who actually believes we can ?

who actually believes we can ?

Who on here actually believes we as fans can actually make tan choo and dalman listen to us .

I for one do not believe they take any notice of us at all .

if they did , they would have sorted out the the mess we are in by now .
the trust chip away as do the supporters club , but what have they achieved in the last few years.
travel restrictions have only just been lifted and dwindling numbers traveling away have probably had a big influence
the stadium atmosphere and match day experience , has still not been improved , even with all the threads on here bemoaning , the influence of wayne nash , in quashing fans interacting with away fans .
management, directors and the owner still lie to us , about the real aims of the club .
so I say no matter what is said on here , it falls on deaf ears within our club .

If they did, we'd have had 10 managers last season, 40 high earning players on the books, be 500 million in debt and be owned by a ken thorne/craig bellamy led consortium!!!

There is a reason fans are not managers/owners. Tan aint great, but he's the only reason this club still exists.

If they did, we'd have had 10 managers last season, 40 high earning players on the books, be 500 million in debt and be owned by a ken thorne/craig bellamy led consortium!!!

There is a reason fans are not managers/owners. Tan aint great, but he's the only reason this club still exists.

Good reply
but my point is some on here seem serious in thinking there voice is actually heard

If they did, we'd have had 10 managers last season, 40 high earning players on the books, be 500 million in debt and be owned by a ken thorne/craig bellamy led consortium!!!

There is a reason fans are not managers/owners. Tan aint great, but he's the only reason this club still exists.

You're so right its laughable.

If they did, we'd have had 10 managers last season, 40 high earning players on the books, be 500 million in debt and be owned by a ken thorne/craig bellamy led consortium!!!

There is a reason fans are not managers/owners. Tan aint great, but he's the only reason this club still exists.

40 high earners? That must be a joke. If they listened to this forum they would have been signing 40 high earners a day during the transfer window.

We had 50 high earners under OGS. VT/KC/MD run the show and its its their way or no-way as far as I can see.

There is still no-one in an executive and strategic decision making capacity that is a proven football expert. I'm not having a cheap shot but unless you have someone who is just that, how can VT/KC/MD ever expect success with no experience? And I don't blame PT entirely for where we are at the moment as I'm sure that his working relationship is probably far from perfect, with key players departing at a moments notice with no cover planned.

We had 50 high earners under OGS. VT/KC/MD run the show and its its their way or no-way as far as I can see.

There is still no-one in an executive and strategic decision making capacity that is a proven football expert. I'm not having a cheap shot but unless you have someone who is just that, how can VT/KC/MD ever expect success with no experience? And I don't blame PT entirely for where we are at the moment as I'm sure that his working relationship is probably far from perfect, with key players departing at a moments notice with no cover planned.

Agree with the above 100%.

Steve can you keep this to the 'knock the club' thread please buddy. Cheers

We had 50 high earners under OGS. VT/KC/MD run the show and its its their way or no-way as far as I can see.

There is still no-one in an executive and strategic decision making capacity that is a proven football expert. I'm not having a cheap shot but unless you have someone who is just that, how can VT/KC/MD ever expect success with no experience? And I don't blame PT entirely for where we are at the moment as I'm sure that his working relationship is probably far from perfect, with key players departing at a moments notice with no cover planned.

Agree with the above 100%.

The shame of all this is that it could and should have played out so much differently if that trusted football expertise was brought in from the start as a base to support the plan. It still could. In retrospect, a proven professionals annual salary would look like small-beer compared to the mountain of money we have since wasted on repeated poor choices.

Steve can you keep this to the 'knock the club' thread please buddy. Cheers

Is this thread a piss take?

Is this thread a piss take?

Not piss take its a genuine question

Is this thread a piss take?

Not piss take its a genuine question

So earlier this week you went on a huge rant about people knocking the club and now you've started a thread knocking the club?!?!?

Is this thread a piss take?

Not piss take its a genuine question

So earlier this week you went on a huge rant about people knocking the club and now you've started a thread knocking the club?!?!?

But it's ok for him to do. The rest should go into a separate section.

Is this thread a piss take?

Not piss take its a genuine question

So earlier this week you went on a huge rant about people knocking the club and now you've started a thread knocking the club?!?!?

But it's ok for him to do. The rest should go into a separate section.

its not knocking the club , its asking a question about the power of fans and forums ,which you both have either not understood , or decided not to give an answer
I answered the question , and put up the reasons , I believe back up my take on it

Sorry I mis read the OP.

I've re read it and no I dont think the club will listen to the forums.

If it makes people feel better sounding off on them that's up to individuals but they won't change the clubs mind on anything moaning on forums.

I do however think forums, not just this one but Mike board, and football forums in general can set the tone of a fan base.
At the moment there's s lot of negativity surrounding Cardiff City and I don't think the forums help if I'm honest.

Good reply polo

I can tell you for a fact that the forums have no influence in how the club acts or reacts.
The club, however, does like to listen to certain fans and their views.

I can tell you for a fact that the forums have no influence in how the club acts or reacts.
The club, however, does like to listen to certain fans and their views.

Agree but sadly its the same select few every time

I can tell you for a fact that the forums have no influence in how the club acts or reacts.
The club, however, does like to listen to certain fans and their views.

Agree but sadly its the same select few every time

Not necessarily