' WHO IS DECIDING WHO CARDIFF BUYS OR SELLS '

' WHO IS DECIDING WHO CARDIFF BUYS OR SELLS '

THEY WILL DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS

OWNER VINCENT TAN

CHAIRMAN MEHMET DALMAN

CEO KEN CHOO






Who makes the initial phone calls?

Ken Choo, as chief executive officer, does the groundwork in terms of ringing other clubs and players' agents.

He has a chunky list on his desk of potential targets and goes through them one by one. Trollope is asked for his advice - if he doesn't want someone, Cardiff strike the individual from the list.

Some players are ambitious targets, others more realistic, but Cardiff work on a nothing ventured, nothing gained scenario.

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What about the negotiating?


It is at this point, having been given names, numbers and a meeting place, that chairman Dalman becomes actively involved.

He is a smooth negotiator and will try to persuade Cardiff's preferred targets to come on board, but knows the financial parameters he is working within. They are far more restricted today, for a number of reasons, than they were when Dave Jones, Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer were managers.

Dalman flew to France to conduct negotiations with Lorient when Bruno Manga was brought in. Manga's a class act, but not the type of expensive luxury Cardiff would dream of going after these days.


When he signed under Solskjaer, the Bluebirds had Matt Connolly, Ben Turner and Sean Morrison on the books and could only play two of them at centre-back.

The chairman is based in London, but if necessary comes down the M4 to Cardiff to finalise deals.






So just what is Tan's involvement?


As with anything else at Cardiff City FC, Tan's word is final. As a member of the transfer committee, he is in regular contact with Choo and Dalman, whether by phone or video link.

He particularly wants the last say on any finances and is thought to prefer a loan deal for a new striker, rather than spending big money again.

Tan feels he has already had his fingers burned in that respect. Cornelius, Adam Le Fondre, Federico Macheda and Etien Velikonja each failed to cut the mustard in the Welsh capital.

The time difference between the UK and Malaysia complicates matter, because Tan is seven hours ahead in Kuala Lumpur.

That means that if Dalman is negotiating with a player at 8pm this evening, it will be 3am Thursday morning for Tan.

But on issues as important as this, with only a limited window left in which to sign anyone, Tan is ready to take a call and either give the green light, or say no.

Alternatively, he puts down the financial boundaries and Dalman and Choo work within them.

Does Paul Trollope meet new signings?




NO Not initially. The negotiations are done by Dalman and Choo, but with the backing of Trollope.

He is the one, of course, who needs to work day in, day out with any new signings and must be happy any incomings suit the style of play he has implemented.

But some matters are beyond Trollope's control. If Cardiff want to cash in on players, then the decision will be made to do so at Board level.

By the same token, Trollope didn't know if he would be able to reinvest the £5m raised for skipper David Marshall by using it for new players.





Cardiff City manager Paul Trollope

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Whilst I was as thrilled as all other welsh fans this summer, part of me winced each time wales won because that meant Trollop would be absent from the city for a while longer.

I do not know what part he had in the Gounongbe signing or the decision to give Zahore a contract but these have proven to be disastrous.

What we have seen so far is evidence they are not suited to lower league football.

All efforts should have been made pre season to source a goalscoring centre forward. Whilst Trollop was in France it seemingly was left to a transfer committee, people who have never kicked a football, to determine the best players for the club.

If the transfer committee had any say in the aforesaid 2 signings then they should disband the committee now, and leave it to the manager and Lawrence to deal with the playing side of the club.

Whilst I was as thrilled as all other welsh fans this summer, part of me winced each time wales won because that meant Trollop would be absent from the city for a while longer.

I do not know what part he had in the Gounongbe signing or the decision to give Zahore a contract but these have proven to be disastrous.

What we have seen so far is evidence they are not suited to lower league football.

All efforts should have been made pre season to source a goalscoring centre forward. Whilst Trollop was in France it seemingly was left to a transfer committee, people who have never kicked a football, to determine the best players for the club.

