Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:33 am
Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:45 am
Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:50 am
Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:57 am
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
I thought so, Annis. Sort of takes away some of the excuses currently being used by the club regarding 'wasted' transfer monies, if this is anywhere near correct
It also raises the question of what's happened to the Parachute Payments and points towards that being used to pay off our accumulated debt of recent years rather than it coming out of Vincent Tan's personal wealth
Either way, I'm happy the debt is being paid off but it might just confirm a few things many on here (including you) have been saying!![]()
Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:29 am
Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:33 am
Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:36 am
troobloo3339 wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
takes no account of signing on fees
Or wages differentials
Just take the swap of odemwingie and kenwyne Jones he was on £45 k a week but I bet odemwingie wasn't
As they say you can make figures look anything to suit your agenda etc
The only way to be factual is the yearly accounts .profit and loss etc
Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:39 am
wez1927 wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
takes no account of signing on fees
Or wages differentials
Just take the swap of odemwingie and kenwyne Jones he was on £45 k a week but I bet odemwingie wasn't
As they say you can make figures look anything to suit your agenda etc
The only way to be factual is the yearly accounts .profit and loss etc
The only one we got real good money for is medal but we took a 2 million loss on him ,4 million loss on acorn ,loss on caulker ? what about all the contracts paid up ? does that figure include mangers contracts ? would be good to see the break down
Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:56 am
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
I thought so, Annis. Sort of takes away some of the excuses currently being used by the club regarding 'wasted' transfer monies, if this is anywhere near correct
It also raises the question of what's happened to the Parachute Payments and points towards that being used to pay off our accumulated debt of recent years rather than it coming out of Vincent Tan's personal wealth
Either way, I'm happy the debt is being paid off but it might just confirm a few things many on here (including you) have been saying!![]()
Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:36 pm
Nemo wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
I thought so, Annis. Sort of takes away some of the excuses currently being used by the club regarding 'wasted' transfer monies, if this is anywhere near correct
It also raises the question of what's happened to the Parachute Payments and points towards that being used to pay off our accumulated debt of recent years rather than it coming out of Vincent Tan's personal wealth
Either way, I'm happy the debt is being paid off but it might just confirm a few things many on here (including you) have been saying!![]()
I can't believe that people still don't understand what has happened to the parachute money. It has been used to pay our enormous wage bill. How else do you think we have been able to pay our players?. Income from gates is about £6 million a year at most. There is very little from other sources.We came down from the prem with a huge squad and a wage bill of over £50 million in the previous year. We still have a large squad with players on big wages. Even with the benefit of parachute money and cost cutting Tan has had to put in more to meet costs. To suggest he is somehow siphoning off the parachute money is absurd.
Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:57 pm
Reza wrote:Nemo wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
I thought so, Annis. Sort of takes away some of the excuses currently being used by the club regarding 'wasted' transfer monies, if this is anywhere near correct
It also raises the question of what's happened to the Parachute Payments and points towards that being used to pay off our accumulated debt of recent years rather than it coming out of Vincent Tan's personal wealth
Either way, I'm happy the debt is being paid off but it might just confirm a few things many on here (including you) have been saying!![]()
I can't believe that people still don't understand what has happened to the parachute money. It has been used to pay our enormous wage bill. How else do you think we have been able to pay our players?. Income from gates is about £6 million a year at most. There is very little from other sources.We came down from the prem with a huge squad and a wage bill of over £50 million in the previous year. We still have a large squad with players on big wages. Even with the benefit of parachute money and cost cutting Tan has had to put in more to meet costs. To suggest he is somehow siphoning off the parachute money is absurd.
no its not obsurd at all, the money was there to help teams when they are relegated,other than ole spending a few million where else has it gone,other than manga for 5m who else did he really spend big money on? the likes of kenwyn and fabio among others have been sold on who was on big wages, we also need to get rid of alfie but theres no way we are in such huge amounts of debt that we cant afford to buy anyone and are haggling over 500k in some cases, clubs a fukin shambles and while tans in charge thats as good as it will get
Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:22 pm
Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:25 pm
wtf wrote:What happened to the op. This morning there was a difference of 20 million now it's only 4 million. Also a transfer fee of 2.5 million for Emyr huws. I would take all those figures with a pinch of salt.
Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:56 pm
wtf wrote:What happened to the op. This morning there was a difference of 20 million now it's only 4 million. Also a transfer fee of 2.5 million for Emyr huws. I would take all those figures with a pinch of salt.
Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:01 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:wtf wrote:What happened to the op. This morning there was a difference of 20 million now it's only 4 million. Also a transfer fee of 2.5 million for Emyr huws. I would take all those figures with a pinch of salt.
