Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:43 pm
Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:47 pm
Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:58 pm
Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:07 pm
BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:18 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:26 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:33 am
polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:36 am
We are supposed to be improving season by season.Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:01 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.
Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:10 am
piledriver64 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.
Absolutely right. We will all have our views on Trollope but to suggest we were no worse off with Slade is absolute madness.
Some of the runs under Slade were frightening and whilst he did have to cost cut he still had players like Marshall, Fabio and Jones to call on and still failed dismally.
These are cheap comments and are simply not backed up with facts.
I'm no Trollope fan, yet, but I'll take him over Slade any day of the week !!
Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:22 am
Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:33 am
polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:06 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:02 pm
Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:23 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.
Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:35 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.
Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.
Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.
Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.
Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:05 pm
davids wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.
Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.
Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.
Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.
Just two things to pick you up on if I may.
To suggest that Trollope is somehow playing "more entertaining football" is far fetched in the extreme. The football this season has been absolutely dire - no pace, no creativity, no cutting edge, no threat, no hard work, nothing. We're not even "hard to beat" anymore, even at home. It's been shocking and it's showing no signs of improving.
Secondly, Trollope hasn't been shafted by Tan - Trollope is a big boy who had seen exactly the way the club was run under Tan. He knew exactly what he was letting himself in for but, like Slade before him, he obviously thought that, despite all previous management evidence to the contrary, he was the man to make a success of managing a club with high (if unrealistic) expectations in the Championship.
I can't feel sorry for Trollope on that basis I'm afraid.
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:17 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.
Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.
Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.
Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:44 pm
Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:29 pm
Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:28 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:polo wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:BaltimoreBlues wrote:As much as I'm disappointed you have to give him some respect for coming out and saying that, at least it's honest and not like Slade who used to make some excuse
We never played this bad or had a consistently bad run like this under Slade. I was one of few who continuously stuck up for Slade appreciating the difficult circumstances he was working under while others slagged him off at will, choosing to give all the credit to Trollope instead. Well the majority of you got your wish and look where we are now!
Wrong. Rewriting history.
Take a look at the results between December 14 to Feb 15. We won 1 game in 14 and at one point had lost 7 games in 8.
We were 3-0 down in half hour in two consecutive games against Bournemouth and Brentford and I also remember a particularly bad defeat away to a struggling Bolton side 3-0 who also turned us over 3-0 later that season at home.
Trollope may not be the answer but the club have tied his hands far tighter than Slades ever were and if you think Slade never had a run as bad as we're having now, or never played as badly as we did last night, then you're more deluded than the time you claimed Moore, Caulker, Mutch and Campbell were the future spine of the England team.
Great reply to another ridiculous post.
Some of the football played under Slade was the most utterly boring and mind numbing I have seen.
Polo highlights the period Slade had just taken over from Ole when he had a massive task offloading several high earning bottlers from Ole's bloated squad. It just goes to show what a good job Slade did steadying the ship, massively reducing our debt while keeping us challenging for the playoffs.
Like I said, the majority of you got your wish. When we lost it was Slade out, when we won the football was too boring. But did Slade get us results with his 'boring' football? Unquestionably yes. Is Trollope getting us results with his more entertaining football? Definitely not. We are 21st in the league and we are showing no signs of turning things around.
Just like Slade, Trollope has been shafted by Tan and I do appreciate him apologising. But Trollope isn't showing he is capable of what's required to get results with an inferior team. Trollope seems unable to make us play boring like Slade and win ugly. We concede every game and don't seem to have the battling qualities to grind out a result like we did under Slade. It's a massive concern, the way we have started this season reminds me of our disastrous spell under Ole. We could have still done with a 'Steady Eddie' to guide us through this troubled period with some of our best players getting sold. Trollope has a massive task ahead.