If the transfer committee had any say in the aforesaid 2 signings then they should disband the committee now, and leave it to the manager and Lawrence to deal with the playing side of the club.

Danny, I was told Trollope had no part in that deal, that was done by the above three, apparently for the future of Cardiff City

Whilst I was as thrilled as all other welsh fans this summer, part of me winced each time wales won because that meant Trollop would be absent from the city for a while longer.

I do not know what part he had in the Gounongbe signing or the decision to give Zahore a contract but these have proven to be disastrous.

What we have seen so far is evidence they are not suited to lower league football.

All efforts should have been made pre season to source a goalscoring centre forward. Whilst Trollop was in France it seemingly was left to a transfer committee, people who have never kicked a football, to determine the best players for the club.

If the transfer committee had any say in the aforesaid 2 signings then they should disband the committee now, and leave it to the manager and Lawrence to deal with the playing side of the club.

Danny, I was told Trollope had no part in that deal, that was done by the above three, apparently for the future of Cardiff City

Interesting read. Where do the role of scouts come into this - assume that they put the list of players in front of Choo initially based on attributes and suitability to this league?

Whilst I was as thrilled as all other welsh fans this summer, part of me winced each time wales won because that meant Trollop would be absent from the city for a while longer.

I do not know what part he had in the Gounongbe signing or the decision to give Zahore a contract but these have proven to be disastrous.

What we have seen so far is evidence they are not suited to lower league football.

All efforts should have been made pre season to source a goalscoring centre forward. Whilst Trollop was in France it seemingly was left to a transfer committee, people who have never kicked a football, to determine the best players for the club.

If the transfer committee had any say in the aforesaid 2 signings then they should disband the committee now, and leave it to the manager and Lawrence to deal with the playing side of the club.

Danny, I was told Trollope had no part in that deal, that was done by the above three, apparently for the future of Cardiff City

Interesting read. Where do the role of scouts come into this - assume that they put the list of players in front of Choo initially based on attributes and suitability to this league?

Choo/Dalman find out how much etc then they decide if it should be passed on to Trollope (depending on price etc).

What about the negotiating?


It is at this point, having been given names, numbers and a meeting place, that chairman Dalman becomes actively involved.

He is a smooth negotiator and will try to persuade Cardiff's preferred targets to come on board, but knows the financial parameters he is working within. They are far more restricted today, for a number of reasons, than they were when Dave Jones, Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer were managers.

Dalman flew to France to conduct negotiations with Lorient when Bruno Manga was brought in. Manga's a class act, but not the type of expensive luxury Cardiff would dream of going after these days.


When he signed under Solskjaer, the Bluebirds had Matt Connolly, Ben Turner and Sean Morrison on the books and could only play two of them at centre-back.

The chairman is based in London, but if necessary comes down the M4 to Cardiff to finalise deals.






So just what is Tan's involvement?


As with anything else at Cardiff City FC, Tan's word is final. As a member of the transfer committee, he is in regular contact with Choo and Dalman, whether by phone or video link.

He particularly wants the last say on any finances and is thought to prefer a loan deal for a new striker, rather than spending big money again.

Tan feels he has already had his fingers burned in that respect. Cornelius, Adam Le Fondre, Federico Macheda and Etien Velikonja each failed to cut the mustard in the Welsh capital.

The time difference between the UK and Malaysia complicates matter, because Tan is seven hours ahead in Kuala Lumpur.

That means that if Dalman is negotiating with a player at 8pm this evening, it will be 3am Thursday morning for Tan.

But on issues as important as this, with only a limited window left in which to sign anyone, Tan is ready to take a call and either give the green light, or say no.

Alternatively, he puts down the financial boundaries and Dalman and Choo work within them.

Oh how my heart sinks

Who is asking and who is answering these questions?