Haha they'll be believing what's printed in the sun next on here![]()
Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:29 pm
Reza wrote:Nemo wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
I thought so, Annis. Sort of takes away some of the excuses currently being used by the club regarding 'wasted' transfer monies, if this is anywhere near correct
It also raises the question of what's happened to the Parachute Payments and points towards that being used to pay off our accumulated debt of recent years rather than it coming out of Vincent Tan's personal wealth
Either way, I'm happy the debt is being paid off but it might just confirm a few things many on here (including you) have been saying!![]()
I can't believe that people still don't understand what has happened to the parachute money. It has been used to pay our enormous wage bill. How else do you think we have been able to pay our players?. Income from gates is about £6 million a year at most. There is very little from other sources.We came down from the prem with a huge squad and a wage bill of over £50 million in the previous year. We still have a large squad with players on big wages. Even with the benefit of parachute money and cost cutting Tan has had to put in more to meet costs. To suggest he is somehow siphoning off the parachute money is absurd.
no its not obsurd at all, the money was there to help teams when they are relegated,other than ole spending a few million where else has it gone,other than manga for 5m who else did he really spend big money on? the likes of kenwyn and fabio among others have been sold on who was on big wages, we also need to get rid of alfie but theres no way we are in such huge amounts of debt that we cant afford to buy anyone and are haggling over 500k in some cases, clubs a fukin shambles and while tans in charge thats as good as it will get
Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:53 pm
Nemo wrote:Reza wrote:Nemo wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
I thought so, Annis. Sort of takes away some of the excuses currently being used by the club regarding 'wasted' transfer monies, if this is anywhere near correct
It also raises the question of what's happened to the Parachute Payments and points towards that being used to pay off our accumulated debt of recent years rather than it coming out of Vincent Tan's personal wealth
Either way, I'm happy the debt is being paid off but it might just confirm a few things many on here (including you) have been saying!![]()
I can't believe that people still don't understand what has happened to the parachute money. It has been used to pay our enormous wage bill. How else do you think we have been able to pay our players?. Income from gates is about £6 million a year at most. There is very little from other sources.We came down from the prem with a huge squad and a wage bill of over £50 million in the previous year. We still have a large squad with players on big wages. Even with the benefit of parachute money and cost cutting Tan has had to put in more to meet costs. To suggest he is somehow siphoning off the parachute money is absurd.
no its not obsurd at all, the money was there to help teams when they are relegated,other than ole spending a few million where else has it gone,other than manga for 5m who else did he really spend big money on? the likes of kenwyn and fabio among others have been sold on who was on big wages, we also need to get rid of alfie but theres no way we are in such huge amounts of debt that we cant afford to buy anyone and are haggling over 500k in some cases, clubs a fukin shambles and while tans in charge thats as good as it will get
I'll say it again very slowly. The parachute money has gone to pay wages. The accounts for 2014-15 (first season after relegation) are the latest available. They show total income for the club of about £40 mill. Of that £23 million came from parachute payments. Players wages (that is excluding managerial and other staff) came to £30 mill. Tan wrote off £13 million in debt that year and converted another £3million of debt to equity. Despite that we still breached the FFP rules and ended up under a transfer embargo.Please explain to me where in those figures there is scope for Tan to siphon money off or exactly how we would have payed the players without using the parachute payments..Wages have no doubt reduced considerably since but so has income from parachute payments: this season they are only £9 million compares with £23 mill on 2014-15. Debt is not really the issue. Day to day running costs, especially wages, are.
Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:38 pm
Nemo wrote:Reza wrote:Nemo wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Here's a 'link' to our spending over the last 5 seasons
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/cardiff-city/english-football-teams/cardiff-city-transfers
Transfers IN: £61,250,000
Transfers OUT: £57,150,000
Net Figure: -£4,100,00
Not sure how reliable these figures are but they make fascinating reading, if the apparently small differential between monies in and out are correct
Cheers Chris, Very interesting
I thought so, Annis. Sort of takes away some of the excuses currently being used by the club regarding 'wasted' transfer monies, if this is anywhere near correct
It also raises the question of what's happened to the Parachute Payments and points towards that being used to pay off our accumulated debt of recent years rather than it coming out of Vincent Tan's personal wealth
Either way, I'm happy the debt is being paid off but it might just confirm a few things many on here (including you) have been saying!![]()
I can't believe that people still don't understand what has happened to the parachute money. It has been used to pay our enormous wage bill. How else do you think we have been able to pay our players?. Income from gates is about £6 million a year at most. There is very little from other sources.We came down from the prem with a huge squad and a wage bill of over £50 million in the previous year. We still have a large squad with players on big wages. Even with the benefit of parachute money and cost cutting Tan has had to put in more to meet costs. To suggest he is somehow siphoning off the parachute money is absurd.
no its not obsurd at all, the money was there to help teams when they are relegated,other than ole spending a few million where else has it gone,other than manga for 5m who else did he really spend big money on? the likes of kenwyn and fabio among others have been sold on who was on big wages, we also need to get rid of alfie but theres no way we are in such huge amounts of debt that we cant afford to buy anyone and are haggling over 500k in some cases, clubs a fukin shambles and while tans in charge thats as good as it will get
I'll say it again very slowly. The parachute money has gone to pay wages. The accounts for 2014-15 (first season after relegation) are the latest available. They show total income for the club of about £40 mill. Of that £23 million came from parachute payments. Players wages (that is excluding managerial and other staff) came to £30 mill. Tan wrote off £13 million in debt that year and converted another £3million of debt to equity. Despite that we still breached the FFP rules and ended up under a transfer embargo.Please explain to me where in those figures there is scope for Tan to siphon money off or exactly how we would have payed the players without using the parachute payments..Wages have no doubt reduced considerably since but so has income from parachute payments: this season they are only £9 million compares with £23 mill on 2014-15. Debt is not really the issue. Day to day running costs, especially wages, are.