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" PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:43 pm

" PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

ITS CARDIFF CITY'S WORST START IN 12 YEARS.

BBC

Tuesday 13th September 2016


Cardiff City head coach Paul Trollope apologised to travelling supporters after his team's 3-0 defeat at Preston.

The Bluebirds dropped to 21st in the Championship and have won once in their opening seven matches.

It is Cardiff's worst start to a season in 12 years after what Trollope agreed was the team's poorest display so far.

"Apologies to the supporters, they have travelled a long way and seen a performance that was unacceptable," he said.

"I'm not going to stand here and give any excuses.

"We can stand here and talk about systems and ways of playing but there are some basic requirements in football to do well and win games and those were lacking.

"We were probably worthy of a goal in that second period but I'm not kidding myself, the game was done."

Trollope was appointed at the end of last season, taking over from Russell Slade who guided the team to eighth in the table.

But they have not won since the 2-1 victory over Blackburn on 17 August, with their only other points coming from draws at Birmingham and Fulham.

Cardiff face Leeds at home on Saturday following their 2-1 win over Blackburn on Tuesday.

"We've got a lot of work to do before Saturday," admitted Trollope.

"We're of course concerned. We didn't deserve to be going home with anything tonight.

"There's pressure on every manager every game and on every coach.

"The pressure is always there and everyone knows the situation and I believe in how I work and I believe in the group of players."
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Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:47 pm

A very honest review hence can't argue with that.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:58 pm

As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:07 pm

BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:18 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


I definitely didn't want Trollope, I thought he should of gone with Slade. Your right though we never did play as bad as this under Slade. I just got fed up of hearing the same speech where for once we have heard some honesty. I'm going to back him the same as I did Slade for now as we have no other option.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:26 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:33 am

polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:36 am

:laughing6: We are supposed to be improving season by season.
Has any of the signings so far this season looked to improve the club?
Tan , Dalman and Choo will look back on the Marshall sale and have nightmares when we are relegated.
Selling Moore as well,giving Wilson a new contract?
You just know when things are not right at the club,it normally surfaces in the performances.
We can all look back and see when players were not paid,players allegedly out on the lash,all resulted in major poor losses.
What is going on now,we could all predict.
Major decision is there is no loan window.
Wow,that will hurt Amy new manager.
Listened to Blakey a few weeks ago after the reading defeat.
He stated all the supporters know what's coming.
Ie relegation.
The performances rival the 70 and 80,s,we had excuses then the players were shit.
What is our current lot of overpaid prima Donna's excuse?

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:01 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.


Absolutely right. We will all have our views on Trollope but to suggest we were no worse off with Slade is absolute madness.

Some of the runs under Slade were frightening and whilst he did have to cost cut he still had players like Marshall, Fabio and Jones to call on and still failed dismally.

These are cheap comments and are simply not backed up with facts.

I'm no Trollope fan, yet, but I'll take him over Slade any day of the week !!

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:10 am

piledriver64 wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.


Absolutely right. We will all have our views on Trollope but to suggest we were no worse off with Slade is absolute madness.

Some of the runs under Slade were frightening and whilst he did have to cost cut he still had players like Marshall, Fabio and Jones to call on and still failed dismally.

These are cheap comments and are simply not backed up with facts.

I'm no Trollope fan, yet, but I'll take him over Slade any day of the week !!

Agree with you all, ridiculous statement from Tonteg. In my opinion, Trollope would have had to have been part of the problem last season, and I could never understand his appointment other than he came cheap. Unfortunately, everything will have to be done on the cheap, and anything of value not nailed down will be sold. Tan made it clear that investing in the club came with conditions, including playing in red. We are in for some tough times, and unless there is some wealthy person around somewhere looking to throw some money away by buying a football club, things could get a lot worse.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:22 am

Correct Zodiak, they are going to get a hell of a lot worse and would have got worse with or without Slade.

Weve made more severe cuts whilst the division has got stronger, it doesnt take a genius to do the math on this one.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:33 am

polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Spot on Polo too many selective memories on here I'm afraid

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:06 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!