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

Thats how i see it mate, others blame managers,players,the buck stops with the owner Tan and he has final decision as he always has

this must be there as a joke,we all know who decides who we buy or in this case obtain for free, the club is run by idiots,borley was saying yesterday that dalman is on holiday so hardly gna negotiate anything from the beach is he #shambles

I don't think anybody opposes the 'European' model, except we are missing a link, the guy who can identify talent!!!!!

I don't think anybody opposes the 'European' model, except we are missing a link, the guy who can identify talent!!!!!

I read this a while back, it's a fantastic read. Just goes to show what can be achieved with the right setup and football people in charge.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ague-final

I don't think anybody opposes the 'European' model, except we are missing a link, the guy who can identify talent!!!!!

I read this a while back, it's a fantastic read. Just goes to show what can be achieved with the right setup and football people in charge.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ague-final

Yes, that Monchi is highly sought after and used to/or still does? make Sevilla a massive profit from his and team's work. How the hell Tan want to follow this without having anything resembling a scouting team, or a one man culpable for talent scouting.

Nobody knows who scouts the players. If anything, it looks like the club stick to agents they trust rather doing the hardwork.

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

If you read the article it says: 'Trollope is asked for his advice - if he doesn't want someone, Cardiff strike the individual from the list'

Not sure where you got your -Trollope has no say in what players are brought in - from!

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

If you read the article it says: 'Trollope is asked for his advice - if he doesn't want someone, Cardiff strike the individual from the list'

Not sure where you got your -Trollope has no say in what players are brought in - from!

Yes Trollope is asked for advice but if Tan has a list full of players that Trollope doesn't want how many times can he say no?

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

If you read the article it says: 'Trollope is asked for his advice - if he doesn't want someone, Cardiff strike the individual from the list'

Not sure where you got your -Trollope has no say in what players are brought in - from!

Yes Trollope is asked for advice but if Tan has a list full of players that Trollope doesn't want how many times can he say no?

Well who really knows what goes on?
Us fans know very little and as you can read on here it's all surmise, guess work and bullshit!

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

If you read the article it says: 'Trollope is asked for his advice - if he doesn't want someone, Cardiff strike the individual from the list'

Not sure where you got your -Trollope has no say in what players are brought in - from!

Yes Trollope is asked for advice but if Tan has a list full of players that Trollope doesn't want how many times can he say no?

Well who really knows what goes on?
Us fans know very little and as you can read on here it's all surmise, guess work and bullshit!

And that's just Rydogsccfc, Paul!

(Apparently, I haven't got a sense of humour! )

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

If you read the article it says: 'Trollope is asked for his advice - if he doesn't want someone, Cardiff strike the individual from the list'

Not sure where you got your -Trollope has no say in what players are brought in - from!

Yes Trollope is asked for advice but if Tan has a list full of players that Trollope doesn't want how many times can he say no?

Well who really knows what goes on?
Us fans know very little and as you can read on here it's all surmise, guess work and bullshit!

And that's just Rydogsccfc, Paul!

(Apparently, I haven't got a sense of humour! )

Man, he's full of it!!
I don't think there can be one poster on here that would ever take him serious mate, bless him.

So in other words Trollope has no say in what players are brought in or sold, It seems our rise and fall really will be all Tan's doing.

If you read the article it says: 'Trollope is asked for his advice - if he doesn't want someone, Cardiff strike the individual from the list'

Not sure where you got your -Trollope has no say in what players are brought in - from!

Yes Trollope is asked for advice but if Tan has a list full of players that Trollope doesn't want how many times can he say no?

Well who really knows what goes on?
Us fans know very little and as you can read on here it's all surmise, guess work and bullshit!

And that's just Rydogsccfc, Paul!

(Apparently, I haven't got a sense of humour! )

Man, he's full of it!!
I don't think there can be one poster on here that would ever take him serious mate, bless him.

I've tried to tell him but he thinks it's just me!