but was still a poor choice) has left us bottom of the championship and the fan base frustrated and for me disheartened. Its a mess of Tans making.

Only way out imo is to get in Warnock or experienced hard nosed manager to kick arses of all these under-achieving players and get us to safety this year. Then don't renew any contracts of current experienced players on good wages like Pilks, Gunnar, Noone, Morrison, Manga or any of them at end of season and start again with new manager and brand new team with his players hopefully coming from lower leagues who are hungry and fresh. The players currently at club have had plenty of chances and have proved themselves not good enough or sadly passionate enough to wear the shirt.

angry and appalled at how badly the club has been run over the past few seasons. Unfortunately everything stems from Tan. In 2011-2012 we reached play offs with a new team and didn't spend huge amounts. Looked like club was finally being run sensibly with the other malaysian fella TG and Malky and you felt with a little bit of tweaking the team was going places with 18-20,000 season ticket holders.

Then Tan stuck his beak in and all went pear shaped. Yes we went up but it was for many a joyless experience with a divided fan base, with the inevitable divisions coming to roost when we started losing. Then a serious of poor management choices (Slade did ok but was still a poor choice) has left us bottom of the championship and the fan base frustrated and for me disheartened. Its a mess of Tans making.

Only way out imo is to get in Warnock or experienced hard nosed manager to kick arses of all these under-achieving players and get us to safety this year. Then don't renew any contracts of current experienced players on good wages like Pilks, Gunnar, Noone, Morrison, Manga or any of them at end of season and start again with new manager and brand new team with his players hopefully coming from lower leagues who are hungry and fresh. The players currently at club have had plenty of chances and have proved themselves not good enough or sadly passionate enough to wear the shirt.

Spot on mate, some players are in comfort zone and without a new manager this year ( let's face it trolls isn't like having a new man ) it's got worse. Another nice guy but of course that's what tan wants.

I agree things are not good at the moment and PT is on a knife edge.

However, I don't believe the situation can't be turned around. PT has to get out on that training ground and start working on the 4-3-3 system which has an END PRODUCT.

Keeping the ball for the sake of it is at the heart of our problems. Also some players have nailed on places and that has to stop. Lee Peltier is one and he should be replaced by Jazz Richards with a left footer coming in on the other flank (Bennett/John). If Craig Noone is to play then he goes down the left hand side and starts delivering quality crosses for Lambert. Harris should go right wing even if that means Anthony Pilkington is dropped.

Take your pick of the 3 central midfielders all could go if I had my way and replace them with Huws, O'Keefe and Immers coming in.

What's going to cost more? Getting in a manager like Warnock or Pullis and paying them the going rate to ensure championship survival (and Tan promising not to interfere) or getting relegated into league 1? Surely it can't make any financial sense to Tan and his cronies for us to be relegated. Granted, it's early days of the season but I can't see Trollope keeping us out of trouble.

I agree things are not good at the moment and PT is on a knife edge.

However, I don't believe the situation can't be turned around. PT has to get out on that training ground and start working on the 4-3-3 system which has an END PRODUCT.

Keeping the ball for the sake of it is at the heart of our problems. Also some players have nailed on places and that has to stop. Lee Peltier is one and he should be replaced by Jazz Richards with a left footer coming in on the other flank (Bennett/John). If Craig Noone is to play then he goes down the left hand side and starts delivering quality crosses for Lambert. Harris should go right wing even if that means Anthony Pilkington is dropped.

Take your pick of the 3 central midfielders all could go if I had my way and replace them with Huws, O'Keefe and Immers coming in.

I agree with a lot of that but Craig noone hasn't had an average performance in a city shirt for some time. He gives the ball away time after time can't beat a man, he's awful. Peltier is best defender we have. Harris for sure on the right.