Tripe

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:02 pm

I think trollopes twin brother (Nick of corrie) could do a better job :old:

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:23 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.


Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.

Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.

Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:35 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.


Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.

Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.

Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.


Just two things to pick you up on if I may.

To suggest that Trollope is somehow playing "more entertaining football" is far fetched in the extreme. The football this season has been absolutely dire - no pace, no creativity, no cutting edge, no threat, no hard work, nothing. We're not even "hard to beat" anymore, even at home. It's been shocking and it's showing no signs of improving.

Secondly, Trollope hasn't been shafted by Tan - Trollope is a big boy who had seen exactly the way the club was run under Tan. He knew exactly what he was letting himself in for but, like Slade before him, he obviously thought that, despite all previous management evidence to the contrary, he was the man to make a success of managing a club with high (if unrealistic) expectations in the Championship.

I can't feel sorry for Trollope on that basis I'm afraid.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:05 pm

davids wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.


Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.

Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.

Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.


Just two things to pick you up on if I may.

To suggest that Trollope is somehow playing "more entertaining football" is far fetched in the extreme. The football this season has been absolutely dire - no pace, no creativity, no cutting edge, no threat, no hard work, nothing. We're not even "hard to beat" anymore, even at home. It's been shocking and it's showing no signs of improving.

Secondly, Trollope hasn't been shafted by Tan - Trollope is a big boy who had seen exactly the way the club was run under Tan. He knew exactly what he was letting himself in for but, like Slade before him, he obviously thought that, despite all previous management evidence to the contrary, he was the man to make a success of managing a club with high (if unrealistic) expectations in the Championship.

I can't feel sorry for Trollope on that basis I'm afraid.


Agree with you davids. In Trollope's defence I can see what he is trying to do but he's not got the right players to do it. We have a decent set of players but the tactics are wrong. Switch to 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 and let's just take the game to teams. At the moment we are being kicked on the floor and looking pathetic. Something has to change.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:17 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.


Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.

Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.

Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.


Youre contradicting yourself. How can you use the period highlighted to excuse Slade for the poor run and not deem that a factor with Trollope?

The period I highlighted was 3 to 5 months into Slades reign. Trollope is 5 weeks into his and his task is as big if not an even bigger than Slades when he first arrived.

Slade had to mainly get rid of squad players and kept his first XI together for much of the period I highlighted whereas Trollope has had to deal with important members of the first team being sold and is working with far less of a team, squad and budget than Slade did when he first arrived.

Id like to see how Slade would have got on if he had to use Ben Wilson instead of David Marshall in his time in charge!!!

Maybe coincidence but it was only when Trollope was brought in to help Slade did that awful 3 month run of poor results come to and end and we started picking up a few wins.

Perhaps Trollope is one of those football men who are good coaches but dont make good managers ala Brian Kidd. Who knows.

Either way your initial statement that we had never played as bad as last night under Slade, or we never had as poor a run as this under him is factually incorrect.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:44 pm

Trollope says in that interview "we were worthy of a goal in the second half"

Formation was changed second half and thats the reason, same as we changed formation against bristol rovers when we were awful up until the change when we looked like scoring then.

Lets see if trollope learns now and finally changes the formation saturday because if he dosent he is an absoloute clown and waste of time imo.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:29 pm

I based my pre season prediction of 12th to 15th around our squad rather than our manager. I don't agree with the majority on this forum who say we have a strong squad. I think we have an average to poor squad, and if it was that good, it would'nt matter who the manager is or what formation we adopt, the team would have had more than one fortunate win in seven games, a win that we got through a couple of own goals. Trollope is not helping, but he is not the sole reason behind us having a pathetic 5 points out of 21 points available.

Re: " PAUL TROLLOPE APOLOGISES "

Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:28 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
polo wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse


We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!


Wrong. Rewriting history.

Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.

We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.

Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.


Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.


Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.

Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.

Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.

Give IT a rest, will You? Just like Ole, Trollope is working a new system with a newly composed squad.. Give him a few games to work it out. Not least the players. It's not like intelligence on the pitch is their strong side, and neither is yours by the look of it..